Calling all Hana DNA30 clone owners

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Just starting to notice a really annoying issue with mine. I have to click the fire button sometimes 2 3 or even 4 times before it turns on ready to fire!!. Anyone else have this happen?

EDIT: I noticed something else interesting while rewicking my Russian 91% with my current build. Originally it measured in at 1.3 ohms but today it was at 1.4-1.5 after first tank refill...Normal right ... well they talked about the .2 that the DNA30 clone can be "off".....Well now tonight after rewicking I noticed it went to 1.4-1.5 ohms when I put it back together then got check atomizer well my Russian 91% center pin has to be screwed out in order for it to make contact and it must have went just barley touching so I screwed the pin back out and boom back down to 1.2 ohm reading instantly. So it seems like this DNA30 that seems to be off on measurement seems to be directly correlated with the center pin contact at least that's what it seems to me but I'm no expert.

Not trying to sound harsh but there are at least two threads where people are giving their experience with both issues you are mentioning. For me, mine sometimes requires a second click after resting, sometimes not. I haven't noticed mine suddenly lighting up but then I only got it last night and it is in my pocket when not in use so far.
 

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If you like to go ahead and spend an extra $180 to avoid having to occasionally click the fire button twice instead of once, be my guest. But that would be what my grandfather would call "penny wise, pound foolish."

What would your grandfather have said about buying a Chinese fake over an original American product?
 

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He would have been proud that I made an excellent economic decision.

Yeah right. Old timers understood the economics of this, and they did not have prior globalization to blame for the poor lot of the American worker today.
Let's not kid ourselves here, everyone who buys a clone, myself included, is engaging in unethical behavior. We all can justify it to ourselves in different ways but at the end of the day we are supporting IP theft by doing it.
 

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Yeah right. Old timers understood the economics of this, and they did not have prior globalization to blame for the poor lot of the American worker today.
Let's not kid ourselves here, everyone who buys a clone, myself included, is engaging in unethical behavior. We all can justify it to ourselves in different ways but at the end of the day we are supporting IP theft by doing it.

It's nice to know you think you'd know what my grandfather might have thought about a particular purchase than I do.

Again with the "clone buyers are unethical" nonsense.

There are very longstanding, solid intellectual arguments against the idea of "intellectual property." Look them up. And stop worrying about what others may or may not buy.
 

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He would have been proud that I made an excellent economic decision.

My great grandfather was half Chinese and was a multi-millionaire thanks to the import game. According to my mother he was also the cheapest bastid that walked the face of the earth and was known to create scenes at restaurants if he was over charged 2 cents.

I think he would have been totally ok with it, at least until he found out it was half broken after only 24hrs. .
 

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There are very longstanding, solid intellectual arguments against the idea of "intellectual property." Look them up. And stop worrying about what others may or may not buy.

Take your own advice, the only reason I replied at all is because YOU admonished someone else for what he chose to buy.
 

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What would your grandfather have said about buying a Chinese fake over an original American product?


What original American product? The last time I checked the modern ecig was invented in CHINA, so it's the American product that is the clone.

And I'm pretty sure that Hana Modz didn't invent the box mod either. Nor the VV mod or VW mod. They sure didn't invent the Evolv chip that's powering their devices either. I'll be willing to bet that they didn't manufacture the buttons, plastic battery box, wires, or the little screen, those are all over the counter parts that they bought from someone else.

So.... what exactly did Hana Modz invent?




The LOGO.


And that's all. And if you don't believe that, take a good look at the lawsuit, it's a TRADEMARK lawsuit for using the logo. Take the logo off and the mod is 100% legal because nothing else about the authentic Hana Modz V3 mod was invented by or has intellectual property rights owned by Hana Modz The only thing they manufacture is the box. Everything else is just a collection of 3rd party parts that they assemble.
 
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What original American product? The last time I checked the modern ecig was invented in CHINA, so it's the American product that is the clone.

And I'm pretty sure that Hana Modz didn't invent the box mod either. Nor the VV mod or VW mod. They sure didn't invent the Evolv chip that's powering their devices either. I'll be willing to bet that they didn't manufacture the buttons, plastic battery box, wires, or the little screen, those are all over the counter parts that they bought from someone else.

So.... what exactly did Hana Modz invent?




The LOGO.


And that's all. And if you don't believe that, take a good look at the lawsuit, it's a TRADEMARK lawsuit for using the logo. Take the logo off and the mod is 100% legal because nothing else about the authentic Hana Modz V3 mod was invented by or has intellectual property rights owned by Hana Modz The only thing they manufacture is the box. Everything else is just a collection of 3rd party parts that they assemble.

This is willful ignorance. You know as well as everyone else in this forum and the entire community that these are direct copies of Hana boxes, directly taking the Hana design as exactly as possible and producing it for sale at a price that undercuts the originals, while piggybacking on the awareness and popularity of the originals to ensure sales success. The Chinese producers make this more than clear in their marketing copy which is free to use the Hana trademark.

The status of the lawsuit proves nothing. The suit is a trademark lawsuit because it's cut and dried, therefore the easiest to pursue, most likely to succeed, and the one a lawyer is most likely to take on contingency (or the one most likely to have legal costs recoupable from). It would be substantially more difficult to claim trade dress, however everyone can see that the clones violate the spirit of trade dress explicitly.

That is why they are so popular.

This is exactly the course and effect of counterfeiting or copying another product wholly. We all rationalize it one way or another, but it's dishonest to pretend the conflict doesn't exist.
 

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Just starting to notice a really annoying issue with mine. I have to click the fire button sometimes 2 3 or even 4 times before it turns on ready to fire!!. Anyone else have this happen?

EDIT: I noticed something else interesting while rewicking my Russian 91% with my current build. Originally it measured in at 1.3 ohms but today it was at 1.4-1.5 after first tank refill...Normal right ... well they talked about the .2 that the DNA30 clone can be "off".....Well now tonight after rewicking I noticed it went to 1.4-1.5 ohms when I put it back together then got check atomizer well my Russian 91% center pin has to be screwed out in order for it to make contact and it must have went just barley touching so I screwed the pin back out and boom back down to 1.2 ohm reading instantly. So it seems like this DNA30 that seems to be off on measurement seems to be directly correlated with the center pin contact at least that's what it seems to me but I'm no expert.

I have the same 2 problems with mine, It reads 2 ohms more and I have ti click it twice to work.


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So is the wheel and everyone that makes a Wheel so what !!

The point is that its legal there is nothing original in the Hana Modz its all copies of others work. So is the clone. Don't be mad at china because they can make a Mod ever bit as good, maybe not the chip but even that's close, as a Hana Modz at a third of the price.

Even the trademark, Hana does not have a Trademark is was rejected. That right the trademark Hana applied for in March was sent back mostly for legal wording. At this point there is a question as to if the Hana logo is public domain. Not a lawyer so cant say either way.
 

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So is the wheel and everyone that makes a Wheel so what !!

The point is that its legal there is nothing original in the Hana Modz its all copies of others work. So is the clone. Don't be mad at china because they can make a Mod ever bit as good, maybe not the chip but even that's close, as a Hana Modz at a third of the price.

Even the trademark, Hana does not have a Trademark is was rejected. That right the trademark Hana applied for in March was sent back mostly for legal wording. At this point there is a question as to if the Hana logo is public domain. Not a lawyer so cant say either way.

If that's the case then illvapes might get off a little easier and possibly everyone learned a valuable lesson? Don't copy logos,trademarks,company symbols,etc.



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So is the wheel and everyone that makes a Wheel so what !!

The point is that its legal there is nothing original in the Hana Modz its all copies of others work. So is the clone. Don't be mad at china because they can make a Mod ever bit as good, maybe not the chip but even that's close, as a Hana Modz at a third of the price.

Even the trademark, Hana does not have a Trademark is was rejected. That right the trademark Hana applied for in March was sent back mostly for legal wording. At this point there is a question as to if the Hana logo is public domain. Not a lawyer so cant say either way.

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Cool thank for the info retird. There is a reason they call it hearsay. :unsure: The second link sure looks like an approved trademark too me, dated today. With a second one pending if am reading this right. Good for Hana no doubt they make a very nice mod. China does need to stay away from trademark infringement no if and or butts. Maybe Hana will step up there game some that will be good for all.
 
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