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kashif

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The main difference between a pod mod and a regulated power mod is with the regulated power mod you can adjust the power output to whatever the tank/coil requires or what type of vaping experience you individually require for satisfaction. You can't do that with a pod mod to the best of my knowledge.

The regulated power mod with a MTL tank will provide you with more options to try that a pod mod will not.

Your mission is to find the right e-liquid (either nic base or nic salts; at the right nic concentration) to satisfy your individual needs.

I've not used nic salt, so I'm not very familiar with it. To my understanding, pod mods generally use nic salts because it has been formulated to be smoother (less throat hit or harshness) but utilize higher nic levels to get more nic per hit.

I've read that you can use either nic salts or nic free base in a MTL mod tank like the Zlide, Zenith, or Nautilus. I think you may need to do a trial of both to see which will work out best for you. Do your research on both forms of nic.



I fully understand that this can be confusing. Which nic to use? Which type of gear setup will work best for you? Too many options seem at first confusing, but that can be a good thing. It just means there exists the right combination of e-liquid and gear specifically for you...you just need to research and experience it to find it. Sorry your journey has been more difficult for you than to others.


Thanks a lot for the reply. Looks like others members who were replying are now frustrated with my silly questions so thank you for answering.

Yes I know about nic salts and freebase juice now. I never used nic salts because of too much nicotine. I was using freebase juice in my pod device 6 mg of juice was not providing me nicotine but I see mostly vapors vape 6 mg to 3 mg in their proper mod kits and I am light smoker. 8 cigs a day only. I suspect its the pod device which is not heating juice enough.

But with the mod kit I feel its very harsh to my throat on temperatures like 50 or above but that is the recommended temperature for the stock head inside tank. But I am vaping it at 30 watts now which is well below the recommended wattage so I am sure the coil is under performing. I am actually looking for a 0.5 0r 0.7 coil head and was about to get the GT 0.5 head but I read about the possibility of severe health risk with ceramic coils so I want to avoid such coils.

Are there any other coils which are compatible with skrr S tank? I tried to google but couldn't find any thread on it. Coil by some other brand which is compatible with skrr s.

Problem with the Nautilus tank is that its very very small. Almost like a pod device capacity. I am liking the skrr s tank because it can carry 8 mg of juice which is a huge plus. So that's why want to use another head but something which is not ceramic. Please advise or do you suggest me to open a new thread about it?
 

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@kashif, that information on ceramic coils is from way back. I cannot remember the manufacturer in question, but the ceramic in their ceramic coils crumbled into powder. And the health risks were greatly exaggerated.

I've been using GT CCell 0.5 ohm coils for over a year without any issues whatsoever, apart from the occasional badly wicking coil now and again.
 
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@kashif, that information on ceramic coils is from way back. I cannot remember the manufacturer in question, but the ceramic in their ceramic coils crumbled into powder. And the health risks were greatly exaggerated.

I've been using GT CCell 0.5 ohm coils for over a year without any issues whatsoever, apart from the occasional badly wicking coil now and again.

Yes. I read mix reviews about it. But I am thinking to not go near to something which is doubtful. Are there any other coils than GT or QF that are compatible with skrr?
 

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There's no need to doubt, CCell do not suffer from this issue.

To get a risk from silicosis, the particle size has to be so small that it is able to stay suspended in air and you have to have heavy exposure.

A damp coil will mitigate any risk, by preventing any particles from being released.

I put as much value in Uwell's pseudo study, as the study that chain vaped C4E type Clearomisers and said amongst other things that Lead was present in the vapour produced.
 

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Thanks a lot for the reply. Looks like others members who were replying are now frustrated with my silly questions so thank you for answering.

Yes I know about nic salts and freebase juice now. I never used nic salts because of too much nicotine. I was using freebase juice in my pod device 6 mg of juice was not providing me nicotine but I see mostly vapors vape 6 mg to 3 mg in their proper mod kits and I am light smoker. 8 cigs a day only. I suspect its the pod device which is not heating juice enough.

But with the mod kit I feel its very harsh to my throat on temperatures like 50 or above but that is the recommended temperature for the stock head inside tank. But I am vaping it at 30 watts now which is well below the recommended wattage so I am sure the coil is under performing. I am actually looking for a 0.5 0r 0.7 coil head and was about to get the GT 0.5 head but I read about the possibility of severe health risk with ceramic coils so I want to avoid such coils.

Are there any other coils which are compatible with skrr S tank? I tried to google but couldn't find any thread on it. Coil by some other brand which is compatible with skrr s.

Problem with the Nautilus tank is that its very very small. Almost like a pod device capacity. I am liking the skrr s tank because it can carry 8 mg of juice which is a huge plus. So that's why want to use another head but something which is not ceramic. Please advise or do you suggest me to open a new thread about it?

Sorry you feel that way, for my part I'm usually very busy and only have a finite amount of time to participate in the site/forum. Very often I am remote locations with very little to no cell service.

I'm not trying to talk you into a Mtl delivery device, just from what you say & the problems you're having it seems like a logical thing to at least try.

To find what works best for each person usually there is some experimentation needed. This includes trying a few to dozens of different delivery devices/tanks.

The zenith or nautilus or just about any Mtl tank will use/consume much less e liquid than any Dtl tank, so the ml capacity between the two types isn't always a factor in how often you refill.
Many Mtl tanks have a 4-5ml capacity in standard/full size, the mini size or TPD hold up to 2ml.

They can provide very nice cloudz, the throat hit is variable, the vapor temp can range from cool to hot, they usually excel in producing flavor.
All depending on your nic mg/ml, Pg/Vg ratio, power range used, airflow and which coil head you chose.

You can use any 'strength nic mg/ml ' eliquid you chose from 0 - as strong as you can find.

The tank you're currently using is designed for Dtl, there really isn't a way to restrict airflow turn down power and force it to be even a semi decent Mtl tank.

You can change the way you vape to match the tank you're using, or try a different 'tank' that matches the way you prefer to vape.

I agree with the others about the 'ceramic', saturated materials don't give off dust / fine particles.
Doesn't even make any common sense, wet dust makes mud, wet powder makes paste.
 
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There's no need to doubt, CCell do not suffer from this issue.

To get a risk from silicosis, the particle size has to be so small that it is able to stay suspended in air and you have to have heavy exposure.

A damp coil will mitigate any risk, by preventing any particles from being released.

I put as much value in Uwell's pseudo study, as the study that chain vaped C4E type Clearomisers and said amongst other things that Lead was present in the vapour produced.

Thanks. Yes I read two school of thoughts and I believe mostly in those who say that ceramic coils are safe to use but one side of me saying that when there is doubt there is no doubt. If it has even 0.1 percent chance of any hazard then I must stay away from it as vaping is something life long. Maybe after 10 years or more some side effects of ceramic coils show up. Want to avoid ceramic for that tiny bit of fear.

Sorry you feel that way, for my part I'm usually very busy and only have a finite amount of time to participate in the site/forum. Very often I am remote locations with very little to no cell service.

I'm not trying to talk you into a Mtl delivery device, just from what you say & the problems you're having it seems like a logical thing to at least try.

To find what works best for each person usually there is some experimentation needed. This includes trying a few to dozens of different delivery devices/tanks.

The zenith or nautilus or just about any Mtl tank will use/consume much less e liquid than any Dtl tank, so the ml capacity between the two types isn't always a factor in how often you refill.
Many Mtl tanks have a 4-5ml capacity in standard/full size, the mini size or TPD hold up to 2ml.

They can provide very nice cloudz, the throat hit is variable, the vapor temp can range from cool to hot, they usually excel in producing flavor.
All depending on your nic mg/ml, Pg/Vg ratio, power range used, airflow and which coil head you chose.

You can use any 'strength nic mg/ml ' eliquid you chose from 0 - as strong as you can find.

The tank you're currently using is designed for Dtl, there really isn't a way to restrict airflow turn down power and force it to be even a semi decent Mtl tank.

You can change the way you vape to match the tank you're using, or try a different 'tank' that matches the way you prefer to vape.

I agree with the others about the 'ceramic', saturated materials don't give off dust / fine particles.
Doesn't even make any common sense, wet dust makes mud, wet power makes paste.

Oh no no. I was saying in fun way that other members maybe frustrated because of me because my questions are mostly very silly and repetitive. Lol. I appreciate your help always.

What I want is to try a high ohm coil head to the skrr tank and see how I feels. If it doesn't suit I can always install some other tank. I am actually now liking the more open air flow. Just need coil to not underperform and vape at a slightly cooler wattage.
 

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I am not allowed to start a new topic in new members forum so I posted the below message in tanks and coils section but I need your help on it so re posting that post here:

I am looking for 0.4-0.7 OHM coils for my Skrr S tank. The included QF coils are too harsh for me. I want to avoid the GT coils because of the ceramic hazard.

I did a search and find out that smok baby beast coils are compatible with Vaporesso NRG tanks. So I am wondering if they are compatible with Skrr S tank too? Both NRG and Skrr are compatible with GT coils so I am assuming that baby beast coils will fit in the Skrr S tank too if they can fit in NRG. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am interested in this particular coil:

Smok V8 Q2 (0.4 OHM or 0.6 OHM)

I am not a smok fan but I have no other option. Anyone of you vaped this coil or other baby beast coils? Are they good? Also if they are compatible with Skrr S. Please help.
 

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I think we've come full circle.
The harshness is most likely cause by using the 50/50 eliquid and the nic mg/ml.

Dtl tanks are most often used with high% Vg eliquids, like 70% Vg or more.
This is for smoothness and making big ole fat cloudz.

You can use any nic mg/ml you can stand, most folks usually cut their nic mg/ml in half when going from low power Mtl above ohm 'tanks' to mid / higher power sub ohm Dtl 'tanks'.

So going from your previous vaping setup to your vaperesso luxe using a Dtl sub ohm 'tank' while using the same Pg/Vg ratio and the same nic mg/ml it would be expected to increase throat hit and harshness.

Lower nic mg/ml and higher % Vg and more airflow= smoother less harsh vape without needing to underpower the coil head which results in lackluster performance/ vape experience.
 

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I am not allowed to start a new topic in new members forum so I posted the below message in tanks and coils section but I need your help on it so re posting that post here:

I am looking for 0.4-0.7 OHM coils for my Skrr S tank. The included QF coils are too harsh for me. I want to avoid the GT coils because of the ceramic hazard.

I did a search and find out that smok baby beast coils are compatible with Vaporesso NRG tanks. So I am wondering if they are compatible with Skrr S tank too? Both NRG and Skrr are compatible with GT coils so I am assuming that baby beast coils will fit in the Skrr S tank too if they can fit in NRG. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am interested in this particular coil:

Smok V8 Q2 (0.4 OHM or 0.6 OHM)

I am not a smok fan but I have no other option. Anyone of you vaped this coil or other baby beast coils? Are they good? Also if they are compatible with Skrr S. Please help.
I already posted this earlier in this thread.

GT Core Vape Coils » Vaporesso

GT CCELL(0.5Ω)
SS316
25-35W

The GT CCELL 0.5 ohm coil is the highest ohm coil that is compatible with the SSKR tank that Vaporasso makes. Recommended wattage range is 25-35 watts. Still a sub-ohm coil, but I think you may be able to vape this coil at 10 - 20 watts to give you more of a cooler vape and still get good flavor and vapor production. You will have to play around with your airflow on the tank to see what will work best for you. My guess, adjust it for a more restrictive flow to better mimic at MTL experience.
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SMOK Baby Beast tanks are sub-ohm tanks, and I'm not aware of any of their coils that are above 1.0 ohm. So you're going to be in the same situation with them as you are now. SMOK coils have a notorious reputation of not lasting as long as other brand coils.

I'm in total agreement with Top Water in his recommendations. You're going to need to use a dedicated MTL tank to get the vaping experience you appear to be seeking. You might get close using the above GT CCCELL 0.5 ohm and setting the wattage down to below recommended wattage range (< 25 watts) ... its worth trying. If it doesn't work out well, you're only out the price of a pack of coils.

On my Geekvape Cerberus tanks i have to adjust the wattage down to 16 - 20 watts (recommended over 40 watts). I get plenty of flavor and vapor production. Works for me because Geekvape doesn't make a coil over 0.3 ohm for this tank.
 
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There's no need to doubt, CCell do not suffer from this issue.

To get a risk from silicosis, the particle size has to be so small that it is able to stay suspended in air and you have to have heavy exposure.

A damp coil will mitigate any risk, by preventing any particles from being released.

I put as much value in Uwell's pseudo study, as the study that chain vaped C4E type Clearomisers and said amongst other things that Lead was present in the vapour produced.

Have you ever taken a CCell apart? If so you will know how easily the ceramic crumbles in your hands.

My earlier comment did not touch on any health hazards with using ceramic coils. I shared an experience which is difficult to debate. Someone reading my comment can take that information and use to it assess their own risks. The statement from Uwell on Silicosis maybe extreme – TBH, unless they have conducted long term health tests they cannot make that claim. But that is not to say their examples that display how easily these ceramic coils break into dust is not true.

A damp coil may prevent small partials from becoming airborne. But what happens when that coil becomes heated, and the fluid used to damp it turns into vapor? Are the partials small enough to be carried with that vapor? This is not my area of expertise so I cannot say with 100% certainty, but I will ask if others can.

Lead is a natural element – it is present in many things we consume. The question should not be if there is lead in ones vape, it should be how much lead is in ones vape.
 
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I do not have experience with the QF coils. I do have experience with the GT Core line, mostly with the Mesh and CCell. Due to their high surface area, both the Mesh and CCell give a very similar experience but do so at different power levels. The temperature of the vape is dictated by the user through adjusting the applied power. You want a hotter vape, you turn up the power, a cooler vape, turn down the power. And by turning down the power, vapor production suffers.

Within their respected and recommended power ranges both present a very similar temperature and vapor production. In fact, blindly it would be difficult to differentiate one coil from another strictly based on temperature alone. The CCell does have a more reduced airflow, so the draw is tighter.

The CCell also employs a much smaller range of adjustment of only 25 to 35 watts. As mentioned earlier, at 20 watts I felt the vape was anemic – but again this is my perception. The GT Mesh, which has a recommended range of 50 to 85 watts, at 35 watts the vape is quite cool but still plentiful and somewhat satisfactory. Not my preferred setting BUT if I had to choose between the GT Mesh at 35 watts or the CCell at 20, it would be the mesh hands down.

The Mesh will also giver a warmer vape should that be preferred by increasing the power output. Above 40 watts the CCell begins to get a little unruly where it may start to present a burnt taste. The Mesh is able to scale up to 85 watts quite nicely if one enjoys a warmer vape experience.
 

kashif

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I think we've come full circle.
The harshness is most likely cause by using the 50/50 eliquid and the nic mg/ml.

Dtl tanks are most often used with high% Vg eliquids, like 70% Vg or more.
This is for smoothness and making big ole fat cloudz.

You can use any nic mg/ml you can stand, most folks usually cut their nic mg/ml in half when going from low power Mtl above ohm 'tanks' to mid / higher power sub ohm Dtl 'tanks'.

So going from your previous vaping setup to your vaperesso luxe using a Dtl sub ohm 'tank' while using the same Pg/Vg ratio and the same nic mg/ml it would be expected to increase throat hit and harshness.

Lower nic mg/ml and higher % Vg and more airflow= smoother less harsh vape without needing to underpower the coil head which results in lackluster performance/ vape experience.

I already posted this earlier in this thread.

GT Core Vape Coils » Vaporesso

GT CCELL(0.5Ω)
SS316
25-35W

The GT CCELL 0.5 ohm coil is the highest ohm coil that is compatible with the SSKR tank that Vaporasso makes. Recommended wattage range is 25-35 watts. Still a sub-ohm coil, but I think you may be able to vape this coil at 10 - 20 watts to give you more of a cooler vape and still get good flavor and vapor production. You will have to play around with your airflow on the tank to see what will work best for you. My guess, adjust it for a more restrictive flow to better mimic at MTL experience.
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SMOK Baby Beast tanks are sub-ohm tanks, and I'm not aware of any of their coils that are above 1.0 ohm. So you're going to be in the same situation with them as you are now. SMOK coils have a notorious reputation of not lasting as long as other brand coils.

I'm in total agreement with Top Water in his recommendations. You're going to need to use a dedicated MTL tank to get the vaping experience you appear to be seeking. You might get close using the above GT CCCELL 0.5 ohm and setting the wattage down to below recommended wattage range (< 25 watts) ... its worth trying. If it doesn't work out well, you're only out the price of a pack of coils.

On my Geekvape Cerberus tanks i have to adjust the wattage down to 16 - 20 watts (recommended over 40 watts). I get plenty of flavor and vapor production. Works for me because Geekvape doesn't make a coil over 0.3 ohm for this tank.

Have you ever taken a CCell apart? If so you will know how easily the ceramic crumbles in your hands.

My earlier comment did not touch on any health hazards with using ceramic coils. I shared an experience which is difficult to debate. Someone reading my comment can take that information and use to it assess their own risks. The statement from Uwell on Silicosis maybe extreme – TBH, unless they have conducted long term health tests they cannot make that claim. But that is not to say their examples that display how easily these ceramic coils break into dust is not true.

A damp coil may prevent small partials from becoming airborne. But what happens when that coil becomes heated, and the fluid used to damp it turns into vapor? Are the partials small enough to be carried with that vapor? This is not my area of expertise so I cannot say with 100% certainty, but I will ask if others can.

Lead is a natural element – it is present in many things we consume. The question should not be if there is lead in ones vape, it should be how much lead is in ones vape.

I do not have experience with the QF coils. I do have experience with the GT Core line, mostly with the Mesh and CCell. Due to their high surface area, both the Mesh and CCell give a very similar experience but do so at different power levels. The temperature of the vape is dictated by the user through adjusting the applied power. You want a hotter vape, you turn up the power, a cooler vape, turn down the power. And by turning down the power, vapor production suffers.

Within their respected and recommended power ranges both present a very similar temperature and vapor production. In fact, blindly it would be difficult to differentiate one coil from another strictly based on temperature alone. The CCell does have a more reduced airflow, so the draw is tighter.

The CCell also employs a much smaller range of adjustment of only 25 to 35 watts. As mentioned earlier, at 20 watts I felt the vape was anemic – but again this is my perception. The GT Mesh, which has a recommended range of 50 to 85 watts, at 35 watts the vape is quite cool but still plentiful and somewhat satisfactory. Not my preferred setting BUT if I had to choose between the GT Mesh at 35 watts or the CCell at 20, it would be the mesh hands down.

The Mesh will also giver a warmer vape should that be preferred by increasing the power output. Above 40 watts the CCell begins to get a little unruly where it may start to present a burnt taste. The Mesh is able to scale up to 85 watts quite nicely if one enjoys a warmer vape experience.

Thanks a lot guys. Its a difficult world for MTL vapers. The problem with high ohm coils is that you need to use nic salts with them because at that wattage a freebase juice doesn't satisfy your nicotine intake. I was looking at Nautilus 2 tank and the 1.8 coil which comes with it is suitable for nic salts mainly. I don't understand why not there is a single coil which can provide both nicotine and flavour at lower watts. Nautilus comes with a 0.7 ohm coil as well and in one of the review the reviewer stated that he is a MTL vaper and he vapes MTL with the 0.7 coil at 20 watts and get good flavour. But I don't know really if 0.7 ohm is good for MTL. I am actually a bit disappointed that 90 percent of the focus is on DTL only. Anyone who is smoking and wants to switch to vaping will DEFINITELY need to have something similar to smoking but all I see is pod devices or tanks which requires nic salts and they underperform if you use freebase juice in them. My problem is that I hate sweet juice to death. I prefer tobacco flavour and not even one good tobacco flavour comes in salt based juices. All are only freebase.

If I switch to a MTL tank, is it ok to vape MTL on coils like 0.4 or 0.7 OHMS? Freebase juice will give good flavour and nic or do I strictly need salts if I am going to vape at low watts?
 

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Thanks a lot guys. Its a difficult world for MTL vapers. The problem with high ohm coils is that you need to use nic salts with them because at that wattage a freebase juice doesn't satisfy your nicotine intake. I was looking at Nautilus 2 tank and the 1.8 coil which comes with it is suitable for nic salts mainly. I don't understand why not there is a single coil which can provide both nicotine and flavour at lower watts. Nautilus comes with a 0.7 ohm coil as well and in one of the review the reviewer stated that he is a MTL vaper and he vapes MTL with the 0.7 coil at 20 watts and get good flavour. But I don't know really if 0.7 ohm is good for MTL. I am actually a bit disappointed that 90 percent of the focus is on DTL only. Anyone who is smoking and wants to switch to vaping will DEFINITELY need to have something similar to smoking but all I see is pod devices or tanks which requires nic salts and they underperform if you use freebase juice in them. My problem is that I hate sweet juice to death. I prefer tobacco flavour and not even one good tobacco flavour comes in salt based juices. All are only freebase.

If I switch to a MTL tank, is it ok to vape MTL on coils like 0.4 or 0.7 OHMS? Freebase juice will give good flavour and nic or do I strictly need salts if I am going to vape at low watts?

I wouldn’t take reviewers word as gospel. They are giving a subjective opinion especially when it comes to flavour. As for a satisfying MTL experience with a 0.7ohm coil – there is absolutely no fact that says it will or will not work for you. You are challenged at trying for your self and drawing your own conclusion. Those who may have experienced such coil can only give an opinion which again is subjective. If a 0.4, 0.7ohm or even a 1.8ohm coil provides you with satisfaction, then run with it!

Personally, I do not fixate on coil resistance. Above I gave a subjective opinion where 2 vastly different coils provided a very similar result. I use coils that give me the most satisfaction and I set my power to cater and dial in that satisfaction.

For nicotine delivery – start somewhere you are comfortable with, perhaps a happy medium. If too little, increase your nicotine, if too much, reduce. Accept there maybe a little trial and error. And if you end up outside the average, so be it. Your vape setup has to cater to you, not me or anyone else.


I am open to an individual being successful at quitting smoking with a MTL setup that mimics the action of smoking. But there is no guarantee that will work for everyone – it certainly did not work for me. We are all different individuals with different needs and values. It is beneficial to have many different setups that offer vastly different outcomes which can allow an individual trying to quit smoking be that much more successful.
 

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I wouldn’t take reviewers word as gospel. They are giving a subjective opinion especially when it comes to flavour. As for a satisfying MTL experience with a 0.7ohm coil – there is absolutely no fact that says it will or will not work for you. You are challenged at trying for your self and drawing your own conclusion. Those who may have experienced such coil can only give an opinion which again is subjective. If a 0.4, 0.7ohm or even a 1.8ohm coil provides you with satisfaction, then run with it!

Personally, I do not fixate on coil resistance. Above I gave a subjective opinion where 2 vastly different coils provided a very similar result. I use coils that give me the most satisfaction and I set my power to cater and dial in that satisfaction.

For nicotine delivery – start somewhere you are comfortable with, perhaps a happy medium. If too little, increase your nicotine, if too much, reduce. Accept there maybe a little trial and error. And if you end up outside the average, so be it. Your vape setup has to cater to you, not me or anyone else.


I am open to an individual being successful at quitting smoking with a MTL setup that mimics the action of smoking. But there is no guarantee that will work for everyone – it certainly did not work for me. We are all different individuals with different needs and values. It is beneficial to have many different setups that offer vastly different outcomes which can allow an individual trying to quit smoking be that much more successful.
@Punk in Drublic touched in a crucial point: all reviews are, were and always will be subjective. 100%. Anyone who read or watch them should always have this in mind. The fact a reviewer liked or disliked a device in any way will mean we will or won't like it either. It's necessary to know the reviewer preferences, their targets in vaping, and so on. Reviewers opinions are not, in any way, gospels [emoji1360]
 

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I wouldn’t take reviewers word as gospel. They are giving a subjective opinion especially when it comes to flavour. As for a satisfying MTL experience with a 0.7ohm coil – there is absolutely no fact that says it will or will not work for you. You are challenged at trying for your self and drawing your own conclusion. Those who may have experienced such coil can only give an opinion which again is subjective. If a 0.4, 0.7ohm or even a 1.8ohm coil provides you with satisfaction, then run with it!

Personally, I do not fixate on coil resistance. Above I gave a subjective opinion where 2 vastly different coils provided a very similar result. I use coils that give me the most satisfaction and I set my power to cater and dial in that satisfaction.

For nicotine delivery – start somewhere you are comfortable with, perhaps a happy medium. If too little, increase your nicotine, if too much, reduce. Accept there maybe a little trial and error. And if you end up outside the average, so be it. Your vape setup has to cater to you, not me or anyone else.


I am open to an individual being successful at quitting smoking with a MTL setup that mimics the action of smoking. But there is no guarantee that will work for everyone – it certainly did not work for me. We are all different individuals with different needs and values. It is beneficial to have many different setups that offer vastly different outcomes which can allow an individual trying to quit smoking be that much more successful.

@Punk in Drublic touched in a crucial point: all reviews are, were and always will be subjective. 100%. Anyone who read or watch them should always have this in mind. The fact a reviewer liked or disliked a device in any way will mean we will or won't like it either. It's necessary to know the reviewer preferences, their targets in vaping, and so on. Reviewers opinions are not, in any way, gospels [emoji1360]

Thanks. Yes I do understand that what a reviewer likes, I may not like it. But I get the idea about the product in general. I am thinking to buy the Nautilus 2 s but its very sad that all local stores carry only the 1.8 coil head. I will have to import other low ohms to try them. I was thinking to use a 0.7 or 0.4 OHM head so I could use my regular freebase with it because the suggested watts aren't too high like vaporesso qf coils which gives extremely hot vapor on the recommended settings and I am using them way too low and that makes them underpowered and hence very muted flavour. I hope to get some solution. MTL is not popular here at all and even the Nautilus 2 s is available from one online store only. Importing coils is painful because the shipping charges are more than the actual price of the coil pack. Also another drawback is that here only the TPD version of Nautilus 2 s is available. Looks like my journey has so many hurdles. Lol.
 
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Where do you live? Maybe it's better to focus your research in models you can actually find in your country, or it won't develop. I would love, for example, to have some SvöeMesto RTAs, but as I can't find it in the country I live, I need to forget it until I can travel abroad.

I live in United Arab Emirates. MTL tanks are scarce. Here its Smok everywhere. Extremely popular. Other brand like Vaporesso is not very popular and only local online stores carry them. Innokin Zinneth or Zlider is not available here. No Uwell crown series. All Smok and Smok accessories are readily available everywhere. Also no ejuice testers available. I had to spent a lot to try different juices.

According to my research both Innokin and Nautilus are nice tanks but I have access to Nautilus 2 and 2 S locally. If I import Innokin it will take like 4 weeks to arrive. I want to lay off from cigarettes as soon as possible. Is there any other good MTL tank than these above?
 

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Update: I ordered the Nautilus 2s tank because its available locally and the coils are readily available too. I will experiment with different coils and will let you know guys my experience.

There is one problem and I need your advise please. So my dear Mrs, today got angry over something and broke her phone and then she saw my luxe mod and she threw it to the floor with full force. The skrr tank is now history but to my surprise the Mod survived and didn't even have a single scratch. But the batteries have some tear. So two questions please:

1) The positive and negative poles looks fine. I attached the images. Please have a look and let me know if I can use these batteries or shall buy new ones? I put them inside Mod box and they are the mod started like it use to start and working fine.

2) Is it safe to use this Mod after being thrown to floor? I see all functions are fine and same like before.

Please reply. Thanks.

(I am very sorry for too many pictures. Just want to make sure you see all the damage and can suggest me accordingly. Please check each pic and let me know please)

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Those battery should be removed from your mod, place somewhere that is non conductive so they are not touching each other. You need to replace the wraps or failing that, replace the batteries. Please do not try to use them in that condition.

Below is a video demonstrating how to replace the wraps.


 
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