CE3 leaking?
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Okay so I just got home and I tried a little experiment with my problem CE3 and another one that wasn't giving me problems by putting them vertical upside down with the mouthpiece end down...Leaking started to occur through the needle hole. I don't really understand why as I basically am doing it step by step with the youtube guide from outlaw vaper. Any suggestions?
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So I wiped them down with a tissue and placed them upside down again...no leaking now...what the heck? lol. I'm so confused now.
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So I'm vaping my original "leaking" ce3 and it's not leaking anymore...I'm so confused. Think maybe there was somehow more air pressure in it before or something? I'd just like some answers because I'm being way more careful with the ce3 when filling than outlaw vaper is with his in his videos and I don't know what I'm doing wrong if I am indeed doing anything wrong at all...
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So I wiped them down with a tissue and placed them upside down again...no leaking now...what the heck? lol. I'm so confused now.
**EDIT 2**
So I'm vaping my original "leaking" ce3 and it's not leaking anymore...I'm so confused. Think maybe there was somehow more air pressure in it before or something? I'd just like some answers because I'm being way more careful with the ce3 when filling than outlaw vaper is with his in his videos and I don't know what I'm doing wrong if I am indeed doing anything wrong at all...
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Just a guess, but the puncture hole probably sealed with the minimal pressure of the liquid in it I'll also guess it will start leaking once again, possibly before being refilled again.
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Just my opinion, worth what you're paying for it. Your results and mileage may vary. No warranty or guarantee is expressed or implied. Proceed at your own risk.
If the time it didn't leak was when the tissue was in it, it could have helped seal....I doubt it but it's a guess. I can only add that you aren't really puncturing it.....it is pre-holed or whatever. The inner hole is close to the air post and should go in with very little resistance. Also, only the needle itself should go through, if the blue part of the needle hits the seal, you probably tore it. If you are actually poking through and creating a new hole, you have two holes and the one that is pre-poked has a flap that I believe is supposed to help close it off a bit. However, I am not an engineer so these are just spit balls to help you out.
I also agree with Awsum though, it will likely leak again.
I have only had one of about 25 leak when not in use and that was one of the originals and I had pulled the seal so much, it was just done. All we can really do here as a group is guess but for your sanity, I would use it for parts (not the seal of course) and move on.
I also agree with Awsum though, it will likely leak again.
I have only had one of about 25 leak when not in use and that was one of the originals and I had pulled the seal so much, it was just done. All we can really do here as a group is guess but for your sanity, I would use it for parts (not the seal of course) and move on.
I've started using a real 20ga hypodermic needle to make the initial puncture after having too many seals get torn from the blunt tipped needles. That seems to have cured that problem for me, anyway.
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I agree..it sounds like a bad air hole letting air in causing a leak. The first punch through is critical on these things. Get it wrong then it won't form a proper seal and you will get leaks.
If you don't have a hypodermic needle, a small sewing needle or pin may work.I've started using a real 20ga hypodermic needle to make the initial puncture after having too many seals get torn from the blunt tipped needles. That seems to have cured that problem for me, anyway.
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I'm not so sure about that. If it were the case of the needle hole becoming damaged why wouldn't it just leak immediately? Almost every one i've had leak has either been fine for the first fill or leaked when the juice level gets low. Why would wait for that? I've also never had any leaking through the top of the unit.
Okay, I think for some reason many of you are getting mixed signals from my posts...Let me clear it up so hopefully there are no misunderstandings...
Both of my CE3s were initially punctured very slowly and carefully with a small sewing needle as I found many individuals on ECF said they had better luck with that. One CE3 I filled with Ice Menthol flavor, the other with Watermelon flavor. I took both of the CE3s with me to work, was puffing on the Watermelon casually through the day when I noticed more juice flowing out of the battery end.
I normally take it to be condensation but it was a bit much. I wiped it off, took some more puffs, looked again and it came back. I then took that flavor off and replaced it with my Ice Menthol flavor and was happily puffing until I got out of work. Before I left work, I checked the Watermelon flavor and saw liquid dripping in the mouthpiece end but it was NOWHERE near the needle hole. The needle hole was dry as a bone in fact.
Once home, I placed both upside down (mouthpiece on the bottom) and to my surprise both were leaking through the mouthpiece side, and to my surprise (and horror), both were dripping from the needle hole. I'd like to point out that I've been using CE3s utilizing the method that Outlaw Vaper outlined in his youtube videos + puncture with a small sewing needle and never before had any issues.
When I saw the dripping from the needle holes, I wiped both CE3s down with tissue and again placed them upside down (mouthpiece end on bottom). Again, to my surprise NEITHER were leaking anymore. I proceeded to start puffing with my Watermelon flavor (which had originally been leaking) and it ceased to leak.
I have no clue what happened, or why it was leaking through the needle hole since I am 1000% more steady and careful with the whole refill process than even Outlaw Vaper is in his videos.
There was no tissue blocking the needle hole, but I can definitely see perhaps the liquid blocking it up. I have several problems and questions though, such as why was my needle hole leaking, how much more careful can I be, and is there any way to make it more foolproof?
My point exactly! This is like a freaking mystery. I know what it's like to screw up a CE3. I screwed up two on my first pack not knowing what I was doing. But I've since done my research and have had good success until this weird fluke.
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Oh, and I just refilled the Watermelon flavor CE3 and so far no leaking from either end. I'll update if I notice any leaks or anything. So far so good. I'll keep in mind if it does leak to keep for parts but I'm still a bit nervous about frankensteining a CE3. I haven't even fully taken one apart yet, just cleaned by injecting with water as per Outlaw Vaper's videos.
If anyone else knows of more or better tutorial videos please let me know!
Both of my CE3s were initially punctured very slowly and carefully with a small sewing needle as I found many individuals on ECF said they had better luck with that. One CE3 I filled with Ice Menthol flavor, the other with Watermelon flavor. I took both of the CE3s with me to work, was puffing on the Watermelon casually through the day when I noticed more juice flowing out of the battery end.
I normally take it to be condensation but it was a bit much. I wiped it off, took some more puffs, looked again and it came back. I then took that flavor off and replaced it with my Ice Menthol flavor and was happily puffing until I got out of work. Before I left work, I checked the Watermelon flavor and saw liquid dripping in the mouthpiece end but it was NOWHERE near the needle hole. The needle hole was dry as a bone in fact.
Once home, I placed both upside down (mouthpiece on the bottom) and to my surprise both were leaking through the mouthpiece side, and to my surprise (and horror), both were dripping from the needle hole. I'd like to point out that I've been using CE3s utilizing the method that Outlaw Vaper outlined in his youtube videos + puncture with a small sewing needle and never before had any issues.
When I saw the dripping from the needle holes, I wiped both CE3s down with tissue and again placed them upside down (mouthpiece end on bottom). Again, to my surprise NEITHER were leaking anymore. I proceeded to start puffing with my Watermelon flavor (which had originally been leaking) and it ceased to leak.
I have no clue what happened, or why it was leaking through the needle hole since I am 1000% more steady and careful with the whole refill process than even Outlaw Vaper is in his videos.
There was no tissue blocking the needle hole, but I can definitely see perhaps the liquid blocking it up. I have several problems and questions though, such as why was my needle hole leaking, how much more careful can I be, and is there any way to make it more foolproof?
My point exactly! This is like a freaking mystery. I know what it's like to screw up a CE3. I screwed up two on my first pack not knowing what I was doing. But I've since done my research and have had good success until this weird fluke.
*EDIT*
Oh, and I just refilled the Watermelon flavor CE3 and so far no leaking from either end. I'll update if I notice any leaks or anything. So far so good. I'll keep in mind if it does leak to keep for parts but I'm still a bit nervous about frankensteining a CE3. I haven't even fully taken one apart yet, just cleaned by injecting with water as per Outlaw Vaper's videos.
If anyone else knows of more or better tutorial videos please let me know!
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When you placed the CE3 upside down air was able to enter/exit the barrel through the normal path of the coil/wick assembly. This probably equalized any pressure differentials and stopped the leak. It's actually kind of a delicate balance and minor little things, that I haven't been able to identify, seem to make them leak. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has success stopping a leak by turning them upside down for a little while.
my CE3's frequently would be stored on angles, so there may be something there. However, I've had units (specifically the new ones) leak on me and then stop. I'd have them sitting on the desk, wipe them clean (around the battery threads) and then leave them sit for a minute only to get gooey again, wipe them down and now suddenly they stop.
I've noticed that these newer CE3s produce quite a few bubbles when you vape them. The only thing I can think of as far as the inconsistency of the leaking is that they're working through a bubble. I mean its not as if a lot of juice is just dumping out, just that through the air hole it drips and eventually soaks the threads which will leak down the battery. But suddenly it stops... when the bubble is finally freed maybe?
I've noticed that these newer CE3s produce quite a few bubbles when you vape them. The only thing I can think of as far as the inconsistency of the leaking is that they're working through a bubble. I mean its not as if a lot of juice is just dumping out, just that through the air hole it drips and eventually soaks the threads which will leak down the battery. But suddenly it stops... when the bubble is finally freed maybe?
It all still boils down to equalizing the pressure, inside to outside, so that surface tension can take over to prevent leaks. If the pressure inside is higher than outside, it'll leak until that pressure equalizes...assuming the wicks are intact.
Just my opinion, worth what you're paying for it. Your results and mileage may vary. No warranty or guarantee is expressed or implied. Proceed at your own risk.
Just my opinion, worth what you're paying for it. Your results and mileage may vary. No warranty or guarantee is expressed or implied. Proceed at your own risk.
So I placed the Watermelon CE3 (originally leaking CE3) upside down before I went to bed and woke up to a gooey mess everywhere...Looks like the needle hole is fudged up but for the life of me I don't know what it is I did...
Anyway, I just filled up a brand new CE3 with Watermelon. I'm using a sewing needle that is slightly smaller than the blunt tipped syringe that comes with the CE3s but trying to insert the syringe still gives me some resistance...Anyone have any tips or tricks to both get a good seal and make this as painless as possible?
Anyway, I just filled up a brand new CE3 with Watermelon. I'm using a sewing needle that is slightly smaller than the blunt tipped syringe that comes with the CE3s but trying to insert the syringe still gives me some resistance...Anyone have any tips or tricks to both get a good seal and make this as painless as possible?
You're doing it, basically, the same way I do. There's no other way I know of at the moment. Those seals can tear with no apparent reason at any time. I've had them tear, and leak, on first fill when using a blunt needle for the task. That's what got me to try the hypo needle for the initial puncture. There will be resistance, you're forcing a blunt tip through a needle hole, not a drilled hole the side of the needle, but it should work OK as long as the blunt tip doesn't have any rough spots.
Yeah, I get the seals wet and push them in with the drip tip to a clearo..........I also usually push it in when they are new.
I also wonder if you are covering the hole of the drip tip or mouth-ee piece-ee thing-er guy when you put it back in.....that might push air into the CE3
I don't worry about pushing air into a CE3, it flows out the coil end, assuming there's no liquid in the middle of course, and even then it'll just bubble up toward the wicks/coil and vent out. When filling them I don't bother purging the syringe any more either for that same reason. When you fill them the air inside flows out through the opening below the coil anyway, so another drop or two of air doesn't really matter much. It is a good idea to fill them slowly, but other than that a little more air going in won't hurt anything.
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