Cant Quit the Damned Analogs

[RioRanchoAggie]

So because you have all taken the time to encourage me I wanted to share an idea I have that someone could make some money on. I don't want credit, dont need money - I just want an iPad app that tracks the amount I have not smoked, tracks my e cig purchases and spits out one of those cool: "its been 3 days, 10 hours, 1 min since my last analog. 10k not smoked etc etc..saved $2k..."

thank you all again for your support, other suggestions are definitely welcomed and thanks again.

 

[dormouse]

Try LR cartomizers instead of tanks and Boge are most popular. Learn on the standard resistance (around 3.0 ohms) first if you have never used stuffing cartomizers. I highly recommend juices with 20% or less Vg and I avoid any that seem to leave alot of flavoring sediment in the stuffing. I know there is an American Spirit juice at FreedomSmokeUSA but it is only sold as 50/50 so that won't work as well in cartos. Even tanks prefer 20-30% VG.

If you know how to use stuffing cartomizers you could also try the dual coil ones some people like. Or the new clear cartomizers C3 - Gotvapes has an early version they are calling Fluxomizer Deluxe and remember to add the blunt syringe or needle tip bottle to your order if you don't have one already.

What juices are you using? I did not read the whole thread. If you are using high VG juices then you are not getting the TH and flavor you could be getting. If you are using 100% PG then you are not getting the vapor you could get with even 10% VG. And have you tried other juices?

And re cigs - First get your equipment and juice straightened out. Then only buy a brand of cigs you hate for emergencies - not your faves. Then stick them and a lighter in a plastic bag in the trunk of your car for emergencies.

 

[Beans]

Hahaha, I don't think anyone has made one yet, but you can link on my quit banner below and hook yourself up with one.
Also IPad does have a really great free calculator called ejuice. Check it out, it's a fantastic app. I use it everyday!

 

[RioRanchoAggie]

Try LR cartomizers instead of tanks and Boge are most popular. Learn on the standard resistance (around 3.0 ohms) first if you have never used stuffing cartomizers. I highly recommend juices with 20% or less Vg and I avoid any that seem to leave alot of flavoring sediment in the stuffing. I know there is an American Spirit juice at FreedomSmokeUSA but it is only sold as 50/50 so that won't work as well in cartos. Even tanks prefer 20-30% VG.

If you know how to use stuffing cartomizer You could also try the dual coil ones some people like. Or the new clear cartomizers C3 - Gotvapes has an early version they are calling Fluxomizer Deluxe and remember to add the blunt syringe or needle tip bottle to your order if you don't have one already.

What juices are you using? I did not read the whole thread. If you are using high VG juices then you are not getting the TH and flavor you could be getting. If you are using 100% PG then you are not getting the vapor you could get with even 10% VG. And have you tried other juices?

And re cigs - First get your equipment and juice straightened out. Then only buy a brand of cigs you hate for emergencies - not your faves. Then stick them and a lighter in a plastic bag in the trunk of your car for emergencies.

Why Cartomizers instead of tanks. I currently use 50/50 bends, I do have some higher 36mg that is 70/30 i believe.

 

[RioRanchoAggie]

Hahaha, I don't think anyone has made one yet, but you can link on my quit banner below and hook yourself up with one.
Also IPad does have a really great free calculator called ejuice. Check it out, it's a fantastic app. I use it everyday!

Downloading now...thx

 

[dormouse]

With cartomizers you can switch flavors totally. They are not sharing an atomizer. For heat, you will have more choices of resistances with cartomizers vs one kind of LR tank atomizer. Much less atomizer cleaning too since you would only use them to test juices and vape ones that are too thick or not favorites.

You certainly can stick with tanks. Some people complain of lack or flavor and leaking. if you are not having problems and happy with them then fine. I figured if you were still reaching for cigarettes that everything was not fine and I was offering you some options.

 

[RioRanchoAggie]

With cartomizers you can switch flavors totally. They are not sharing an atomizer. For heat, you will have more choices of resistances with cartomizers vs one kind of LR tank atomizer. Much less atomizer cleaning too since you would only use them to test juices and vape ones that are too thick or not favorites.

You certainly can stick with tanks. Some people complain of lack or flavor and leaking. if you are not having problems and happy with them then fine. I figured if you were still reaching for cigarettes that everything was not fine and I was offering you some options.

Don't get me wrong i was not questioning - just asking questions. I really appreciate the advise I will probably purchase some today. I didn't understand the reason and now i completely do. Thank you! Best place for Boge?

 

[Sophey]

Needo's idea is brilliant: vape first, and then smoke. No guilt necessary. I'll have to suggest that to my son. He can't give up his American Spirits yet either -- though he also uses snus when working and vapes a few times every day.

Here's another idea that might help: Figure out the exact amount of money you spend on analogs each week and set it aside in an envelope for something you would much prefer to spend it on (a trip, an electronic gadget, whatever you heart desires). When you buy analogs, spend only from that envelope. In time, if you really want that special treat enough (and refuse to allow yourself to purchase it by any other means than by what is contained in that envelope), you'll save up enough to nicely reward yourself. In other words, make a game of it (where you compete against the envelope). It's actually fun to delay gratification like that -- gives meaning to the reward and somehow switches the energy of stressful moments into something positive. (This works even if you are a billionaire. It's about the competition with yourself, not about the money.)

No matter what you do, you're already well on your way to becoming a non-smoker. You desire it, and it will happen. Congratulations Rio!

 

[dormouse]

Boge - I usually get 5-packs at LiteCigUSA.net and you could also check Liberty-Flights.com (press LF's 20% off upper left front page first). And I really recommend thin juices with these. When I put in a juice with more VG than 20% I can feel the drag suffer. The lower amount of VG will also let the flavor and TH through better. Juices that drop a lot of sediment will degrade them faster.

I find it helps me to vape contrasting flavors. They help refresh my palate for each other. One is my cocoa tobacco (Vapor4Life WOWbacco) and one is a blend of vanillas (Vapor4Life WOW Vanilla mixed with Gourmet Vapor vanillarum)

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How I fill Vapor4Life KR8 cartos and Boge 510 cartos

Pop out the soft cap with an unbent paperclip in the mouth hole, very careful not to catch stuffing or the wire loop.
Shake and open the eliquid
Hold a bit of tissue on the threaded end hole, tilt the carto, and add 18 drops per ml of capacity into the stuffing (Boges and most KR8 cartos are about 1ml).
Wait 15 seconds or so then see how many more drops the carto stuffing will soak in easily.
Clean up the threaded end, tilt open end down into tissue, puff into threaded end to clear air channel (Boges and the KR8 cartos I use have a defined center air channel and I want to see light through that)
Sop up any loose juice above the stuffing
Cap and let it settle - I lay it on different sides for 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing gets damp so I won't singe the carto. if you use thicker juice than me (I use 20% Vg or less) then you may need to wait much longer.

While vaping, if the vapor gets a bit light or a bit dry or the carto is getting hotter than normal, I take the carto off the battery and add eliquid. I sometimes use a plastic or delrin drip tip as a mouthpiece on Boge and KR8 cartos (not to drip into since the juice would head for the central air channel)

 

[UntamedRose]

Try a higher Nic, some LR attys, and vape when you want to smoke...then smoke if you still want to.


also no creative spelling with the cuss words please

 

[Beans]

I just got a goodphropets email. They have Boge on sale right now $5.99 a pack. Not too bad.

 

[Uncle Willie]

I smoked for 3 years after a massive heart attack .. while ignoring my family, friends and doctors preaching .. I lit a cig wihin 15 minutes of getting out of the hospital .. and I liked it ..

I bought an early model e-cig, an NJOY maybe 6 months to a year after the heart attack .. hated it .. set it aside ..

5 months ago, I bought a new and improved NJOY and smoked my last cig .. just got up one morning and did it .. eventually, I stumbled on this Forum and have upgraded my gear .. have not had an analog although that first month or so was tough, tough, tough ..

Point is, whatever happens, you have to want to do it .. I mean, really want to do it .. and until you do, nothing will change .. but, the good news is, once you get your mind right, it can be done ..

As a 40 year smoker, I'm living testament to that ..

 

[JoeDLion188]

HI Rio. I have been vaping since May and still smoke at least 2 analogs a day for no other reason than I just want to lol.

Same boat. I still, believe it or not, enjoy smoking.

If you enjoy vaping you will eventually be able to cut down on the analogs. Even if you just cut down a little to start- its a major win for you. Good luck and stick with it.

When I started vaping, I started with a way too low amount and had to stay on them until a new order arrived. I never beat myself up over having analogues (I have enough reasons to beat myself up without adding one more, thank you very much!) and have them when I want to and they are available. It tends to be two a day. Some times three, sometimes one, more often it's none. And on rare occasion, all but chain smoking a pack while at the pub ! (Didn't have to beat myself up over that, the beer and cigarettes did it for me the next morning...)

Hang in there, we're all pulling for you.

 

[txteatime]

Ecigs can help with some of the issues, making it somewhat easier to quit, but you really do have to come to a decision in your own mind and resolve to stick to it. If you're not ready to give up analogs entirely, there's nothing wrong with that. But, rather than just going with a "smoke 'em if you got 'em" mentality, make a decision on how many analogs per day is acceptable to you and form a plan from there. If you want to change the situation, you have to take control.

I kind of worked it out before I ordered my Ecig kit. I bought just enough ciggies to last until the kit arrived in the mail and I spent the remaining month's cigarette budget on that kit and supplies. This way, I HAD to give it my best shot because I had very little financial wiggle room. In other words, i had to use the ecig because I didn't have any other nicotine choice. My money had been spent on it.

That's not to say that I couldn't buy a cheap pack of cigs if I wanted. I did break down and do that, actually, just about 3 days after starting the ecig. But it tapped into my food budget, it made me feel like a loser, and I didn't even enjoy the analogs. I haven't done it again. Do I want to? YES. I'm tempted almost every day -- especially after dinner. I LOVED my after-dinner and evening cigs. The ecig isn't the same in that regard, for some reason. But the angst is fleeting and I haven't given in.

Decide what you want, what you feel able to accomplish and can live with and go from there. Don't worry about anyone else's expectations except your own. Society, loved ones, even perfect strangers somehow feel all righteous and empowered about lecturing and making demands from smokers but I think that the first step in gaining the upper hand in the situation is to tell them all (literally or figuratively ) to sod off. We're grown adults and don't need to explain or justify ourselves to anyone. But we DO need to come up with a solid plan for ourselves. One that works and one that allows us to make mistakes sometimes.

Good luck!

 

[RioRanchoAggie]

Update purchased the cartomizers and some flavors I thought I might like... Beans saw your post just a tad late. Thanks everyone!

 

[CaptainCook]

You've got 36 mg nic-quid... So obviously its not a lack of nicotine that is causing you to keep smoking.... You say you are getting plenty of throat hit, so it sounds like your gear is putting out plenty of vapor....

The guy that got me vaping took over a year to completely quit smoking after he started vaping... Everyone's body is different.... Just hang in there, hit your local vape meeting if there is one near you, and keep after it one day at a time....

 

[CaptainCook]

Also one of the best things about ecf is people don't freak if you smoke a cig, or even a pack a day... Everyone here is/was a smoker, we all know how hard it is... Every single cig vaping keeps you from smoking is a win...

 

[MollieA]

Also one of the best things about ecf is people don't freak if you smoke a cig, or even a pack a day... Everyone here is/was a smoker, we all know how hard it is... Every single cig vaping keeps you from smoking is a win...

Gawd, that's so wonderful. What an inspirational post!

 

[RioRanchoAggie]

You've got 36 mg nic-quid... So obviously its not a lack of nicotine that is causing you to keep smoking.... You say you are getting plenty of throat hit, so it sounds like your gear is putting out plenty of vapor....

The guy that got me vaping took over a year to completely quit smoking after he started vaping... Everyone's body is different.... Just hang in there, hit your local vape meeting if there is one near you, and keep after it one day at a time....

I have some 36 yes but the day I used it my throat really hurt the next day. Is there a vape meeting in ABQ? I am in Rio Rancho.

 

[izabella]

Do you smoke unconsciously? I used to do that all the time, especially if I was immersed in a project for work. I'd look over, and half a pack would be up in smoke and I barely even remembered smoking them. I was just lighting them one after another automatically.

If you do that, make it a more conscious decision each time you choose to smoke. Put the cigs farther away from you, and keep your PV close at hand. That way, you'll start automatically reaching for the PV, and if you decided you really want the cigarette, vape for 10 or 15 minutes first, then have one.

Try making some changes to your routine. Do you smoke in the house? Can you vow to smoke only outside? That will disrupt your routine a bit. Can you promise yourself not to smoke in your car? Eliminate some of the places or times you smoke. You still allow yourself to smoke if need be, just not in the usual way so it doesn't feel the same.

Do you have specific triggers? My morning smoke with coffee was a huge one for me. So I found a coffee flavor vape that I liked, and I started vaping on that as soon as I woke up, while I was making coffee, and vaped vaped vaped all through the first cup. The nic in vaping builds more gradually in your system rather than giving you that quick hit that cigarettes do, so sometimes you have to give yourself that extra vaping time to let it build up and satisfy your desire for nic.

I also loved smoking while I was reading or at the computer. I spent my first week vaping glued to ECF, reading, reading, reading. I was trying to learn everything I could, but it ended up helping me switch my cigarette/computer/reading connection to vaping/computer/reading. Not only did it make it easier to vape instead of smoke if I was reading about vaping, but all the support and everything I learned here helped with motivation. I still sometimes go back and read through my first thread and all the encouraging words keep me going.

I also happened upon this thread and read the whole thing while vaping away. Hilarious, touching, educational, I laughed, I cried, I vaped the whole time and forgot about smoking: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/186222-confused-old-lady-50-yrs-marlboro-reds-grateful-any-help-advice-recommendations.html

Give it time to become a habit, while you break the others. I completely agree with CaptainCook - every cigarette you don't smoke is a WIN!

Good luck!