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But that person won't bid 50 cents while I do. They'll wait till I bid and then beat it. Right? I guess I don't thoroughly understand how to play the system with eBay.

If you are willing to pay $10 even if the bid is at $5, wait until the last 15 seconds and then bid $10.01. If somebody before you bids $10 then you will win the auction because you bid 1 cent more then the last bidder. You don't have to bid 50 cents more than the last bid, you only have to bid at least 50 cents more.

The only problem with waiting until the last 15 seconds to bid is if you have a slow connection and your bid doesn't post until the auction ends. If you have a fast connection then you don't have to worry.
 

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Sandy, as an eBay "sniper" with some years of experience here's my tricks...

Watch, don't bid. Watch the bid history as the bidding progresses to see who's a "die hard" and who's just mildly interested. Be on the auction just before it closes, then bid two increments higher than the highest bid plus some odd pennies. An increment is the minimum amount for the next highest bid. For example, the item is currently at 11.50 and the auction closes in 30 seconds. The increment is .50 (normally I think) so bid 12.93 or even 13.11. Nine out of ten times, you'll win.

The keys are to bid at the last possible second and bid over by an odd number. Most people bid even amounts, so the odd pennies will help improve your odds of winning. Now this doesn't get you the lowest price possible, but if you want an item, it will usually work out.

Exactly what I was trying to say. I've won many auctions this way. Sniping is frowned upon by other bidders but who cares. They'll learn and then do the same thing. :)
 

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Whoa! Wouldn't this make a cool graphite drawing?

White-Tiger-Wallpaper.jpg~original
 

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Whoa! Wouldn't this make a cool graphite drawing?

White-Tiger-Wallpaper.jpg~original

Do it then. My only problem with it is that it's already artwork, and I like to work from photos. Actually, it looks like the trees are real, and someone added the tiger. I'm not sure if it looks like he really belongs. There's definitely something strange about it. Rave? Want to say what is strange that I'm seeing? I'm not quite sure.
 

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It could be a White Siberian Tiger, Sandy. Although there is no proof of their existence, there have been rumors of them existing. Perhaps a bit of artistic license in the drawing?

I wasn't thinking of the kind of tiger as much as the way it's sitting in that woodland path. It looks out of proportion or something. Something just doesn't look natural about it, though certainly people have every right to distort reality. Maybe the artist wanted that sort of disturbing feeling.
 

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Do it then. My only problem with it is that it's already artwork, and I like to work from photos. Actually, it looks like the trees are real, and someone added the tiger. I'm not sure if it looks like he really belongs. There's definitely something strange about it. Rave? Want to say what is strange that I'm seeing? I'm not quite sure.

My guess is the tiger was added to the woods photo.
 

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I wasn't thinking of the kind of tiger as much as the way it's sitting in that woodland path. It looks out of proportion or something. Something just doesn't look natural about it, though certainly people have every right to distort reality. Maybe the artist wanted that sort of disturbing feeling.

It's not the proportions that bother me, it's the front paws under the snow look fuzzy, not like real snow.
 

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Here's my redo. I hope I didn't miss anything or mess anything up.

Squirrel%20drawing_Critique.jpg

You really nailed that "tilda"!

There's still something different about the hindquarters. Look at how they are more tucked under him in the photo.

Added: Now I think I see what to do! Bring that dark line dividing the body from the tail down and under him more. That very bottom part is not his body; it's the beginnings of his tail. Also more highlight and dark to show the shape of the hip. You know, the part that's called the stifle in a horse and the knee joint in a human.
 
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Do it then. My only problem with it is that it's already artwork, and I like to work from photos. Actually, it looks like the trees are real, and someone added the tiger. I'm not sure if it looks like he really belongs. There's definitely something strange about it. Rave? Want to say what is strange that I'm seeing? I'm not quite sure.

Siberian tigers have heavier coats especially in winter, and I don't believe that there are any white Siberian tigers in the wild. This is a PhotoShop job. Just look at the extreme blending where the tiger makes contact with the snow in the front. It's absolutely beautiful, but not at all believable. Just my :2c:
 

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You really nailed that "tilda"!

There's still something different about the hindquarters. Look at how they are more tucked under him in the photo.

Added: Now I think I see what to do! Bring that dark line dividing the body from the tail down and under him more. That very bottom part is not his body; it's the beginnings of his tail. Also more highlight and dark to show the shape of the hip. You know, the part that's called the stifle in a horse and the knee joint in a human.

:censored: Now I see it plainly. The side of his body is flat. :( I wonder how many times I'm going to have to scan this bugger before I see what you guys see. AND I wonder how many times I'm going to scan this bugger before I stop seeing stuff that's not right that you guys haven't mentioned. Sheesh!

Thanks for explaining this hindquarters problem.
 
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Siberian tigers have heavier coats especially in winter, and I don't believe that there are any white Siberian tigers in the wild. This is a PhotoShop job. Just look at the extreme blending where the tiger makes contact with the snow in the front. It's absolutely beautiful, but not at all believable. Just my :2c:

Ah ha! Exactly what I said. The snow should be disturbed not smooth. :D
 

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:censored: Now I see it plainly. The side of his body is flat. :( I wonder how many times I'm going to have to scan this bugger before I see what you guys see. AND I wonder how many times I'm going to scan this bugger before I stop seeing stuff that's not right that you guys haven't mentioned. Sheesh!

Thanks for explaining this hindquarters problem.

This is part of the fun of it, isn't it? (I'm joking. It would be fun if we could get it right the first time, IMHO.) Consider it a learning experience.

Once you get the hindquarters looking right, it's done as far as I can see.

I guess I should start Gabe instead of just thinking about it.
 

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This is part of the fun of it, isn't it? (I'm joking. It would be fun if we could get it right the first time, IMHO.) Consider it a learning experience.

Once you get the hindquarters looking right, it's done as far as I can see.

I guess I should start Gabe instead of just thinking about it.

The drawing is fun and I don't mind a few redos but when I see my drawing on my PC I see things I don't see in the original drawing. I don't know why that is and it's very frustrating.

Yeah, the hindquarters was a structural thing. The photo was very small and I had to blow it up so I lost some of the detail but I'm not trying to make excuses. I can see it now. :facepalm:
 
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