Chalice - MarkBugs Bottom Feeder Atomiser - Official thread
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for me I'd say set up for side mount coil with the air hole in the center between the posts instead of closer to the one post
Lets not forget that inside of the base are only mecanical contacts (no wire) and the best way to build it and keep it small is the actual.
But may I ask why it will be better if you will have the side wick?
Whatever you decide ~ please make a whole boat load of them so they are available on the site for a couple of days
Now, that will be a realy big improvement!!!
We will try to, actualy this is the only thing that we have in mind ... to have products on stock most of the time!
the reason I say set up for a side mounted coil is, the most flavor and least harsh vapor will come from having the coil right at the air inlet, less than a mm distance away, this gives the incoming airflow a jet stream that hits the coil and extracts the best flavor without adding any harshness to the vape... if the air is allowed to enter the chamber and expand and lose velocity before hitting the coil, or if it doesn't actually even hit the coil and just extracts vapor from the chamber this will add harshness and throat hit to the vape.
just about every really great tasting, high flavor profile atty will follow this rule. the kayfuns have become wildly popular because of the incredible amount of flavor they give without any harshness, and they do this by having the air inlet right below the coil, then the air outlet right above the coil... this creates a slip stream flow of laminar air around the coil and straight out the drip tip, extracting the best flavor. most side air hole atties like this are already at a disadvantage because of the fact that the airflow is more like an L, it must bend from inlet to exit, and the coil being so far inboard really takes it out of the main airflow stream, your only extracting vapor from the chamber and not directly from the coil. it does make a big difference. if you look at what are regarded as the best tasting atties you'll see that they virtually all follow this design. tiny chamber combined with jet stream of air right on the coil. a larger chamber reduces velocity and reduces peak flavor and adds harshness as a general rule.
I've used my chalice with a Z coil and a side mounted one and honestly, for me the side coil tastes much better and has no harshness that the z coil does give. if you really want to see then try it, 2 same exact coils, but one mounted right at the airhole and the other mounted far away like the z... pay attention to sweetness and harshness and you will see what I'm talking about... now I'm not talking about a night and day difference here, the difference is fairly subtle but it is def there and it's def a difference for the better with the jetstream of inlet hitting the coil directly. everything else remains the same, chamber size and center drain, everything works just as well with a side coil as the z, just flavor is improved. to me all it really needs is a little difference in the posts, allowing more flexibility in the builds
I'm not sure how much the drip tip adds to the price--but I would appreciate the option of purchase without a drip tip.
I don't care for metal drip tips and the ones from the Chalices I already own are just sitting in a drawer.
Thanks for asking for suggestions/opinions!
I don't care for metal drip tips and the ones from the Chalices I already own are just sitting in a drawer.
Thanks for asking for suggestions/opinions!
the changes would be minimal, mainly just repositioning the direction of the holes in the posts, everything else remains exactly as-is
are these 2 posts threaded into the base? can the one post be turned/unthreaded a bit? maybe just a thin washer under to reposition it? it's really just one post that would need to be turned a little bit. past that I'd also recommend setting up he post holes to accommodate slightly larger wire too, the holes are a bit limiting, well not just the holes but the holes combined with how high the hole is, the screw can't catch well with fatter wires...
I wouldn't change a .......n thing . You already changed the screws - that was my biggest niggle. But since your asking
IMO the screw on cap is perfect, the air flow is perfect for the center Z coil. The center drain and feed right beneath the coil is the best there is. Orings leak and wear out and there is no need to rotate the airhole when you have a Z coil.
The slot in one post would be great but not if it compromises durability.
I think side mounted coils are easier to build but part of the greatness of a chalice, IMO, comes from your ability to tame the beast and perfect your building skills to run a Z coil. Making it your bich if you know what I mean rather than compromising drainage and feeding so coiling is easy. How often do we need to coil it anyway - once a month ?
The 1/16" airhole was great.
I prefer it to be a somewhat expert level exotic rather than just a better made cyclone. I already have them and they too are great for my "beater" mods
. You already changed the screws - that was my biggest niggle. But since your asking IMO the screw on cap is perfect, the air flow is perfect for the center Z coil. The center drain and feed right beneath the coil is the best there is. Orings leak and wear out and there is no need to rotate the airhole when you have a Z coil.
The slot in one post would be great but not if it compromises durability.
I think side mounted coils are easier to build but part of the greatness of a chalice, IMO, comes from your ability to tame the beast and perfect your building skills to run a Z coil. Making it your bich if you know what I mean rather than compromising drainage and feeding so coiling is easy. How often do we need to coil it anyway - once a month ?
The 1/16" airhole was great.
I prefer it to be a somewhat expert level exotic rather than just a better made cyclone. I already have them and they too are great for my "beater" mods
I'm also a huge fan of the screw on top. I think the 1/16" air hole works extremely well for me too. I'm ok with the z-coil (although it took me a few tries to get it right) but wouldn't mind the versatility to try a side-mount build as well. Lastly, slightly larger wire holes would be great too. OR, if you don't change a thing, I'm still in for another one
Master of Bassets...and not much else.
Master of Bassets...and not much else.
that is the chalice...
I'm not complaining or anything, I'll still take the chalice just the way it is, but since it was asked what I would change, that would be it, if not I'm still very happy with it even as-is
Love my Chalice as is. I just want a rebuildable tank atty in hybrid mode for my WE2.
And maybe a 21mm dripper too.
And maybe a 21mm dripper too.
+1 for philips head screws.
also not fond of the Z-coil, but that's prolly a lost cause.
also not fond of the Z-coil, but that's prolly a lost cause.
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