carto tank questions

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chimsweep

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I will share the little knowledge that I have acquired. I currently have the UDCT by Smoketech. The carto's with the flange on them are a great advantage. The U designation on the tank is for a screw on collar for the flange which secures the carto to the tank. Does not leak and hits like a beast, I have been very satisfied with its performance.
 

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Carto are different lengths.

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If this is the first time, get the U-DCT which has a flange so that you won't be lost. Also you may want to get a carto puncher as some of the empties come with no hole, one or two pre-punched. All depends on the viscosity of the liquid and if you have a puncher, it makes life much easier. Also no holes one are cheaper.
 

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Ooops....forgot to answer your questions....carto that are pre punched are for tanks for sure. Currently I am using Smoketech cartos with one hole. I usually vape 60/40, 50/50, 70/30, and it does fine with one hole. If you are using any thicker I would opt for the two hole system. Baditude has some great blogs on carto and tanks, look him up and click on his blogs.
 

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Welcome to the ECF boards, Mick. As far as I know, cartomizers for tanks come in 2 lengths. The standard neigh 35mm and the XL being 45mm long. The number of holes depends on the type of juice one is using. Some juices are thicker than others. The trick is to keep the inside of the carto wet without flooding it. I am currently experimenting with carto tanks, myself. They afford an excellent vaping experience, thus far.
 

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I'd love more info on this too...what's the main difference between cartos and clearos/tanks? The way the vapor is produced? The hardware?

Plus, I can't seem to make the picture work for me, and it looks VERY informative. How can I view it? Tried pasting it into my browser bar, but "Page Not Found" :( HEWP, please :)

I'm referring to the picture with the long line of tanks/clearos/cartos, etc. ^^
 
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Depends on your battery. I use Vision Spinner VV and opted for the single coil. If you have a high end like a Vamo or the like, I would say DC. Remember a little knowledge is a dangerous thing :p Baditude's blogs, he uses cartotanks exclusively, are full of info and experience.

I read his blog, and I am using a vision spinner right now also, i see one for sale for pretty cheap think ill pick up, with tank, drip tip, and 2 replacement carto's, its only like $15, ill give this one a shot
 

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Okay, just cartos:

You can use a cartomizer (“carto”) by itself by just putting a drip tip in the top or it can be used inside of a carto tank.

The liquid is held in the tank and through a hole in the cartomizer it is wicked into the batting/filler where it comes in contact with the heat coil and produces vapor.

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(the hole is so it can be used in a tank)

Cartos used on their own come in a variety of sizes, but for tanks they are usually 35mm (standard) or 45mm (XL or mega). The part measured is the tube, less the screw connection.
 
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Dual coil

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Dual Coils explained (from the discountvapers website)

“A dual coil carto consists of two coils of the same resistance. They are wired in parallel so the total resistance is half the resistance of either coil.

For example:

The total resistance of the 1.5ohm dual coil is 1.5ohms, but the resistance of either coil it contains is 3ohms. Both coils are actually 3.0ohms individually, together they are not 6.0, they are 1.5ohms

A 1.5ohm carto at 3.7V would be drawing 3.7/1.5=2.47 amps. But the single coil is burning at 3.7^2 / 1.5 = 9.13 Watts, while each coil of a dual coil 1.5ohm carto is burning at (3.7^2/1.5) / 2 = 4.57 watts. You are spliting the power between the two coils.

Although you can certainly get away with it, a 3.7v device is not ideal for a DC carto, you should use a 4.5v or better.”

This chart is on the discountvapers website as a reference for using single & dual coils. It may not be accurate due to there being more advanced devices available and vapers’ personal experiences.

Battery/VoltageSingle CoilDual Coil
510 (cig-a-like), 901, 8012.0 - 2.5 ohmsNO!
eGo Batteries 2.0 - 2.5 ohms1.5 - 1.7 ohms
3.7v (larger eGo, Go-Go, Riva)1.7 to 3.2 ohms1.5 - 1.7 ohms
5v (Variable Voltage)2.5 to 3.2 ohms2 ohms
6v (Variable Voltage)3.2 ohms and up2.5 ohms
7v (Variable Voltage)4.5 to 5 ohms3.0 ohms
 

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I'd love more info on this too...what's the main difference between cartos and clearos/tanks? The way the vapor is produced? The hardware?

Plus, I can't seem to make the picture work for me, and it looks VERY informative. How can I view it? Tried pasting it into my browser bar, but "Page Not Found" :( HEWP, please :)

I'm referring to the picture with the long line of tanks/clearos/cartos, etc. ^^
If you are referring to the picture that I posted, simply click on it to enlarge it.

Cartomizers and cartotanks differ from clearomizers, vivi nova tanks (clearotank) in the way that they bring juice to the heating coil. Cartomizers are filled with polly filler that looks like a cigarette filter, which baths the heating coil in juice. If in a tank, each time you vape more juice enters the cartomizer through tiny hole(s).

Clearomizers use silica strings to wick juice to the heating coil. They must be kept wet by frequently tilting it on its side to prevent dry hits.
 

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Awesome, Baditude. Very nice description, think I can picture it. Thank you! I wonder if the pic isn't clickable because I am not considered a full member?

And the pics help a lot, Ocelot! Not to be too girlie or blonde or stereotyping, but I see all those numbers, charts, and symbols and my eyes start to cross and my brain goes dead. I do grasp the concept of lower and higher ohms and their experiential results, but I haven't opened up to battery wattage or voltage and coils...it's gonna take me a while.

<3 Y'all rock--thanks again :)
 
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