zoidman, I struggled for a long time too. I started with two 510 cigalike kits which was about all that was available back then. I moved from that to making my own box mods, to buying the early mods like the screwdriver and prodigy. Even with the prodigy running two batteries and 36mg liquid, I still wasn't satisfied. I put out a call for help and found out about Swedish snus. Back then there wasn't any American snus. My first reaction was that I didn't want to put tobacco in my mouth. I did a lot of reading about research on snus and found that most snus comes in small pouches called portions. I just can't do loose tobacco. I had felt myself sinking into depression and the first time I tried snus it was like someone turned on a light in a dark room. My stand on snus and WTA liquid is that if you can get off the cigarettes without it then do it. I would never recommend it to someone that doesn't need extra help. There are many misconceptions about Swedish snus and most people lump it into the same category as all smokeless tobacco.