Canada Post is going back to work

[Kams Cats]

While I appreciate good politics and democracy - I'm hoping, praying even - that the post office goes back to work. This is getting nuts....

I know it's so frustrating. One side of me agrees that all bills should all be carefully weighed and looked at but the other side of me says enough!!! I want the mail back yesterday! **sigh**

 

[kanadiankat]

Senate has passed the bill - the postal service will go back to work.

It needs to be signed by the gov general (but he has no debating rights on this - just a rubber stamp). 24 hours later the bill goes into effect.

So it looks like Monday night the sorting centers will reopen and Tuesday - parcel deliveries!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!

 

[Not Iris]

YAY!
Now we can get busy doing what we do best and that is moving merchandise and vaping.

 

[just Ridge]

This Tuesday will be my little own Christmas morning....

Customer Information Hub: Canada Post/ CUPW Negotiations

 

[Can_supplier]

While I appreciate good politics and democracy - I'm hoping, praying even - that the post office goes back to work. This is getting nuts....

The only reason I will be glad to see it running under these circumstances is for the customers who’s orders were held hostage by Canada Post management. Other than that I think any wait is worth protecting our rights.

I think now it can be argued that Canada Post management was never under any pressure to settle. They knew that the government would legislate the workers back to work, so why bother to negotiate? I’m willing to wager if the government wouldn’t have stepped in, this thing would’ve been settled possibly long before now, and possible even before a strike in the first place.

Now you can get your mail, bills and all. But at what price? This is a sad day for Canada and all workers.

Minister Raitt has stated that the government is willing to do it again “If it is a matter of national public interest, the government will intervene.”. Notice “essential services” are not even a prerequisite anymore. Seems under this government unless you are a starving artist or are an ice salesman in Yellowknife you have lost your right to collective bargaining.

 

[TallGrass]

after arbitration is finished and done with they'll probably just get a 2% wage increase over each of the next 3 years instead of 3%..... while the private sector is blown away.

I like my mailguy, he's there every day at 10:47 AM.. like clockwork. He's a nice guy but if he gives me one word about how they were screwed.........

 

[just Ridge]

He's a nice guy but if he gives me one word about how they were screwed.........

You'd go postal?

 

[NatureBoy]

The only reason I will be glad to see it running under these circumstances is for the customers who’s orders were held hostage by Canada Post management. Other than that I think any wait is worth protecting our rights.

I think now it can be argued that Canada Post management was never under any pressure to settle. They knew that the government would legislate the workers back to work, so why bother to negotiate? I’m willing to wager if the government wouldn’t have stepped in, this thing would’ve been settled possibly long before now, and possible even before a strike in the first place.

Now you can get your mail, bills and all. But at what price? This is a sad day for Canada and all workers.

Minister Raitt has stated that the government is willing to do it again “If it is a matter of national public interest, the government will intervene.”. Notice “essential services” are not even a prerequisite anymore. Seems under this government unless you are a starving artist or are an ice salesman in Yellowknife you have lost your right to collective bargaining.

Your post makes no sense. What "starving artist" or "ice salesman" has a union and gripes about a bunch of BS (with a couple legitimate issues) causing enormous inconveniences to Canadians (businesses and individuals) nation-wide?

Just a bit melodramatic there bud..

 

[dopeh]

 

[Concat]

I think now it can be argued that Canada Post management was never under any pressure to settle. They knew that the government would legislate the workers back to work, so why bother to negotiate? I’m willing to wager if the government wouldn’t have stepped in, this thing would’ve been settled possibly long before now, and possible even before a strike in the first place.

Canada Post gave the union a better offer than what this bill is giving workers. That has to say something about their willingness to work with the Union. Basically what the Union wanted was more than what CP offered, which was more than what the Government legislated.

Union gambled and lost big time. Keep in mind that CP will almost definately post a loss this year. Losing millions of dollars per day isn't any pressure?

The whole situation is a complete cluster-fudge.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Canada Post said they were going to be open Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays after a week of rotating strikes. Instead, they just kept the workers locked out and forced back-to-work legislation. I feel like I got screwed over by both sides. Neither side was completely honest about their position. But, Canada Post was the bigger tool in my opinion.

 

[Can_supplier]

Union gambled and lost big time. Keep in mind that CP will almost definately post a loss this year. Losing millions of dollars per day isn't any pressure?

The whole situation is a complete cluster-fudge.

No I don't think losing millions of dollars per day is, or it didn't seem to be much pressure. Rotating strikes were costing them, but locking everything down had to be costing them more.

It’s even more silly if you do the math. The union wanted 1% more than was offered, so let’s take a worker who makes $25/hour. That is a 25 cent/hour raise, works out to $550. 48,000 workers X $550 = $26.4 million. If the strike was costing as claimed hundreds of millions that was a rather poor business decision on the part of management. Cost the company 100 million to save $26.4 million?

Or maybe their sob story about how much the company lost wasn’t the truth. Liars or just plain stupid, your guess is as good as mine, but neither paints a good picture of management.

Management in this case has no direct financial interest. They don't own shares or options. Pin the loss on the Union, nothing out of their pocket and they don't look bad. The government stood to lose the money, so that was more pressure to introduce the legislation. Win win for management. Next year with the lower wage Canada Post can make even a larger profit than last, so it is pat yourself on the back and bonus time for management.

Cluster-fudge all the way around, I agree.

In the end it is a win for management, draw for government (since it seems workers don't even support workers), loss for postal workers, and a loss, any way you look at it, for us. It doesn't put a smile on my face.

 

[rolandpibb]

No I don't think losing millions of dollars per day is, or it didn't seem to be much pressure. Rotating strikes were costing them, but locking everything down had to be costing them more.

It’s even more silly if you do the math. The union wanted 1% more than was offered, so let’s take a worker who makes $25/hour. That is a 25 cent/hour raise, works out to $550. 48,000 workers X $550 = $26.4 million. If the strike was costing as claimed hundreds of millions that was a rather poor business decision on the part of management. Cost the company 100 million to save $26.4 million?

Or maybe their sob story about how much the company lost wasn’t the truth. Liars or just plain stupid, your guess is as good as mine, but neither paints a good picture of management.

Management in this case has no direct financial interest. They don't own shares or options. Pin the loss on the Union, nothing out of their pocket and they don't look bad. The government stood to lose the money, so that was more pressure to introduce the legislation. Win win for management. Next year with the lower wage Canada Post can make even a larger profit than last, so it is pat yourself on the back and bonus time for management.

Cluster-fudge all the way around, I agree.

In the end it is a win for management, draw for government (since it seems workers don't even support workers), loss for postal workers, and a loss, any way you look at it, for us. It doesn't put a smile on my face.

The "losing money" math was completely manipulated. It's like when the police find a pound of stuff and state it's worth over $9000 dollars. Yeah if you're a really creative accountant who can sell ice to an eskimo