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Well, I don't believe it. I was around then and talked at great length with Tom at Capella. He said they DO NOT use diacetyl in ANY of their flavorings. If it were true there would have been a lot more uproar than one post and surely she would have backed it up with the proper paperwork to prove it. It was a trying time because FA was found to have a lot of diacetyl in their flavorings which they have since removed from most of them. It wouldn't make sense for Capella to use it in their Vanilla Custard when there are alternatives. Tom told me that none of the American flavoring vendors use diacetyl and haven't for many years.

Same thing i was told . No diacetyl in Capellas . I did read a few threads about this and they all come back to the source that said it and they happened to be another flavoring vendor so i wouldnt really trust that . I will definitley take Toms word over other sources .
 

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great post Boston with a lot of great information. So your basically using vinegar or ACV in your bakery type flavors and use Lime with your fruit flavorings? I get that right? Ok Will have to check the vinegar thread for sure thanks again for some great info.

Not lime hon, lemon....but it's possible you'd get the same result?
 

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Well, I don't believe it. I was around then and talked at great length with Tom at Capella. He said they DO NOT use diacetyl in ANY of their flavorings. If it were true there would have been a lot more uproar than one post and surely she would have backed it up with the proper paperwork to prove it. It was a trying time because FA was found to have a lot of diacetyl in their flavorings which they have since removed from most of them. It wouldn't make sense for Capella to use it in their Vanilla Custard when there are alternatives. Tom told me that none of the American flavoring vendors use diacetyl and haven't for many years.

I don't think they are using diacetyl directly but another chemical (acetoin) that turns into diacetyl over time from oxidation and light. A sample of Cap. VC was ordered and sent directly to a lab and a trace amount of Diacetyl was found.
 

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I have used my ignore button and will post wherever I see fit thank you very much.

Good day to all and thank you Boston for the tips for today. You're a sweetie.

AZPlumber thanks for always coming into threads with helpful info--you do it over and over again and help the newbies out and the rest of us alot.
 

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Thats the way you take it. If i do know im right it because its a simple fact . In the few times i say things for a fact its because i do know and am trying to help .other times i write my opinions . Iv easily read 3/4's of the threads in the subforum as well as other forums and well as test things everyday . Obviously your the only one that has a problem since iv helped many people make good juice and many like my posted recipes so go whine to someone else as well as appriciate me trying to help them . Vanilla custard is not really a standalone flavor if your looking for a rich full bodied juice . That is my opinion Its my one of my fav flavors and im not knocking it but it does much better as a mixing flavor . If someone writes something i dont agree with i respect that and have a conversation about our opinions which is what a forums for . Again if you dont like what i have to say then whine to yourself not to me . As for bam i didnt crucify him. I like bams. i disagree with him saying iPB is not great not because i dont respect his opinion but because he may be using a old flavoring . Flavorings do go bad and i was trying to determine if his was .If i came of mean about it im sorry but that wasnt my intention there . Like i said though just dont read my posts anymore and we will be happy and especially dont whine if you dont like my answer . This whole forum is to share with eachother to help eachother improve and i will continue doing so since other people do appropriate my help .

Talk about whining--- this is quite the rant. You just proved my point about your superiority complex. This is the last post of yours I willl ever see so you can stop your rant and BTW you don't know what other people say about you they don't want to tell you in the open forum like I did. :facepalm:
 

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Talk about whining--- this is quite the rant. You just proved my point about your superiority complex. This is the last post of yours I willl ever see so you can stop your rant and BTW you don't know what other people say about you they don't want to tell you in the open forum like I did. :facepalm:

You are something . Cant give up can you .The one ond only time i wish this was VF.Attack after attack and im the bad guy . lol
 
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Awwww snap! It just got serious in here!

*grabbing my popcorn and eGo while waiting patiently for the fireworks to begin*

Can't we all just get along? *munchin* *vaping*

You will be dissapointed because im not going there lol . "Can't we all just get along?" Thats what im saying .I dont understand it . Im like the nicest person and dont like fighting at all :)
 
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I don't think they are using diacetyl directly but another chemical (acetoin) that turns into diacetyl over time from oxidation and light. A sample of Cap. VC was ordered and sent directly to a lab and a trace amount of Diacetyl was found.

I still don't believe this, I believe it was because vendors make more money selling TFA than Capella and were perhaps protecting their interest. If it's the case then TFA has many flavors that contain acetoin and would test positive for diacetyl. Capella uses the best ingredients in the industry and nothing tastes like perfume, that tells me a lot! Capella doesn't kiss the vaping community's ars, they don't have to.
 

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I think Shilo and Str8 should go on a date:toast: I'll provide the vanilla custard!!!

Lmao .Wow you really went there . Im down only if the vanilla custard is not used as a standalone flavor and she pays :)

Im really a nice mellow ,easy to get along with guy .A superiority complex definitly does not describe my personality . Actually more the opposite lol .
 

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I still don't believe this, I believe it was because vendors make more money selling TFA than Capella and were perhaps protecting their interest. If it's the case then TFA has many flavors that contain acetoin and would test positive for diacetyl. Capella uses the best ingredients in the industry and nothing tastes like perfume, that tells me a lot! Capella doesn't kiss the vaping community's ars, they don't have to.

From all my searching i agree fully and i have been really researching the heck out of this . The person that said capellas VC had diacetyl was Linda at TPA . Someone said this in a old thread .There nothing that shows that it does though other than a competitors assumption . I do know that TPA doesnt use the same ingredients as Capellas . Capellas ingridients cost more which is why theres a price difference from what i was told which makes perfect sense as well as why Capellas doesnt have even the slightest perfume smell/taste in any flavor. A lot of Capellas ingridients are natural too .This also leads to the issue why vendors cant get Capellas cheaper for resale . They arent making much as is with the higher cost to manufacture .Capellas started out to make the cleanest highest quality healthy flavoring possible and be a leader in the dieting and health industry where tpa started out in a house making diy perfume and wizardry with ingridients sourced from china . Im not saying not to use TPA .I use some myself . Im just saying that Capellas is a leader in quality in the flavoring industry.
 
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I can smell eLiquid and tell if it has Capella in it or if it has TFA in it. Yes, there's that much difference and the main reason I started DIY. I WANTED the best ingredients even if it cost me a few cents more. It's ended up not costing me more though since I don't ever have to dump any down the drain.

I've never put a vendor's banner in my signature and seldom have I even given a review of a supplier except for Capella. There's no reason for me to promote a company that offers me nothing in return so I have never done it. But I feel DIYers need to experience Capella and see the difference instead of being swayed because TFA is what the vendors sell and it's easy to order when you buy other ecig supplies. There's just no comparison and I want people to make good mixes and not feel dependent on suppliers' juice. My ONLY reason to "promote" Capella is because it's the best and I'm in this forum to help new DIYers.
 
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