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rave

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The future is where I'd like to be. Flying around in a space ship exploring new worlds, no traffic, bigger guns, computers that turn on lights for you and turns up the heat just by telling it too. Ah, life would be good.

:lol: I just realized that, except for the "flying around in a space ship" part, it sounds an awful lot like my place!!
 

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Your computer turns you lights and heat on with a simple command? :confused:

I'm talking about BIGGER guns, like laser pistols, photon torpedos, phaser rifles. :p
Ah, who needs that junk. A cap & ball .45 is all that you need. :)

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Jerry, I'm with you as far as a wheel gun is concerned, but I prefer my double action .357 snub nose. Easy to conceal and lots of stopping ability with soft tipped loads. I'm a '49er, too, this century '49er you smart a$$es, LOL.

Terry, I have a computer program that controls my lights and the thermostats are programmable already. No, it doesn't respond to voice commands, but I suspect it would be a wise guy type if it did talk. If you want, you can add remote control from your smart phone and also control a burglar/fire/video surveillance system as well.

One of my favorite pass times is thinking about how I would explain the world, today, to somebody from the 1850's or so. Then, when I get tired of that little game, I think about how somebody would try to explain the world of 2150 to me. I can go basic if needed, but I really appreciate things like indoor plumbing and central heating/cooling operated by a thermostat. Being able to take a nice, warm, shower every day is another thing I know I'd miss.

Now, about those corsets.....
 

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The future is where I'd like to be. Flying around in a space ship exploring new worlds, no traffic, bigger guns, computers that turn on lights for you and turns up the heat just by telling it too. Ah, life would be good.

How do you know it'd be like that, though? Maybe the world would be so polluted that people couldn't go outdoors, and society would have degenerated to just surviving. There's no telling. I'm with Rave -- I'll stick with what I know and be happy for the modern conveniences we have.
 

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I got my drawing book today so I might be scarce for awhile. At first glance I'm a little disappointed because what I saw was stuff I already saw on vids and I didn't see any patterns or drawings that I want to try but it was just a skim through so we'll see.

I hope you find it useful.

I've never related to drawing books. I remember as a kid, I had something, probably called How to Draw Horses. I learned a few things about proportions from it that I still use, but doing exercises from a book was a drag, and I never liked the results. I used the few items I got from the book and went off on my own to experiment and learn. I'm still doing that.
 

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Thanks, Uncle & Terry, for the help with the new project. Uncle, I saw those drawings, but I don't trust drawings, so I looked for photos of just the phase of the gallop I want. A few came close, but Muybridge's were best. Also, there's a motion sequence of his photos that I think is on Wikipedia that I stared at for a while. I wish you could slow the motion more. It just goes at the speed they decided, but I wanted to have his galloping horse sequence where you could slow it down or even stop it at a certain frame, so you can really study it.

Those explanations of how a horse's feet fall in certain gaits never made any sense to me. I just can't picture it from the words. I can see a horse doing a gait and identify it, I can ride the gait and identify it from the feel, and I can look at a photo and usually tell what gait the horse is doing, but those explanation are too confusing.

Anyway, here's Muybridge's pictures.



I think the stance I want is either 11 or 13, probably 11. In 12, his hind legs are too close together, and I don't think that looks as good.

What surprised me is that the legs on the left are behind the legs on the right. I didn't know this happened in that particular phase of the gallop, so I would have drawn it wrong. I've seen Muybridge's photos many times before, too, but never noticed this.

One interesting thing I discovered today was, after looking on the Internet at many photos of horses galloping to find the stance I wanted with the horse nice and clear, not many of the photos had this particular phase of the gallop. Two reasons occurred to me and I wonder if either is valid. First, this stage compared to all the others is only a short moment in time, so it's likely that a photographer will catch some other stance. Second, is this stance clumsier looking than the others, and that's why photographers prefer photos with a different stance?

This photo …


… is the best I found. I'll be able to see here how the muscles bunch in that particular stance.

I decided on this phase of the gallop rather than the ones where the legs are more closed up together because I thought it gave more of a sense of freedom and openness with the open legs.

Now all I have to do is figure out the lighting. Terry, that site helped a lot. Thanks so much. I dragged a few pictures off it to contemplate.
 

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I was thinking about all your Roombas when she said about computers to turn the lights off and on.

Now, if I just had one to do all of these danged picture windows and sliding glass doors, I'd be a happy camper. 'Course, that's what daughters are for, right? :laugh:
 

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Rave, I like your winter snow scenes. We're having the same weather. I went out a while ago to scrape snow off the car and move it so when they come back to plow the driveway, maybe they'll do my parking space, and there was over 6" on the car. The mail hadn't come yet, so I am not going out again in the dark. Earlier, I put the trash out and then brought in the can after they picked it up. I thought of taking a photographic walk in the snow, but decided to stay inside and research the new art project.


All this research is getting to me, but now I know how to arrange the horse's legs. Next is to find a night scene with a full moon partly obscured by clouds to see how the light is. I'm too impatient to wait for the real thing to happen here. We have so many overcast days here, it might be July before the proper sky happens.
 

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You'll have to decide on which horse collar w/o my help. I know next to nothing about driving. You could join a horse driving group on the Internet and ask them. Are there reviews up with people's input about the plusses and minuses of each? That's often how I choose products when I'm unsure which to get.

Speaking of products, what kind of coffeemaker did Hubby get you? Do you like it?

I assume if you need to use the stud chain when leading Nevada that he's trying to go faster than you want him to. A good tactic is to walk along with him, and when he gets in front of where you want him, make him back up. I like to use a whip on the horse's chest for this. You don't have to beat the horse -- just tap, and if nothing happens, tap harder. If still nothing happens, then a smart swat. Make him back about 3 steps, then go forward again. In about 3 steps, he may get too fast again, so you repeat the process. Soon he learns to back from a gentle tap instead of having to be more forceful. And if you do this every time you lead him, backing him every single time he gets ahead of you, soon he stops doing that. The secret is to be totally consistent. Don't do it sometimes and not others. And expect your progress to the round pen to be painfully slow at first. You will be going backward as much as forward. When he responds better than before, put him back in his pen and feed him hay or some other goody like a carrot. Till he leads well, there's no point in trying to do anything else with him, just focus on that. Parelli said something like, you need to take as long as it takes. Taking the time to do it right actually takes less time than constantly fighting. I bet if you are totally consistent with the leading, he'll learn it in about a week if you do it every day for about 1/2 hour. Even if you don't do it every day, he can still learn. In fact, I found out something interesting when I was training Penny. Sometimes we'd work on something, and she wouldn't quite get it. I'd return to the barn after a day off, and she'd get it the first try! What did she do? Study the problem while she was grazing? Anyway, I've heard other horse people say they found this out, too, so sometimes, I think you make more progress with less work when you skip a day of training. Of course, it takes longer because you aren't working on it daily, but it actually takes less working hours. Horses have excellent memories, and once a horse gets an idea, it sticks with him -- for good and bad. Bad habits are hard to break for this reason.

Once you have the leading problem under control -- and he may look like he learned it but test you from time to time to be sure the rules are still the same -- just like a kid -- then you can move on to round pen work.

To get him to turn toward you, use a long lead line -- about 12 feet for a horse, but you can probably get away with one a little shorter for a mini. Use a whip that'll reach him from the end of the line. Make sure he's not afraid of the whip but respects it. You should be able to gently rub him all over with the whip without him getting nervous and moving away from it. The whip is a signal, not a threat.

Once he's used to the whip and knows to go forward when you wave it at him, have him circle you at the end of the lead. Ask him to slow or stop with a wiggling of the rope. Meanwhile, point the whip at the point of his hip -- where that bone protrudes. He should move his hindquarters away from the whip while you pull his head toward you, and that'll get him to turn toward you. Once he gets that idea, use the whip less and less. At first, you may have to tap or prod him with it to get him to turn his .... away. Then you may just point it at the hip and he'll turn away. Finally, you can just move, leaning a bit toward his ...., and he'll turn away. Then you can try it without the lead attached, once he does it w/o you pulling his head toward you and just from leaning toward his ..... Don't move your feet more than one step. The idea is for him to move his feet and you to stand in one spot while you make him move.

If you try this, tell me if it works. it worked with Penny, but I had an instructor hovering, telling me if my timing was off, and timing of signals is important. It's really better to have someone on the spot to watch you work with him and tell you when you made a mistake right then. At least that's how I learn.

This sort of training worked very well indeed for me! My guy would actually curve his ribcage away from me when I pointed at it. He was very limber that way. The funny thing is, he knew what would earn him a swat on the ribs, and if he really, really wanted to do whatever it was, he curved his body away, first, then did it anyway! He would even kinda wince in anticipation. It was all I could do not to laugh, and swat anyway. I was so lucky, an equine with a sense of humor!!!
 
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