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Oh Sandy,OUCH !!! You didn't get hurt riding did you? I hope you mend quickly

thanks. not hurt riding, but hurt by a horse. i was taking penny out of the pasture when another horse who has decided he's in love with penny refused to be shooed back, rushed the gate, and ran me over. it was scary and painful. i was lucky not to be hurt worse.
 

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thanks. not hurt riding, but hurt by a horse. i was taking penny out of the pasture when another horse who has decided he's in love with penny refused to be shooed back, rushed the gate, and ran me over. it was scary and painful. i was lucky not to be hurt worse.

Oh Sandy! How terrifying! I'm so glad that you weren't hurt even worse, but sorry for the injury that you received. :( Hope you feel better soon.
 

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Yes you are !!! I had that same thing happen to me with two of our Perchies when they were 2yrs old,they didn't mean to but a car back fired and spooked them. All they were trying to do was get to their "momma" but being young and clumsy they couldn't stop and ran over me.
Its always a good idea to take a lounge whip with you when you are getting a horse out of a herd. Sounds like the other horse needs to learn some manners and have a lot of in hand ground work done with it. Is there another horse in that pasture with that horse besides Penny?
 

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Yes you are !!! I had that same thing happen to me with two of our Perchies when they were 2yrs old,they didn't mean to but a car back fired and spooked them. All they were trying to do was get to their "momma" but being young and clumsy they couldn't stop and ran over me.
Its always a good idea to take a lounge whip with you when you are getting a horse out of a herd. Sounds like the other horse needs to learn some manners and have a lot of in hand ground work done with it. Is there another horse in that pasture with that horse besides Penny?

taking a whip is definitely in my future. there are lots of other pasture mates, but petey recently had decided penny was his girlfriend. he had never had even a hint of this behavior before. i do remember that last fall he was in love with another mare who no longer shares the pasture that penny and petey are in. she's now in the dieters' pasture since she was too fat. so, do geldings get some sort of crazy love hormones in fall? it seems like it might be petey's mo anyway. he's not my horse, so any training to respect humans' space will have to be his owner's call.

meanwhile, while i've been typing this, the doctor phoned. i'll have to have surgery to fix the break. i have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow morning and will learn more then.
 

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taking a whip is definitely in my future. there are lots of other pasture mates, but petey recently had decided penny was his girlfriend. he had never had even a hint of this behavior before. i do remember that last fall he was in love with another mare who no longer shares the pasture that penny and petey are in. she's now in the dieters' pasture since she was too fat. so, do geldings get some sort of crazy love hormones in fall? it seems like it might be petey's mo anyway. he's not my horse, so any training to respect humans' space will have to be his owner's call.

meanwhile, while i've been typing this, the doctor phoned. i'll have to have surgery to fix the break. i have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow morning and will learn more then.

Horse and cattle have no clue about how strong and heavy they are, especially when their focus is on anything but you. I have a friend who owns a cattle ranch in VA and she ended up down for a few days with a badly bruised hip this spring. She got stampeded when they though they were getting fed, they had been fed an hour earlier and she was alone, counting heads, when it happened. No cell service out there either, so she was very lucky. Keep us posted Sandy, our thoughts and good wishes are with you!
 

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taking a whip is definitely in my future. there are lots of other pasture mates, but petey recently had decided penny was his girlfriend. he had never had even a hint of this behavior before. i do remember that last fall he was in love with another mare who no longer shares the pasture that penny and petey are in. she's now in the dieters' pasture since she was too fat. so, do geldings get some sort of crazy love hormones in fall? it seems like it might be petey's mo anyway. he's not my horse, so any training to respect humans' space will have to be his owner's call.

meanwhile, while i've been typing this, the doctor phoned. i'll have to have surgery to fix the break. i have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow morning and will learn more then.

Please keep us up to date on how all of this turns out, okay?
 

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Horse and cattle have no clue about how strong and heavy they are, especially when their focus is on anything but you. I have a friend who owns a cattle ranch in VA and she ended up down for a few days with a badly bruised hip this spring. She got stampeded when they though they were getting fed, they had been fed an hour earlier and she was alone, counting heads, when it happened. No cell service out there either, so she was very lucky. Keep us posted Sandy, our thoughts and good wishes are with you!

 

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Bill (over there in my avi) is quite a story. He does seem to catch a lot of attention from people, but people are not his forte. He is hesitant toward new people. But he is quite exuberant to the people he knows.

There are two traits Bill has and they are all natural. Bill is an excellent herder, he takes his work seriously. There are certain hand signals and commands I have taught him, but the skill of herding is natural. The other trait is that all animals like him. No, not just like him, they love him and want to be with him. His herding skills are impeccable.

Bill is an Australian Shepherd. We have a number of working dogs and put them to work daily. Bill is one of the best. If I don't keep my eye on Bill, he'll just start to move a herd around on his own. He moves them to one place, and then he moves them back. Bill will continue to do this until I stop him. It's almost as if he's practicing. He loves to work.

Bill was once homeless and wandering the city streets. A rescue contacted us to see if we wanted a dirty, homeless work dog. It was my sister who answered the phone that day; she has difficulty saying "No". This time I was glad she said "Yes." We are very selective of the animals who come here. We look for the hard cases, the ones with nowhere to go or no one to help them.

We use a rotational grazing system here at the ranch. There is sectioned pastures and the animals are moved to accommodate their nutritional needs along with retaining a balanced ecosystem. Working dogs often end up homeless because they are really good looking dogs, but unhappy unless kept busy. The real pleasure of working dogs is realized when they are given daily work. There is always work for them here.

I often call Bill the nitwit. When he's happy (like while he's working) he has a huge grin. It almost makes his face look clownish. Bill and I have an excellent relationship. He is very easy to handle with just a few select commands. His favorite person happens to be my business partner and friend; they are inseperable.

He is one of the dogs I like to take into the cat house. They love him. The cats actually look forward to a visit from him. They all gather round and rub against him and some even talk to him (I don't know if Bill understands cat language, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did).

The funny thing is Bill thinks he has to herd cats. Now the cats don't particularly care to be herded and Bill has difficulty understanding that. But I let them work it out on their own and they always come to a mutual agreement. It always works out that Bill lies down and the cats do what they want, taking their positions on and around him. Bill smiles.
 
I agree, Kico. Raynes has great stories. I admire her appreciation and love for the animals in her life.

... and humble too! .... :cool:

SANDYSU: OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope you heal fast! Broken anything is literally and figuratively a real pain!
never mind 'restricting' ....

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Oh oh - I hope that broken shoulder has NO connection to the horse needin' a home ...
 
Bill sounds like an absolute love! Your quite right - no matter the job - they all have inbred traits and w/o meaningful work they are not happy campers. My lil buddy is a companion dog. He's my shadow - my travelin bud. I can tell he's not happy being restricted to the house while I'm out w/ the horses. He happens to know he's a lil fella - unlike some small companions!

When we were still fostering, Beethoven loved to go along to the workshops & conferences. I figured why board him when he'd be happier sleepin in his bag next to me - never mind the new 'friends' he'd get to meet. The best part of that (besides him being w/ us) was seeing the surprised smiles when he'd pop his head up on the elevators! Sometimes it was comical when he 'hide' and someone realized it wasn't a 'stuffy' in there! (Must have made for interesting self talk to think a grown woman was carrying a stuffed dog around!
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Hmm = wonder who told the Sultan (new avi - sportin' his new halter) he's mah therapist? :D

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Will be prayin' your surgeon has steady hands & your body heals fast! When you have big animals runnin at yah - that's a might unnerving. We've a fiesty bunch of newly gelded fella's out in the main yard til Sun yet. When I'm out there - eyes in the back of the head would be good when they get to fightin. Interestingly, there's one in particular that shadows me and several times he's stepped in between me and whoever was raisin' cane ...
 

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... and humble too! .... :cool:

SANDYSU: OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope you heal fast! Broken anything is literally and figuratively a real pain!
never mind 'restricting' ....

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Oh oh - I hope that broken shoulder has NO connection to the horse needin' a home ...

no, the horse needing a home is another horse at the farm, a mare. she was boarded there, but not long after she arrived, her owner ran out of money to pay her board. she offered the mare to the barn owner, who agreed, not that she really needs another horse. the mare cribs and refuses to load into a trailer. but the real problem is that she has a big swelling on her face -- a tumor maybe -- and 2 bad teeth, which probably have caused an infection, so her nose runs constantly. the barn owner was told that $1000 would fix the mare up. but when the barn owner got an estimate, it was about $4000. the mare is in her teens, gentle to ride, a nice horse, but the barn owner can't afford the surgery. the mare probably couldn't be sold for more than about $1000 if she didn't need expensive medical attention. so no one is likely to take her, and i think it's quite possible that the $4000 may be just the beginning of medical expenses. things are never as cheap or simple as they could be. the barn owner consulted the vet who said for $100 she could do some dentistry and see if that helps. i haven't heard more since, but the barn owner was in one breath saying she might try the cheap stopgap measure, which may,imho, do nothing worthwhile, and in the next breath wondering if she should just put the horse down. i suggested asking equine rescues if they'd take her. the barn owner said she didn't think any of them would want to spend the money, either. i think some vets donate their services to rescues, though. but then, who wants a cribber who won't load? the horses are out 24/7 with shelters, but the horse is destroying the barn and shelters. maybe she cribs from the pain of the infection, but if that is cleared up, there's no guarantee she would stop cribbing.

the ideal situation would be if someone took the mare and invested in the medical care/operation she needs. no one wants to, of course, so she may be put down.
 

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Bill (over there in my avi) is quite a story. He does seem to catch a lot of attention from people, but people are not his forte. He is hesitant toward new people. But he is quite exuberant to the people he knows.

There are two traits Bill has and they are all natural. Bill is an excellent herder, he takes his work seriously. There are certain hand signals and commands I have taught him, but the skill of herding is natural. The other trait is that all animals like him. No, not just like him, they love him and want to be with him. His herding skills are impeccable.

Bill is an Australian Shepherd. We have a number of working dogs and put them to work daily. Bill is one of the best. If I don't keep my eye on Bill, he'll just start to move a herd around on his own. He moves them to one place, and then he moves them back. Bill will continue to do this until I stop him. It's almost as if he's practicing. He loves to work.

Bill was once homeless and wandering the city streets. A rescue contacted us to see if we wanted a dirty, homeless work dog. It was my sister who answered the phone that day; she has difficulty saying "No". This time I was glad she said "Yes." We are very selective of the animals who come here. We look for the hard cases, the ones with nowhere to go or no one to help them.

We use a rotational grazing system here at the ranch. There is sectioned pastures and the animals are moved to accommodate their nutritional needs along with retaining a balanced ecosystem. Working dogs often end up homeless because they are really good looking dogs, but unhappy unless kept busy. The real pleasure of working dogs is realized when they are given daily work. There is always work for them here.

I often call Bill the nitwit. When he's happy (like while he's working) he has a huge grin. It almost makes his face look clownish. Bill and I have an excellent relationship. He is very easy to handle with just a few select commands. His favorite person happens to be my business partner and friend; they are inseperable.

He is one of the dogs I like to take into the cat house. They love him. The cats actually look forward to a visit from him. They all gather round and rub against him and some even talk to him (I don't know if Bill understands cat language, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did).

The funny thing is Bill thinks he has to herd cats. Now the cats don't particularly care to be herded and Bill has difficulty understanding that. But I let them work it out on their own and they always come to a mutual agreement. It always works out that Bill lies down and the cats do what they want, taking their positions on and around him. Bill smiles.

Fantastic Blues!! Thank you. Bill is amazing and that's why I love him as your avi.

You're a very good story teller. :)
 

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no, the horse needing a home is another horse at the farm, a mare. she was boarded there, but not long after she arrived, her owner ran out of money to pay her board. she offered the mare to the barn owner, who agreed, not that she really needs another horse. the mare cribs and refuses to load into a trailer. but the real problem is that she has a big swelling on her face -- a tumor maybe -- and 2 bad teeth, which probably have caused an infection, so her nose runs constantly. the barn owner was told that $1000 would fix the mare up. but when the barn owner got an estimate, it was about $4000. the mare is in her teens, gentle to ride, a nice horse, but the barn owner can't afford the surgery. the mare probably couldn't be sold for more than about $1000 if she didn't need expensive medical attention. so no one is likely to take her, and i think it's quite possible that the $4000 may be just the beginning of medical expenses. things are never as cheap or simple as they could be. the barn owner consulted the vet who said for $100 she could do some dentistry and see if that helps. i haven't heard more since, but the barn owner was in one breath saying she might try the cheap stopgap measure, which may,imho, do nothing worthwhile, and in the next breath wondering if she should just put the horse down. i suggested asking equine rescues if they'd take her. the barn owner said she didn't think any of them would want to spend the money, either. i think some vets donate their services to rescues, though. but then, who wants a cribber who won't load? the horses are out 24/7 with shelters, but the horse is destroying the barn and shelters. maybe she cribs from the pain of the infection, but if that is cleared up, there's no guarantee she would stop cribbing.

the ideal situation would be if someone took the mare and invested in the medical care/operation she needs. no one wants to, of course, so she may be put down.
Sandy,without a pic I can't tell where the swelling is but it sounds like an abscess if her teeth are in bad shape IMHO. If it is a tumor euthanizing maybe the best thing. Some folks have a problem with that but I love my animals too much to let them suffer and I've been on that false hope emotional roller coaster ride a few times only to wind up feeling guilty for prolonging the inevitable.
Cribbing could be b/c of the pain, stress, or boredom even a vit.or mineral defiency. If she was in the south I'd say look for snake bite but I don't think there are any poisonous snakes up north.
Wish that I knew of someone up there that could take her in.
 

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taking a whip is definitely in my future. there are lots of other pasture mates, but petey recently had decided penny was his girlfriend. he had never had even a hint of this behavior before. i do remember that last fall he was in love with another mare who no longer shares the pasture that penny and petey are in. she's now in the dieters' pasture since she was too fat. so, do geldings get some sort of crazy love hormones in fall? it seems like it might be petey's mo anyway. he's not my horse, so any training to respect humans' space will have to be his owner's call.

meanwhile, while i've been typing this, the doctor phoned. i'll have to have surgery to fix the break. i have an appointment with the surgeon tomorrow morning and will learn more then.
I'm so sorry that you have to have surgery. Just thankful you can be repaired. Rule of thumb after my wreck is a safety helmet,riding vest and a whip.
I live by Murphy's Laws and have ever since I got plowed over -"If it can happen it will". You can have the best trained horses ever,impeccable ground manners and still get hurt. Feeding times and taking a horse out of a herd is when your at most risk for a wreck as you have found out.
My guess is that horse was gelded later in life.Maybe Penny was coming in heat. Or just maybe he sees himself as the "boss" of the herd hard to tell sometimes or he could be just plain jealous.
 

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I'm so sorry that you have to have surgery. Just thankful you can be repaired. Rule of thumb after my wreck is a safety helmet,riding vest and a whip.
I live by Murphy's Laws and have ever since I got plowed over -"If it can happen it will". You can have the best trained horses ever,impeccable ground manners and still get hurt. Feeding times and taking a horse out of a herd is when your at most risk for a wreck as you have found out.
My guess is that horse was gelded later in life.Maybe Penny was coming in heat. Or just maybe he sees himself as the "boss" of the herd hard to tell sometimes or he could be just plain jealous.

penny was in heat. i wondered if he was gelded late, or if it's just that some geldings seem more interested in mares in heat than others. maybe it's hereditary. petey is no herd boss. in fact, he's fairly low in the pecking order.
 

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Blues thanks so much for sharing Bill's story. I've never been good at expressing myself so all I can say is "Thank you" for being you.
You all have a GREAT night.
Sandy I'm praying you heal soon and don't let the pain get so bad before you take a pain med.(That's the nurse in me).
Kicco you still give me WAY to much credit HUGS
 

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Just popping through to say hello and hope you are all well. Im house sitting this week and the break away has been wonderful. Only a few more days left then i go back to a loud household. Have a great day

Hey Reptilr! Good to see you. Hope you enjoy house sitting. Nothing beats a nice, quiet house! You have a great day too. :D
 
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