LOL! You sure your talking about dogs??? Sounds like small horses!

(Beethoven is a dainty 10-11 lbs!)
Actually our favorite outdoor dog was a gorgeous Sable German Shepherd. A friend couldn't take her when they moved. We felt so honored to be blessed with that dog. VERY well trained. She could almost say "I love you" in a CLEAR manner! Gosh we laughed - reminded us of Scooby!
WELCOME TO THE NEW GUYS! Gosh one of these days I'll stay caught up ... Probably during a snowstorm ...
Or when I get a laptop so I don't have to share with hubs ... I can be gone ALL day ... and he'll take the computer about the time I want it! Just found out bro's laptop is not worth fixing - never going to have a kind word to say about the Computer Renaissance in my area ...