CHIT CHAT in VOLTVILLE

[Uncle]

@ "Rave" - If I could "like" your post more then once I would a +1000 times . . . AND - As for seeing "Your" Creations more then once - as "You" know by NOW - No Problem Here "My" Friend . . .

@ "Renolizzie" - Lots of GINGER & some Chineese Hot Mustard - VERY GOOD ! ! ! Especially when feeling a Cold/Flu coming on - Ginger to settle the stomach and has other properties to help the body and as for the "mustard" think about how it will CLEAR "Your" Sinus' . . . Just Sayin' . . .

 

[3mg Meniere]

0mg, I agree that nonfiction writing is a lot different than fiction because you are supposed to suppress emotion and look at the subject objectively. That can make it harder to express passion.

Part of the expression of passion is in demonstrating that people interpret what they read based on their past experiences. And there is plenty of material for that! LOL!

When I first got here I was taking a long break to resolve issues in my personal life. When I got back to work, I ripped it apart!! LOL.

 

[Renolizzie]

@ "Rave" - If I could "like" your post more then once I would a +1000 times . . . AND - As for seeing "Your" Creations more then once - as "You" know by NOW - No Problem Here "My" Friend . . .

@ "Renolizzie" - Lots of GINGER & some Chineese Hot Mustard - VERY GOOD ! ! ! Especially when feeling a Cold/Flu coming on - Ginger to settle the stomach and has other properties to help the body and as for the "mustard" think about how it will CLEAR "Your" Sinus' . . . Just Sayin' . . .

Raven really is amazing.

I really like Mexican food for a cold but Chinese is next best!!!! A good hot salsa and some carne asada with soft, delicious corn tortillas, while not a cure, certainly helps when you have a cold.

 

[SandySu]

Raven really is amazing.

I really like Mexican food for a cold but Chinese is next best!!!! A good hot salsa and some carne asada with soft, delicious corn tortillas, while not a cure, certainly helps when you have a cold.

Chinese food can be spicy, too. Maybe that would help.

 

[3mg Meniere]

Raven really is amazing.

I really like Mexican food for a cold but Chinese is next best!!!! A good hot salsa and some carne asada with soft, delicious corn tortillas, while not a cure, certainly helps when you have a cold.

I usually don't like menthol vapes, but for a sore throat it helps. I also have some ginger juice for attacking the sinuses with an atom bomb. Haven't had a cold since February when I started.

 

[Renolizzie]

Well, since it is a thirty minute drive to get Mexican food and Hubby drives right by the Chinese place, Chinese it will be

If I feel really crappy tomorrow, I can take myself out to lunch in Fernley where the good Mexican food is.

 

[SandySu]

Part of the expression of passion is in demonstrating that people interpret what they read based on their past experiences. And there is plenty of material for that! LOL!

When I first got here I was taking a long break to resolve issues in my personal life. When I got back to work, I ripped it apart!! LOL.

I can't see how people could interpret what they read NOT based on their past experiences. I think we interpret everything in terms of past experiences. We have expectations of how something will be, and often, that influences how we see it. I think this is a very interesting area of psychology. People only see part of what's there, and then they fill in the gaps from their imagination. Take, for instance, several people who witness a car accident. When the police question them separately about what they saw, each person gives a different version. This is really interesting to me, how people don't really see what is there as much as they see what they expect to see. Memories are distorted the same way. Fascinating stuff! If we can't even remember accurately, what's reality?

 

[rave]

So true. That put me in a difficult place. I had to achieve a balance in my writing, since non-fiction requires more objectivity. Fear of harsh criticism, or even retribution made it difficult to express myself. Using my work to discharge my anger, rather than having publication and $$$ kept me going. Finally, I got to a place where I was more sure of myself, the anger went away, the fear dwindled, then I had to face motivational problems. Losing the internet for a few days helped!! Having a picture of Alexander Solzhenitsyn above my desk helps, too.

Anyway, I have work to do. I know exactly what I have to do, and it is boring, so I'll turn my music on.

Oh-- by the way, those pictures are beautiful, and a very good illustration of what you were talking about.

I can't even imagine how difficult it would be to have writing as your primary method of expression, and then having to write non-fiction. That has to be frustrating. I too admire your fortitude; but, we all do what we have to do. Hang in there.

I guess we're in agreement, then, that some sort of unrest can motivate the best art. I suppose this is hard for scientists to measure, but those of us who feel a creative urge know it from experience. The fear you felt certainly lends dynamics to your paintings. I especially like the wood duck and alligator. Why? Maybe it's because I see the action and the threat, but it also looks to me like the duck will escape. Thanks for sharing, Rave.

Oh yeah. The duck escapes, at least for now. See the smile?

I found living in the city and the suburbs really stressful. Living in the country is a lot of work but it does suit me. I always think I should try harder to have friends but apparently I am just not a friends person. I just don't like most people. I do have some exceptions

How would you have time for friends in the conventional sense with all that you do? You have your hubby, and your critters, and us. If that is fulfilling enough for you, then I don't really see the sense in actively seeking other friendships.

I got the trainer over to the house and he helped me figure out the breeching on the horse. He may have a small bridle and a longer belly band. I'll save a bunch of money and since I'll still need to get a harness for Nevada, that works for me. He was very impressed by little Wiseguy who behaved very nicely while we messed around with the breeching and put all the harness pieces on him. I am also pleased that I have been doing pretty good with setting up the cart. The trainer also thought I had two fine looking horses

Hubby was home since he had a cold so I asked the trainer if he would mind taking a look at how we are doing with Nevada. He helped Hubby get the stud chain on him and then observed while Hubby took the horse out to the round pen. Hubby took the horse over some logs and then ran him around the round pen. The trainer thought we were doing good with Nevada. We discussed Nevada's issues and making sure we use the stud chain so Nevada doesn't get into the habit of being a pill. The trainer thought Nevada will make a great cart horse so that is good. Nevada isn't troubled or worried, he has confidence. That is what I have been thinking - if we can make sure Nevada listens to us and says "Okay, you are the boss" he should be great pulling a cart.

We are going over to the trainer's place on Saturday so we can see his chariot and meet his critters and pick up that bridle and belly band. Then, I am scheduled for the next Tuesday for some ground driving or cart work. Can't wait.

Well, this all sounds really exciting! How cool that you now have someone that can give feedback and direction in person with the horses!! Saturday sounds like fun too.

I seem to have the cold. I just hope it doesn't get any worse than this. Since I already had a cold this year, I think that this is terribly unfair. I have a cleaning job on Friday so let's cross our fingers that I will be well enough to do that cleaning job.

That does seem entirely unfair. Dumb idea: I wonder if the colds may be a delayed reaction to the inhaled impurities from the recent fires that you and hubby had to endure.

I usually don't like menthol vapes, but for a sore throat it helps. I also have some ginger juice for attacking the sinuses with an atom bomb. Haven't had a cold since February when I started.

Before I started vaping in August of 2009, I used to have chronic bronchitis. I'd end up having two or three long bouts of it every year and ended up hospitalized twice for pneumonia. Since I started vaping, I haven't had bronchitis a single time and have only had one cold. I'm not the only one. There are a lot of other folks that haven't had nearly the number of colds or pulmonary difficulties.

I can't see how people could interpret what they read NOT based on their past experiences. I think we interpret everything in terms of past experiences. We have expectations of how something will be, and often, that influences how we see it. I think this is a very interesting area of psychology. People only see part of what's there, and then they fill in the gaps from their imagination. Take, for instance, several people who witness a car accident. When the police question them separately about what they saw, each person gives a different version. This is really interesting to me, how people don't really see what is there as much as they see what they expect to see. Memories are distorted the same way. Fascinating stuff! If we can't even remember accurately, what's reality?

Well said! And, if you follow that thought --- is the existence of reality a reality?

 

[3mg Meniere]

I can't even imagine how difficult it would be to have writing as your primary method of expression, and then having to write non-fiction. That has to be frustrating. I too admire your fortitude; but, we all do what we have to do. Hang in there.

Well, this all sounds really exciting! How cool that you now have someone that can give feedback and direction in person with the horses!! Saturday sounds like fun too.


Well said! And, if you follow that thought --- is the existence of reality a reality?

Many people working on the issues I am working on do begin to question reality. When do you treat a piece of fantasy fiction as something that really happened, and when do you treat it as something that sprang from the authors' heads? For the sake of argument it is sometimes useful to treat it as something that really happened.

Yeah, not to step on sensitive nerves here, but I never have been well coordinated or strong, and when I try to draw I end up drawing it flat three-dimensional, like the horse's eyes. One time I did a pastel of a pine tree in our neighborhood, with an interesting crook at the top. I ran out of space at the top. In analysis of people's drawings, that is an indicator of a tightly-controlled fantasy life. Part of the social pressure to interpret things according to how the dominant people interpret things. (Drawing of a house, a tree, and a person has been standardized for psychological interpretation and assessment. The tree can be most valuable for deeper issues.)

 

[Renolizzie]

Maybe the prolonged smoke inhalation hasn't helped my cause

 

[3mg Meniere]

Maybe the prolonged smoke inhalation hasn't helped my cause

170 likes, here. LOL

 

[SandySu]

Many people working on the issues I am working on do begin to question reality. When do you treat a piece of fantasy fiction as something that really happened, and when do you treat it as something that sprang from the authors' heads? For the sake of argument it is sometimes useful to treat it as something that really happened.

Yeah, not to step on sensitive nerves here, but I never have been well coordinated or strong, and when I try to draw I end up drawing it flat three-dimensional, like the horse's eyes. One time I did a pastel of a pine tree in our neighborhood, with an interesting crook at the top. I ran out of space at the top. In analysis of people's drawings, that is an indicator of a tightly-controlled fantasy life. Part of the social pressure to interpret things according to how the dominant people interpret things. (Drawing of a house, a tree, and a person has been standardized for psychological interpretation and assessment. The tree can be most valuable for deeper issues.)

We've been discussing being a loner. One advantage I find to being alone so much -- and not watching TV or having much input from society -- is that I come up with independent thoughts. I think I'm not so influenced by what others think as those who get more input from other people. I like this aspect, because I don't parrot what I've heard as much as more social people.

I'm probably still influenced by society's predominant thoughts. I don't live in a vacuum, but I live in a more isolated way than many other people who get input from outside themselves more.

Does this make me less sensitive to criticism? I'm not sure. But I'm less likely to be criticized if there are less people around to pass judgment.

I really appreciate thinking for myself and wonder at people who don't seem to. They parrot what others around them say and believe it's the truth without giving it much thought. I hear things, but I think them over more, question the reality of what's being said, and come up with conclusions on my own. At least, I hope I do. I guess none of us knows for sure how much outside thought influences our thinking.

 

[3mg Meniere]

I was complaining to one of my spiritual advisers about my dissatisfaction with this contemplative lifestyle, and he just let the comment pass. LOL. I substitute teach, go to quilting club (which I am going to skip today), walk, volunteer, and go to weekday mass at the VA-- and of course, talk with friends on the boards. I think that is enough, and too much chatting on the boards, although I am careful on the board which is directly relevant.

If I am sure of myself, and have collected enough data to warrant that confidence, then I won't feel hurt if someone is being critical. For instance, someone made this comment to me yesterday:

your response is a childish and incoherent attempt to justify your assertions by throwing up a bunch of names. No wonder you believe the nonsense that ....stated was a valid point. Your head seems full of this kind of nonsense.

I just went "humph!" consider the source!! And didn't respond.

 

[JerryRM]

Good morning, Peeps.

I got to thinking, which is a dangerous thing for me to do, lol. I must be a loner, to be spending so much time on the internet and not in the Real World, I have to be a loner. We all are loners, to one degree or another. But, I have found the best group of loners, to hang out with, to call my friends, especially Raven

 

[SandySu]

I was complaining to one of my spiritual advisers about my dissatisfaction with this contemplative lifestyle, and he just let the comment pass. LOL. I substitute teach, go to quilting club (which I am going to skip today), walk, volunteer, and go to weekday mass at the VA-- and of course, talk with friends on the boards. I think that is enough, and too much chatting on the boards, although I am careful on the board which is directly relevant.

If I am sure of myself, and have collected enough data to warrant that confidence, then I won't feel hurt if someone is being critical. For instance, someone made this comment to me yesterday:
I just went "humph!" consider the source!! And didn't respond.

That kind of criticism is really not helpful. What kind of person does that? An angry one, IMHO. I could see someone disagreeing or saying your research doesn't hold together to make your point or something, but calling names is not going to convince you that the criticizer has a valid point. I suppose you showed your work to this person not knowing the kind of response you'd get. My advice is to only show it to people who can be helpful about the flaws in your reasoning or something.

That's like if Terry and I showed our artwork on here hoping for help, and someone said, "Your work stinks. It looks like a kindergartner did it." Now, how much would we get from such a comment? Better to say what's wrong with it, like the eyes don't match or whatever. That kind of critique can help us improve.

 

[rave]

Good morning, Peeps.

I got to thinking, which is a dangerous thing for me to do, lol. I must be a loner, to be spending so much time on the internet and not in the Real World, I have to be a loner. We all are loners, to one degree or another. But, I have found the best group of loners, to hang out with, to call my friends, especially Raven

Morning back atcha, Jerry. To my way of thinking, this IS the Real World. Are the people here any less real than those that we interface with outside of the internet? It seems that an awful lot of people that post (and I'm not talking about here) seem to think that they aren't talking with real people or real feelings, because they say things and behave in a way that they never would in person. These people - my dearest friends - are very real to me. I've shared things with them - both thoughts and physical items, and they've shared those things with me. We've got an inspiring, fascinating, intelligent, moral, and talented group of folks here that I really enjoy being with. Just sayin'.

 

[JerryRM]

Well said, Raven, I can't add or subtract anything from your post.

 

[rave]

Well said, Raven, I can't add or subtract anything from your post.

I can:

Group Hug!



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[rave]

Little bit of frustration here today. I've be trying to screw up the courage to actually drill the holes out of a mod/PV holder that I've designed. I had it all taped together and most of the areas that need to be drilled have been marked. Then I made a couple of practice holes with the Forstner bits ...... bit my lower lip ...... grit my teeth ..... and finally started.

At a depth of 1/8", that's when the battery of my electric drill decided that it needed to be charged.

 

[JerryRM]

I can:

Group Hug!

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No facepalm, that was a very nice post, my dear.