Canadian E-Juice Prices.. wow?

[tabaccoiswacko]

Hello friends,

Why are prices in canada SO MUCH MORE expensive then the states? Like, for 30ML in the states its 5-10$ while here its $20+? Anyone know this answer?
Are sellers just being greedy?
Is it because most of them import from the USA and there are risks attached to that?
Is it because there is less demand?
Is it because of the cost of shipping they add to us Canadian buyers (because they ship from the states?) Wouldn't american home-brews have to ship in most of their ingredients too?
Or am I just missing the good priced sites?

Thanks,


Edit: Also our dollar is almost on par.. so I dont assume that would be an excuse.

 

[zer0ith]

Supply. The demand is there, but because of the current issues within Canada for Nic-juice. Tiz not super easy

 

[woooozzaa]

Or am I just missing the good priced sites?

You can find a couple starting around 13-15$ for 30ml but yeah, that's about right. What kind of 5$ juice did you find on a us site? Might just be a blowout or some odd juice that's not selling no? I wasn't aware the prices where THAT low in the us lol.

 

[tabaccoiswacko]

Well I also just thought of another reason, Canadian suppliers know how much we pay per pack, $10 now in BC. They assume we will still save money at those prices while in America they still play about half of that. Could be an idea. I guess the current issues with legality could be it.... but its not like their going to jail, they are being asked to stop selling or face the legal system. Anyways once I become a super E-juice'er, I shall, one day far far away, find a way to sell super cheap juices. =D hahaha.

 

[tabaccoiswacko]

You can find a couple starting around 13-15$ for 30ml but yeah, that's about right. What kind of 5$ juice did you find on a us site? Might just be a blowout or some odd juice that's not selling no? I wasn't aware the prices where THAT low in the us lol.

At least half, especially for the E-juice tester packs, $20 in the USA, $40-50 here for the same thing. Some yes are on sale, but still. WEBSITE : BlueMist Vaping Supplies

 

[sam.8]

I find there's a lot of variables for liquid price. Premium vs discounted vs mass produced etc. I find the shipping more of the "issue". Way cheaper in the US, but you take a gamble. I seem to order half my liquid from cdn and half from us. I also find you often get what you pay for.

 

[tabaccoiswacko]

I would agree sam, you find some huge hits on the shipping (more so from Canada). Plus I cant find enough reviews on the canadian juices compared to some of the american ones. I'm still waiting for my PV, I've also ordered some juice from a few different places. We will see once it all comes =D

 

[Toronto_Mike]

I think its a combination of many things. The US market is much larger with hundreds of suppliers. While on this side of the border there is like maybe a dozen of E-Juice suppliers. The same holds true for hardware. A new eGo-C kit is $129CND, here & just $79 at a US site. I am assuming the american company buys in bigger bulk & gets his inventory at a better price. Canadian sellers should keep their margins to a minimum because once we're a satisfied customer, most of us will come back for more. I've spent $750 in my 1st 5 weeks of vaping at 3 CND online stores but if prices don't start to reflect that of the US, I'll go against my will & shop south of the border.

 

[woooozzaa]

I've spent $750 in my 1st 5 weeks of vaping at 3 CND online stores but if prices don't start to reflect that of the US, I'll go against my will & shop south of the border.

China has even cheaper prices if your going to order outside the borders. 750$ seems an awful lot in 5 weeks what did you buy??

 

[wood]

suppliers choose the prices they charge , some are higher than others but its up to u what you'll pay
some juice is 22$ but if you decide to be a reseller and buy in volume then u get it for 11-12 a bottle and mark it up to resell
i figure if they can loose half the price to sell to the resellers its probably less than 1/4 of what its costing them to make a 30 ml bott;e
otherwise there would be no profit at selling it to resellers for 12$ im guessing it costs them 4-5 dollars to produce the 30 ml
but thats just a guess and im pulling that number out of thin air

if u want to save money u can always DIY
im too lazy so i just try to find decent prices here in canada or i venture to the american market

 

[DevilFishPhil]

I can guarantee that FreedomSmokeUSA pays a lot less for every ml of nic juice than any other Canadian vendor seeing as they're probably buying upwards of 10000L per month (totally pulled that figure out of my a** but you get the point ). The more you buy the bigger discount you get, the same reason why Costco is generally cheaper for a lot of items.

Add to that the fact that they don't have to deal with the threat of having their shipments seized and they have a lot more flexibility when pricing their product to make a profit. Canadian vendors have to factor that risk in their pricing to compensate for a potential loss.

There are indeed a lot more vendors in the US, but there's also nearly 10x as many people and I'm certain that there's a much higher percentage of vapers in the US than there are in Canada given the current state of affairs.

Also we can't blame our vendors for higher shipping costs, that's just something that's out of their control.

Ultimately it's up to the user to decide whether it's worth the risk of having their order seized at the border, or pay a premium from one of our Canadian vendors and have the peace of mind that their order is going to arrive at your door steps in 2-3 days without fail.

 

[TrueNorthist]

I would guess that demand in .ca is substantially less and there's that little issue with availability of certain ingredients up here. The sellers no doubt buy at only slightly less than retail from sources down south and take significant losses while importing due to various "difficulties". All in all, with the general increase in cost for just about everything in Canada over US prices, as well as the costs and risks and other complicating matters in selling e-juices, I would say that the prices here are not entirely out of line. I can only speak from a purely theoretical perspective of course as I am yet to buy more than a small amount, but as a small business owner myself I can understand why there is such a difference. I pay on average about 25% more for identical parts and supplies for my business than others I compete with south of 49. Not to mention the higher taxes and labour/medical/unemployment/retirement costs. I could only imagine just how much more expensive it would be if motor oil were not available in Canada and I had to spirit it in somehow,. Or worse, make it myself.

Just sayin...

 

[TrueNorthist]

Sorry DevilFish. You beat me by that much.

 

[wood]

i should add i am willing to dish out the higher price for stuff i like because i only like a couple juices some are cheap some are pricey but if i find something i can use all day id pay 30 for 30 , still cheaper than smokes

 

[Mindfield]

Sorry DevilFish. You beat me by that much.

I think pretty much everything is covered. Higher cost to bring supplies in, more risk in doing so, smaller market compared to the US, since vendors can't make up in volume what they'd lose in profit margin. Plus many of the vendors here are just one or two people who can't afford to hire more, which puts a cap on the volume of juice they can produce at once.

Prices for locally-made juice in the US weren't much different a couple of years ago.

Give it time. If and when HC gets their head out of their collective rumps and does a 180 on E-juice in Canada, the market will expand dramatically, we'll see a lot more competition, and while we still won't be able to do much about the higher cost of importing supplies here, we will still see lower average prices as demand increases.

 

[Concat]

Hello friends,

Why are prices in canada SO MUCH MORE expensive then the states? Like, for 30ML in the states its 5-10$ while here its $20+? Anyone know this answer?
Are sellers just being greedy?
Is it because most of them import from the USA and there are risks attached to that?
Is it because there is less demand?
Is it because of the cost of shipping they add to us Canadian buyers (because they ship from the states?) Wouldn't american home-brews have to ship in most of their ingredients too?
Or am I just missing the good priced sites?

Thanks,


Edit: Also our dollar is almost on par.. so I dont assume that would be an excuse.

It's not entirely true... you can get juices from the states that cost over $20 for 30 mL in the states (Pinkspotvapors is a recent one I looked at) and you can get juice in Canada for cheaper (Jugheads sells his stuff for $13.99 for 30 mL, and you used to be able to get Dekang from him for $6.99 per 30 mL until he sold out of it).

Perhaps the average Canadian ejuice is more, but I think you might be surprised. There's quite a few expensive ones in the states. Problem is they have many more options than us.

In the end, everything is more expensive in Canada, regardless of our strong dollar. Books are a notorious example. They print the damn price right on the book, so it stays static.

 

[Nikkita6]

That is why I started to DIY almost immediately .. I just refuse to pay those kind of prices, and to be very honest I feel that many vendors were just taking advantage of the low supply vs high demand period! ....

Because of the Customs/border issues that canadian consumers face, I am sure at least "some" vendors knew that we as consumers were ... over barrel, and would prolly pay the higher prices because many don't want to take the risk of having to deal with refused orders at the border, and understandably so.

And while DIY is cheaper, it is also way more expensive to DIY in Canada than it is in the US ... I can get 1 Gallon of PG for 18.99 (w/o shipping, $48.00 w/shipping) in the U.S, so why did it cost me $27.96 (w/o shipping, $41.96 w/shipping) to buy 240ml of PG in Canada??

Because I am ... over barrel and being that there is a good chance my 1 Gallon of PG may not make to me and I really can't be bothered with that, so I paid the much too high price, for much too little PG.

 

[<---cop]

Think yourself lucky you aren't in Australia.

We pay $12-$14 for 30ml of 0mg ejuice!!!

 

[OntariAuLait]

Because I am ... over barrel and being that there is a good chance my 1 Gallon of PG may not make to me and I really can't be bothered with that, so I paid the much too high price, for much too little PG.

Really? I order a lot of PG/VG on their own from the US and haven't had a problem. Customs doesn't even look at it, and that's exactly what it says on the shipping label: Propylene Glycol. It's even from a company with an obvious e-cig related name!

I also originally found a 250mL bottle at a local independent pharmacy for something like $11 right off their supply shelf. It was actually pretty pleasant. The pharmacist gave me a general disclaimer that although they use it for medicines and stuff that I can't drink it and I said "uhhh yeah...I have to add flavouring to it and lick it." and then he laughed and said "oh that probably won't hurt you!" I said "I have heard your disclaimer, thank you!" and he laughed again and rung me up.

The nic is what makes it reasonable to ask for danger pay, and what makes it more expensive for me is definitely shipping costs and TXN fees for currency exchange/visa etc. I'm learning to use anything but private couriers to keep clearance costs out of it.

 

[JayTheVapingGuy]

i'm with the majority... DIY is really the way to go...

if you don't want to mess around with it, you pay the prices for guaranteed service and products... or you pay the price and risk not getting your nic juice and having little to no avenue for getting it... Many US companies, if they will sell to canada, will only attempt once, if it gets stopped at the border, they won't try again...

Devices... as long as theres no nic involved... you' go where the market prices are the best... or where you can... i tend to try to buy Canadian if i can, but many times i do end up going to the US just on the basis of price, i'm a single dad and need to make this somewhat economical... where i can i get things at decent prices in canada... there are savings to be found here... jsut gotta look for them.

cheers,

Jay