Speaking of planting a seed....I've talked to Rave about how you guys get emotionally involved in your artwork and get great satisfaction from it and I don't. I feel good when they turn out but I don't get that sense of satisfaction or fulfillment. We both came to the same conclusion almost simultaneously. My drawings aren't my work. I didn't create them, I copied somebody else's work. So until I can draw from my own ideas I'll have to settle for just feeling good, which is just fine for now.
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Speaking of planting a seed....I've talked to Rave about how you guys get emotionally involved in your artwork and get great satisfaction from it and I don't. I feel good when they turn out but I don't get that sense of satisfaction or fulfillment. We both came to the same conclusion almost simultaneously. My drawings aren't my work. I didn't create them, I copied somebody else's work. So until I can draw from my own ideas I'll have to settle for just feeling good, which is just fine for now.
One step at a time, Terry. 
Ha, I should talk, my idea of creating art is to put together a jigsaw puzzle. Which I haven't done, since I found the forum, over 4 years ago.
Ha, I should talk, my idea of creating art is to put together a jigsaw puzzle. Which I haven't done, since I found the forum, over 4 years ago.
BF has been in FL for the past week and he found an Art store. Woo hoo! He got me an electric eraser plus a bunch of other stuff I've forgotten already. I can't wait to see what he got but I have another 5 -6 days to wait. 
It's going to be like Christmas all over again !!!!!BF has been in FL for the past week and he found an Art store. Woo hoo! He got me an electric eraser plus a bunch of other stuff I've forgotten already. I can't wait to see what he got but I have another 5 -6 days to wait.
Feeling good is wonderful, don't knock it. I don't know if I get more satisfaction out of drawing from my own photos. I think I get the most satisfaction when the picture I draw comes closest to what I envisioned. What I envision is always better, but sometimes I can get close enough to feel satisfied. I think the idea is to get a feeling from the picture you're copying. Savor that feeling, the emotion you have. What about that picture appealed to you more than the others? Why did you choose it? Whatever reason, and sometimes it's just a feeling that you can't dissect, then if your picture comes close to giving you that same emotion, I think that's what makes a good picture and makes me feel most satisfied.
I would think that you would get great satisfaction out of drawing from your own photos. They're your photos and they are very good. Have you drawn very many pictures from your imagination?
You must be on Rave's wave length too. She mentioned something like that only she said to envision a pic of how I'm feeling and then draw it but it was a pic of a person/me and I don't want to draw people. So I searched google for an animal pic that portrayed how I was feeling and found one but I don't think I'll draw it because I think it will make me feel more like I'm already feeling. Which isn't a good thing. I don't want to savor that feeling. I hope that makes sense.
You must be on Rave's wave length too. She mentioned something like that only she said to envision a pic of how I'm feeling and then draw it but it was a pic of a person/me and I don't want to draw people. So I searched google for an animal pic that portrayed how I was feeling and found one but I don't think I'll draw it because I think it will make me feel more like I'm already feeling. Which isn't a good thing. I don't want to savor that feeling. I hope that makes sense.
Well, you know yourself and how you feel better than anyone else, so it's your decision. But remember when Rave posted those pictures she did that expressed fear? She was feeling fear, and she said she got some relief from getting it out into a picture. You might try it once and see if it makes you feel better or worse. If it makes you feel worse, at least you'll know not to try it again for a while. But people change, and maybe at some future point, it might be worth trying again.
Also, I don't know what you're feeling, except that it's some negative emotion, but I got a feeling from that polar bear. Was that your emotions sneaking out in spite of yourself? To me, the bear looks threatened by the observer's presence. Not terribly afraid but uncertain just how much of a threat it is. He's trying to decide whether it's something that he should attack to defend himself or if he should run. So he's still trying to figure it out. He doesn't like it, and he's not sure of it, and he's confused but still hostile.
Does that sound like what you're feeling?
Yes, I remember Rave's dark pics and how it gave her some relief. I just don't think I'm wired that way. I may try it some day IDK.
I see that Polar Bear pic different than you do. I just saw an animal that I like and a solitude setting and decided to give it a try. If I had any feelings at all about the pic it would have been something like "I wish I was there" but without the bear.
I don't see an aggressive bear. I just see a bear coming out of the water to rest. I didn't feel any negative feelings about the bear, the pic or while I was working on it. It was a distraction from the negative feelings I have. All the hobbies I've had have been good distractions from problems so I'm really glad that I found that I have the ability to draw but am dumbfounded by that. LOL!In case I didn't answer your question in my previous post the answer is No, I'm not feeling threatened at least not physically. Mentally/emotionally? IDK. I'd have to give that some thought. It's hard for me to put a label on my feelings except anger. I know that one in a heart beat.
Yes, I remember Rave's dark pics and how it gave her some relief. I just don't think I'm wired that way. I may try it some day IDK.
I see that Polar Bear pic different than you do. I just saw an animal that I like and a solitude setting and decided to give it a try. If I had any feelings at all about the pic it would have been something like "I wish I was there" but without the bear.
OK. I understand. I don't think I try to express negative emotions in my drawings, either. I see a picture I like, it appeals to me on some visceral level, and I try to make my drawing appeal in the same way. Pretty simple. What worked for Rave may not work for everyone. As long as you are enjoying drawing, that's the main thing. I also enjoy learning things, and improving my drawings is learning. That gives me satisfaction, too. I think you may feel about drawing more like me than you think.
In case I didn't answer your question in my previous post the answer is No, I'm not feeling threatened at least not physically. Mentally/emotionally? IDK. I'd have to give that some thought. It's hard for me to put a label on my feelings except anger. I know that one in a heart beat.
Well, what I got from the polar bear might have nothing to do with you. It was a long shot. I didn't get a sense of rage from the bear, just indecision about whether to attack or flee. Maybe I'm reading some hidden emotions of my own into it. I don't know what I might be considering attacking or fleeing, though. The vacuuming that needs to get done here?
Those are the kinds of pics I love for to draw. Pretty landscapes, interesting trees, cute or fierce looking animals. And, yes, I get satisfaction from learn and improving also.
I can't like that post, Terry. I hope that things get better for you, soon.In case I didn't answer your question in my previous post the answer is No, I'm not feeling threatened at least not physically. Mentally/emotionally? IDK. I'd have to give that some thought. It's hard for me to put a label on my feelings except anger. I know that one in a heart beat.
I can't like that post, Terry. I hope that things get better for you, soon.
Thanks Jerry.
I just took a closer look at this Polar Bear, trying to see aggression or fight or flight and I just don't see it. To me the bear looks happy. Maybe happy to be out of that cold water. Maybe happy because he just ate. He even looks like he's smiling. Weird huh?
BTW, I'm working on a cute squirrel now so I've gone from drawing a predator to a prey so there is no rhyme or reason to the pics I choose. I just choose what I like. Which is good I think so I don't get in a rut and get to learn new stuff.
I saw the bear as being curious about whatever was there that was out of the ordinary.
Yup, that's why I don't do the same jigsaw puzzle over and over again.
Yup, that's why I don't do the same jigsaw puzzle over and over again.
But I do horses over and over. Still, to me, each one is different. Call me obsessive or call me a specialist. I don't know which.
Speaking of projects, today, before tutoring, I returned the picture frame I had tried to put Maija in. Did I mention one of the things that you turn to hold the backing on broke off? They took it back with no questions asked and gave me another frame of the same kind, plus I bought 2 more, since that was the last frame. So now all I have to do is put Maija into the new frame and give the picture to Deb. Then, a new project. I may go back to trying to draw Gabe. He's a young horse, so dark brown that he might be considered black. I picked a rather difficult angle because he had a look of innocence that I associate with a youngster. I have an easier pose of him, but I didn't really like it as much. So this will be a challenge, and I'm sure all of you will see many versions of it before it's done.
One thing I noticed in some videos I watched was that they put the background in before the foreground stuff. i always put the background in last, so I don't smudge the background into the horse. But now I wonder if it should go in sooner. It's really difficult to get the background in around all the little details. Maybe it'd be easier if it went in under those details. Hmm …
Terry, how did you do the polar bear? Bear first and then background, or the other way around?
One thing I noticed in some videos I watched was that they put the background in before the foreground stuff. i always put the background in last, so I don't smudge the background into the horse. But now I wonder if it should go in sooner. It's really difficult to get the background in around all the little details. Maybe it'd be easier if it went in under those details. Hmm …
Terry, how did you do the polar bear? Bear first and then background, or the other way around?
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