actually the answer is joules. but that doesn't make it any clearer how joule control works ... a simple way would be fixed wattage for a fixed time.
Can any one simplify the YiHi joules temp control
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actually the answer is joules. but that doesn't make it any clearer how joule control works ... a simple way would be fixed wattage for a fixed time.
Here is but one link to the subject of "Joules Heating"..... my search for Controlling Temperature with Joules didn't pan out...
Joule heating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I kinda thought it was Joules.
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Sure... Fixed voltage is Great. When things are Static, with No Rates of Change, things are much Simpler to Describe.
But is this Chip Outputting Fixed Voltage over the Enter Output Range?
Is it even Outputting Fixed Voltage over the Time of a Given Hit?
Sounds like something I said 13 pages ago
It's silly to take stabs in the dark -- I doubt "Joules are controlling temperature" any more than "Wattage controls temperature" its limiting the power flow in response to the calculated temp that does the trick here.
And just to help clarify there are a couple approaches to take to calculate the current, the voltage differential across the shunt (aka the coil) is really what is being measured by the DNA40 -- then this gets calculated as a resistance and sent through a function to try and calculate the temp based on how much this has changed.
Probably going to be the same voltage diferential through the shunt being measured by the ipv4 -- but who knows maybe they decided to go the hall effect sensor route which would measure current ...
What some people here seem to forget is that Voltage Current and Resistance are all related and interdependent -- if you know any two -- you also know the third....
Trying to guess how they programmed the logic that controls the temp before anyone has one in hand is just an effort of futility and will lead to a lot of frustration
But hey its easier to poke fun at something and ridicule it because you inherently dislike it when the facts are still unknown then it is to do so after you can be proven wrong
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Varitube posted in their supplier thread that the SX350J chip has new hardware components so no flash update enabling temperature protection for previous SX350 chips.
I emailed Yihi about whether the joules display meant that they were planning on introducing temperature protection in the original SX Mini. They said that no details would be released ahead of the release of the mod. It remains to be seen how much YiHi will discuss their use of joules in implementing temperature protection after the chip and SX Mini M class start arriving at dealers. I saw someone post in chat elsewhere that they already have their SX Mini M class - not forthcoming with details other than it works to stop burning cotton wick.
Perhaps that is all there is to it. However all attys use joule (resistance) heating all the time.
I understand the lack of info and the release of any on new technology and all that stuff.... I'm just searching to understand how joules can control temperature...how does it do that and etc. I am always interested in learning about new technology in vaping and this subject is no different and "how does it do what it does"....so we will have a better understanding after release and the "vapor clears" and the reviews start coming out...
Here is a link I read earlier, only pointing out, that a lot of folks are talking about it and have differing thoughts....
https://www.fasttech.com/forums/2103000/t/1540568/vw-and-variable-joule-are-the-same/1
EDIT:... from your link (good reading)... I saw this..... interesting.... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sx350-35w-chip-varitube-184.html#post15203019
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Dealers are getting units this week so we soon will know, but that has not stopped me from searching for a needle in the net hay stack. There are rumors it is working with kanthal too, wouldnt that be holy grail.
I don't know... This just feels wrong. It's like discussing a future Mercedes model with BMW reps.
This is no rant, attack, hidden agenda or anything. I just feel it's unpolite and uncorrect so called reps from the competition rambling around here. I wouldn't like to a YIHI rep troll a dna 40 thread either.
One thing is a fanboy. fanboys still have own opinions and who knows? They might even change their mind (I did more than once) but a rep? A guy that gets a free board, has to agree to certain disclosure terms and basically will do anything to get the next free board?
When I used to beta test (in another industry) I would never step in another company's thread yet alone start to discuss others technology.
Anyway, this probably will be ignored or taken the wrong way but I had to get it off my chest.
Funny... I only own Evolv products but here I am defending yihi's thread... What the world has come to...
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This is no rant, attack, hidden agenda or anything. I just feel it's unpolite and uncorrect so called reps from the competition rambling around here. I wouldn't like to a YIHI rep troll a dna 40 thread either.
One thing is a fanboy. fanboys still have own opinions and who knows? They might even change their mind (I did more than once) but a rep? A guy that gets a free board, has to agree to certain disclosure terms and basically will do anything to get the next free board?
When I used to beta test (in another industry) I would never step in another company's thread yet alone start to discuss others technology.
Anyway, this probably will be ignored or taken the wrong way but I had to get it off my chest.
Funny... I only own Evolv products but here I am defending yihi's thread... What the world has come to...
Regards
Tony
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Ok folks I reached out to a couple different sources and got some information back and its driven by power/temp settings.
The temp is limited via hardware and software, different than the other chips currently on the market. Whereas as others will clamp the power output to limit the temp, YiHi will fire full bore according to your Joules setting and limit the temp. Some may not like this because its going to appear hotter but its running to your setting and is accurate. You have total control over power and temp. A lot of people will love this for dialing in flavors. Current chips don't have total control since it clamps the power to limit the temp. Example, the current devices is set to 50w and 400F other chips will run around 40W or something flashing on the screen. YiHi set to 50 Joules will hammer the 50 joules and the temp will flash around the set limit you have selected.
YiHi have never copied anyones work! YiHi bypassed others a month after they released the 30W original Sx350 using customer flashed software upgrades which were free. Within 2 months offered a 50w chip for free through flashed software and now its 60W. YiHi copied nothing, they simply decided it would be appropriate to enter the modder space and give users additional options.
Remember I am not even close to an electrical engineer so please don't hammer me with questions. Just posting the information like I said I would to help everyone get a better idea of what is shortly coming to the marketplace.
The temp is limited via hardware and software, different than the other chips currently on the market. Whereas as others will clamp the power output to limit the temp, YiHi will fire full bore according to your Joules setting and limit the temp. Some may not like this because its going to appear hotter but its running to your setting and is accurate. You have total control over power and temp. A lot of people will love this for dialing in flavors. Current chips don't have total control since it clamps the power to limit the temp. Example, the current devices is set to 50w and 400F other chips will run around 40W or something flashing on the screen. YiHi set to 50 Joules will hammer the 50 joules and the temp will flash around the set limit you have selected.
YiHi have never copied anyones work! YiHi bypassed others a month after they released the 30W original Sx350 using customer flashed software upgrades which were free. Within 2 months offered a 50w chip for free through flashed software and now its 60W. YiHi copied nothing, they simply decided it would be appropriate to enter the modder space and give users additional options.
Remember I am not even close to an electrical engineer so please don't hammer me with questions. Just posting the information like I said I would to help everyone get a better idea of what is shortly coming to the marketplace.
Thank you for doing some leg work and Posting what you Found Out.
Thx for the info although I didn't understand it. As I see it, you can't hammer in "work" and not rise temperature. The logic would be limiting the energy sent to limit operating temperature (like Evolv and the Chinese are doing it). Not limiting power and still limit temperature? How is that even possible?
More confused than ever lol.
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Thanks for giving us what ya found out....will not hammer ya with questions that came to mind about the hardware/software/etc. I do have questions in order to have a better understanding but don't question the messenger... thanks again...
this is utter nonsense.
bull..... period. yihi shadows evolv and rips off evolv tech, and has since it started.
you whine and whine yet you're the one who brought up evolv in the first place. took a shot, made a false claim, were corrected and oh surprise, other people come in to take shots.
if you don't think it should be in another company's thread, keep it out of the other company's threads.
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Benz (Mercedes) invented the car. That didn't stop Ford as far as I know.
What's the big deal? The end consumer benefitting from rival companies fighting to make better products?
As a consumer, I don't see a problem. I'm sure that you, as a salesman, see it differently...
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Can you try to write in more perceptive terms? I didn't understand half of what you said. Thank you.
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