I suspect it probably will, as it uses Canada post once it hits Canada. I also have a package being shipped with the same method and it just hit the border. I expect it will be stuck now until the strike is over.
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I suspect it probably will, as it uses Canada post once it hits Canada. I also have a package being shipped with the same method and it just hit the border. I expect it will be stuck now until the strike is over.
I'm not sure but Fed-ex and the like SHOULDN'T be affected by it. Sucks so much for you guys that had orders on the way 
Been reading about this since my fiance is up there, really hurts the businesses and the people. I hope they end it soon!
Been reading about this since my fiance is up there, really hurts the businesses and the people. I hope they end it soon!
Well my Vaporium order is officially stuck. BASTAGES! Ticks me off as it hit my city yesterday but didn't make the truck.. now it's stuck for who knows how long
Not sure on my Juicy Clear order.. I don't think it's even shipped yet?!?!.. At least I haven't seen one of the usual "Item's in the mail" e-mails..
Not sure on my Juicy Clear order.. I don't think it's even shipped yet?!?!.. At least I haven't seen one of the usual "Item's in the mail" e-mails..
Same for me man, and i have a REO Grand as well in the mail, was supposed to be here on Friday... and i had ordered my new juices on Sunday night, they where shipped on Monday from the G.T.A. so with the strike that juice may just rot in Canada Post's storage for a while... wonder if they will end up closing Canada Post period.
This is horrible news! I have 3 packages that were supposed to be delivered today
At least HappyVaper and a few others are offering alternative shipping methods. I just put in an order through eVapers for some juice in case the strike runs long.
At least HappyVaper and a few others are offering alternative shipping methods. I just put in an order through eVapers for some juice in case the strike runs long.
Yea it sucks, I just placed two orders as well.
Jack (happyvaper) does have an option now on his site to ship not using canada post though, so if you need hardware (or 0mg juice) hit him up.
Jack (happyvaper) does have an option now on his site to ship not using canada post though, so if you need hardware (or 0mg juice) hit him up.
Let's go Postal on Canada Post!!! (funny movie ref. before I'm accused of rioting and uprising)
CP is doing this to get the posties legislated back to work. They didn't like the rotating strikes.
$ 23/hr starting wage sounds like a lot but that's the starting wage for an apprentice ironworker (less benefits) where I work and the 1st year apprentices are nothing more then gofers and steel slingers.
$ 23/hr starting wage sounds like a lot but that's the starting wage for an apprentice ironworker (less benefits) where I work and the 1st year apprentices are nothing more then gofers and steel slingers.
Don't forget that as an Ironworker your job is way more dangerous than a postman, and I know that for a fact as i was a ironworker myself (FTQ Local 192) for a few years, one of the reasons i quit doing this job was because of many dangers on construction sites. So i don't think its a fair comparison IMHO. I might be wrong tho but i had to add my 2cents.
Actually postal workers have a worst injury record in my town then the ironworkers. (slip and falls and dog bites being high on the list)
the construction industry here is really tight on safety. sometimes overly tight.
the construction industry here is really tight on safety. sometimes overly tight.
Interesting,
I'll look into the stats in Quebec, but I'm guessing the number of injuries are higher, but the gravity is not the same, i been witness of at least 4 deadly accidents (and a bunch of limb loosing accidents) on construction sites both as a ironworker and a carpenter, i never heard of a postman killed by result of a work injury in the recent years. Once again i might be utterly wrong! So I'll go look it up by curiosity
I'll look into the stats in Quebec, but I'm guessing the number of injuries are higher, but the gravity is not the same, i been witness of at least 4 deadly accidents (and a bunch of limb loosing accidents) on construction sites both as a ironworker and a carpenter, i never heard of a postman killed by result of a work injury in the recent years. Once again i might be utterly wrong! So I'll go look it up by curiosity
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Postal workers have a lot of WCB claims, that's true... but their job is hardly considered hazardous. Dog bites, bee stings and twisted ankles are a far cry from losing a limb or getting your head smashed in.
They don't get "hazard pay," so to speak. They get good wages because it's federal employment, and they are living in a bygone era. They're wages and benefits are sort of outside the scope of a free market, otherwise UPS employees would be making the same now wouldn't they?
They don't get "hazard pay," so to speak. They get good wages because it's federal employment, and they are living in a bygone era. They're wages and benefits are sort of outside the scope of a free market, otherwise UPS employees would be making the same now wouldn't they?
Downward presure on wages is never a good thing, for anyone.
What is your job? Bet you someone does it in China for $1/week. So I guess that is what you are worth?
Don't take that the wrong way. For all I know you are a rocket scientist, and my statement still applies.
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What is someone’s job worth? Its worth what the company can make off them and afford to pay them for making the company that money.
Canada Post can afford to pay they wage they do, and they can afford to meet the Union’s reasonable demands, that is what a postal worker is worth, simple as that.
Another way to look at it. My background is Tool and Die. That was one of the highest paid trades. WAS is key. When the auto industry dried up the money wasn’t there to pay, and the wages sunk. Now it’s a lower paid one. Its all about economics, not which job is harder, more dangerous or whatever.
I say again, if the money that Canada Post makes isn't used to pay the workers who made the money, who should have it?
Canada Post can afford to pay they wage they do, and they can afford to meet the Union’s reasonable demands, that is what a postal worker is worth, simple as that.
Another way to look at it. My background is Tool and Die. That was one of the highest paid trades. WAS is key. When the auto industry dried up the money wasn’t there to pay, and the wages sunk. Now it’s a lower paid one. Its all about economics, not which job is harder, more dangerous or whatever.
I say again, if the money that Canada Post makes isn't used to pay the workers who made the money, who should have it?
Needless to say I am having a bad day with Canada Post’s decision, so please bear with my rant.
While we are beating up on a letter carrier here making just slightly more than the average Canadian income, we have dangerous fools sucking a 6 figure income.
Why are you not getting your mail? The Union’s rotating strike still got your mail out to you, just might be a few days late. What it did do was kill Canada Post’s unaddressed ad mail. You know those flyers that clutter your mail box and annoy you. Canada Post makes a huge profit off those. However with rotating strikes they could not longer offer that service. Companies didn’t want to pay to have their Friday specials flyer delivered next Monday. To you and me all the meant was a cleaner mailbox.
However because the greedy upper management was upset this cut into their bottom line, they decided to lock the doors. Its all about money and their greed. What that means is, they couldn’t care less about you and your packages. If they don’t get their ad mail profits, they are going to hold YOUR packages and goods hostage! Yes they are attacking YOU! These are the fine folks that think they are worth 10 times what a worker makes for coming up with bright ideas like that!
This attitude on the part of management, now directed at us, gives us a glimpse of what the workers have to deal with everyday and their livelihood depends on.
While we are beating up on a letter carrier here making just slightly more than the average Canadian income, we have dangerous fools sucking a 6 figure income.
Why are you not getting your mail? The Union’s rotating strike still got your mail out to you, just might be a few days late. What it did do was kill Canada Post’s unaddressed ad mail. You know those flyers that clutter your mail box and annoy you. Canada Post makes a huge profit off those. However with rotating strikes they could not longer offer that service. Companies didn’t want to pay to have their Friday specials flyer delivered next Monday. To you and me all the meant was a cleaner mailbox.
However because the greedy upper management was upset this cut into their bottom line, they decided to lock the doors. Its all about money and their greed. What that means is, they couldn’t care less about you and your packages. If they don’t get their ad mail profits, they are going to hold YOUR packages and goods hostage! Yes they are attacking YOU! These are the fine folks that think they are worth 10 times what a worker makes for coming up with bright ideas like that!
This attitude on the part of management, now directed at us, gives us a glimpse of what the workers have to deal with everyday and their livelihood depends on.
I'm just saying that they aren't subject to regular market influences like other companies because it's federal. It's not really a competitive field, unless you count courier services as competition. Mail is steadily declining, yet they don’t want layoffs or any sort of concession. When demand decreases in a free market, generally speaking you should be decreasing the cost of your service. This doesn’t happen. In fact, prices are likely to go up, which is counterintuitive.
I'm not even suggesting they take a pay cut. But that's not even why they are up in arms. It has to do with their pension and sick time. They don't want a short term disability program, and they want to keep the defined benefit pension plan.
STD is becoming very common place in the workplace, and defined benefit plans are pretty slick provided you don’t job hop a lot. Canada Post is trying to reduce operating costs but the Union won’t yield. The only other options are layoffs, reduction of work hours (delivery 3 days a week anyone?), or a price hike. And as I said, a price hike when sales are down is counterintuitive in a free market.
And in any sort of labor dispute you inevitably get people talking about the fat cats up at the top. I’m not privy to their pay scales or their corporate structure so I can’t really pass comment. No doubt there is probably a lot of room for improvement there. Generally speaking, bureaucratic companies like CP tend to be top heavy, for sure.
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I don't see those as options at all, when a company is turning a $120 million profit. You would have a point if they were in the red, but they are not.
Do not fool yourself. This isn't to keep Canada Post alive, it is so they can turn this year's $120 million profit into a $140 million one next year.
What do you care more about? CP making 20% more year after year, or having the decency to give a worker the day off when they are sick?
They’d still get sick time. With Short Term Disability programs you usually get a set number of sick hours per year. Should you go over that amount, you have to apply for short term disability through your benefits provider. As it stands right now, they can accrue sick time indefinitely. A lot of companies have moved away from that model.
We’re not talking about getting the flu and not coming in for 3 days. We’re talking about pulling your back out at the grocery store and being off sick for 6 months. Instead of Canada Post taking the brunt of those costs, the employees’ benefit program would pay for their time off.
And as for profits, Canada Post has over 60 000 employees. $120 million in profits is pretty small for a company that large. Moreover it’s a Crown Corporation. There aren’t a bunch of shareholders reaping in those profits. It’s Canada’s money. Their drive for profitability is more like a drive for sustainability than it is a drive to make money for shareholders like in the private sector.
We’re not talking about getting the flu and not coming in for 3 days. We’re talking about pulling your back out at the grocery store and being off sick for 6 months. Instead of Canada Post taking the brunt of those costs, the employees’ benefit program would pay for their time off.
And as for profits, Canada Post has over 60 000 employees. $120 million in profits is pretty small for a company that large. Moreover it’s a Crown Corporation. There aren’t a bunch of shareholders reaping in those profits. It’s Canada’s money. Their drive for profitability is more like a drive for sustainability than it is a drive to make money for shareholders like in the private sector.
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