Catfish atty mods.

[ukeman]

********Now that most of the Cyclones and Reactors are out the door what direction should Catfish go? Should I:

Stick with trying to stay cutting edge with the latest and greatest of the Dripper World?
Stick with the Cyclones and Reactors?
Shut up and do what we tell you to do when we tell you to do it?
Double my prices and turn this into a career?

I would love your feedback (although I do reserve the right to ignore it). What should I do differently? What is working well?

I started drilling atties because I was frustrated with the lack of selection of bottom fed choices. There were a few people drilling for themselves and maybe the occasional favor for a favor deal but no one had stepped up and said friend or enemy I will drill your atties. I do enjoy getting to take apart and blueprint how to get the best out of any atty through bottom feeding. I especially enjoy doing the atties that "can't be done without slotting the bushing"; Trident, zero slotting, bushing untouched less than 20 minutes. I enjoy the difficult atties and would love the chance to do a Veritas. I did a Magma clone last night but would love to convert an oem version.

So what do guy and ladies think I should do? I'm not fishing for a pat on the back, I'm just wondering what direction you would take.

get into an OEM model or three... there is a market right now for B/F RDA's like never before due to the sub ohms Reo contacts.

Funny thing though it seems Reo is such an institution, and most of the fan base is pretty conservative (imo)...
I put up a thread "SubOhms Reo vs Mech tubes" and got some " you don't need the rest, when you got the Best, and we don't need no damn tubes"...
There's a Reo culture out there; and lots of them scoffed at sub ohms vaping.
I don't knock them...

I used to be one before I went subohms 2 or 3 years ago, and hadn't picked one up until he got the sub ohms kits.
I remember the first runs of the metal Reo's ... I couldn't buy one for days and days... crashed site, it was impossible to f5 at the time.

When the s/o kits came out and Rob fitting all Reo's with them, I expected that Rob would sell thousands right off the bat, and the reason I posted that thread is because at .35 to .6 ohms I find them more consistent and maintenance free than the "damn mech tubes' that I've been chasing for the last couple years for sub ohm'ing.

All I'm saying is "why don't more sub ohms vapers jump on the Reo Grands" now that they are sub ohms capable?

sorry to get off track here, but anyway there "should" be a huge market for B/F RDA's and you might as well gear up with your own signature model.

Just don't fall into the pit that some did ie. the Zenith2 pre order.... gadzooks that guy took a fall with the huge demand and the 2nd runs got messed up at the machine shops. It was ugly.

 

[BobC]

I'm in for a cyclone, PM sent

 

[Chowderhead1972]

I wonder if doubling the price would be a good idea, unless you do some tweaking.

Take for example, a nice clone atty might be anywhere between 25 to 40usd

Add in the new doubled rate of $30, that's between 55 to 70. Now add in the shipping rate of $5.80 + own shipping to chowder.

Each atty is now 65 to 80. That's real pricey and starts going into an authentic price.

I do however think some people would be willing to pay for it still, although I'm not sure if the number would be large enough.

Certain tweaks can make the doubling in price work out a little better though; stuff like taking out return shipping altogether.

The other thing to take into account is you'll need to be competitively priced, and in this case, compared to Rob. So the attys that he already carries (eg RM4 and your atomic, RM5 and a zenith clone) would need to be priced competitively. Just a thought.

I see what you are driving at but even if you were to spend the $20 more for an original it would still need to be converted sending the difference to $50 plus shipping. When I first dove head first into Reoville I spent huge sums for bf cyclones and AFC's I try to keep my price down by chiseling sellers to death to avoid charging ridiculous to you guys. There is a lot more costs at play than just the atties.

 

[Chowderhead1972]

Gotcha Bobc
Will go out in the am.

 

[TheKiwi]

I see what you are driving at but even if you were to spend the $20 more for an original it would still need to be converted sending the difference to $50 plus shipping. When I first dove head first into Reoville I spent huge sums for bf cyclones and AFC's I try to keep my price down by chiseling sellers to death to avoid charging ridiculous to you guys. There is a lot more costs at play than just the atties.

Whoops. I hope I didn't come off the wrong way.

Personally I would pay for it (lol I just spent 100+ on the cyclone and AFC ). I was just playing the devil's advocate and presenting some possible POV that other folks might have on it. I just think that before you make your final business decision, it'll be best for you to consider all POV. At the end if you decide to double the bf modding fees, I think you can do so knowing full well that you've done all the due diligence at arriving at your decision.

Me, I'm just glad a good ole murican is getting a fair remuneration for an honest day's work.

 

[Chowderhead1972]

I'm not bent if that's what you talking about. I'm good. Seriously

I might raise my prices a little on the modding fee but I realize at the end of the day money IS a contributing factor.

 

[Chowderhead1972]

***** inventory update******
VA Cyclone (2013 version cupped deck) bottom fed --2 left---
Madz Modz Reactor-- bottom fed-- 5 left
Your choice $50.80 shipped priority

 

[Chowderhead1972]

get into an OEM model or three... there is a market right now for B/F RDA's like never before due to the sub ohms Reo contacts.

Funny thing though it seems Reo is such an institution, and most of the fan base is pretty conservative (imo)...
I put up a thread "SubOhms Reo vs Mech tubes" and got some " you don't need the rest, when you got the Best, and we don't need no damn tubes"...
There's a Reo culture out there; and lots of them scoffed at sub ohms vaping.
I don't knock them...

I used to be one before I went subohms 2 or 3 years ago, and hadn't picked one up until he got the sub ohms kits.
I remember the first runs of the metal Reo's ... I couldn't buy one for days and days... crashed site, it was impossible to f5 at the time.

When the s/o kits came out and Rob fitting all Reo's with them, I expected that Rob would sell thousands right off the bat, and the reason I posted that thread is because at .35 to .6 ohms I find them more consistent and maintenance free than the "damn mech tubes' that I've been chasing for the last couple years for sub ohm'ing.

All I'm saying is "why don't more sub ohms vapers jump on the Reo Grands" now that they are sub ohms capable?

sorry to get off track here, but anyway there "should" be a huge market for B/F RDA's and you might as well gear up with your own signature model.

Just don't fall into the pit that some did ie. the Zenith2 pre order.... gadzooks that guy took a fall with the huge demand and the 2nd runs got messed up at the machine shops. It was ugly.

Well said. Couldn't agree more on most of that. Regular tube mech mods have virtually nothing on a current Reo Grand any longer.

 

[Chowderhead1972]

Btw all Cyclones and Reactors have shipped and will be in your mailboxes Saturday. This does not apply to the three orders waiting on AFC's which are scheduled to arrive This Saturday and will ship back out to their owners immediately.

 

[brookj1986]

Btw all Cyclones and Reactors have shipped and will be in your mailboxes Saturday. This does not apply to the three orders waiting on AFC's which are scheduled to arrive This Saturday and will ship back out to their owners immediately.

Do you have tracking for those of us that like to stalk our vape mail

If not, no big deal, I'll make multiple trips to the mailbox reach told I take the puppy out.

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[Chowderhead1972]

For tracking info send me a pm with you zip code.

 

[Vapeaholic]

Chowder! Can you Pm me a price to mod a Divo?

 

[brookj1986]

Chowder, you ever modded a brass monkey?

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[Chowderhead1972]

Divo deck is similar to the Cyclone, right? No problem $15

Brass monkey looks very similar to the Helois, I would center bore 3/4s of the way and intersect at the deck. Might even try to angle down. $15. For the million dollar question: what is the "T" center post made of?

 

[brookj1986]

Supposedly is ss.

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[Chowderhead1972]

Supposedly is ss.

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Sweet! Send it in.

 

[hildicat]

Hey CH just got clones of the veritas and stillare. Gonna play with them both today but ultimately want to send them to you for bf mods. Do you have experience with either of these? The stillare is supposedly all ss, the veritas I'm not so sure, but I would like to try it anyways.

 

[NatGasMan]

Hey Chowder, loving my Atomic. So much so, I was wondering if you had any left? Also, my Plume Veil clone is supposed to be here today. I will send it to you tomorrow probably. I would think you will have it Monday or Tuesday.

 

[brookj1986]

Sweet! Send it in.

Will do. Trying to remember if the helios is ss or brass. I LOVE my helios. one of my favorite all around vapes, though it's not gotten much love since I got bottom feeders.

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[Chowderhead1972]

Stillare I have done no problem.. The Veritas is going to be fun, but I will do my best.