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That last one had me laughing so hard I was crying, Rabbit!

My wife, who really does not have a great sense of humor, especially with jokes about women, liked it also. I am so glad everyone is not offended and can take a joke. Laughter is really the best medicine I can find lately besides vaping :laugh:

By the way, my Nano (only bought one to try) is still working OK, no leaks so far. I did actually clean it and put in a different juice and it worked fine. Taste still muted though, but vapor production is profuse. :evil:
 

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Since you all seem to be in the mood for early AM humor, this was also posted on Facebood by one of my friends.

Why married women should not go to Girls Night Out !

The other night I was invited out for a night with the "girls." I told my husband that I would be home by midnight, "I promise!" Well, the hours passed and the margaritas went down way too easily. Around 3 am, a bit loaded, I headed for home.
Just as I got in the door, the cuckoo clock in the hallway started up and cuckooed 3 times. Quickly, realizing my husband would probably wake up, I cuckooed another 9 times. I was really proud of myself for coming up with such a quick-witted solution, in order to escape a possible conflict with him. Even when totally smashed... 3 cuckoos plus 9 cuckoos totals 12 cuckoos = MIDNIGHT ! The next morning my husband asked me what time I got in, I told him "MIDNIGHT"... he didn't seem ...... off in the least. Whew, I got away with that one! Then he said "We need a new cuckoo clock." When I asked him why, he said, "Well, last night our clock cuckooed three times, then said "oh ...." Cuckooed 4 more times, cleared its throat, cuckooed another three times, giggled, cuckooed twice more, and then tripped over the coffee table and farted.

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Mornin' All!

I'm hangin' in there. My biggest problem seems to be that the warranty has expired on this bod of mine. Blues is right though - my spirits are in great shape. My thanks to him for that. :wub:

Anyhow - I'm about ready to build an ark to deal with all the rain we've been having. In the spirit of precipitation (and because I'm a weather freak), I submit:

 

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My wife, who really does not have a great sense of humor, especially with jokes about women, liked it also. I am so glad everyone is not offended and can take a joke. Laughter is really the best medicine I can find lately besides vaping :laugh:

Good stuff, White Rabbit. You started my day with a laugh.
 

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Since you all seem to be in the mood for early AM humor, this was also posted on Facebood by one of my friends.

Why married women should not go to Girls Night Out !

The other night I was invited out for a night with the "girls." I told my husband that I would be home by midnight, "I promise!" Well, the hours passed and the margaritas went down way too easily. Around 3 am, a bit loaded, I headed for home.
Just as I got in the door, the cuckoo clock in the hallway started up and cuckooed 3 times. Quickly, realizing my husband would probably wake up, I cuckooed another 9 times. I was really proud of myself for coming up with such a quick-witted solution, in order to escape a possible conflict with him. Even when totally smashed... 3 cuckoos plus 9 cuckoos totals 12 cuckoos = MIDNIGHT ! The next morning my husband asked me what time I got in, I told him "MIDNIGHT"... he didn't seem ...... off in the least. Whew, I got away with that one! Then he said "We need a new cuckoo clock." When I asked him why, he said, "Well, last night our clock cuckooed three times, then said "oh ...." Cuckooed 4 more times, cleared its throat, cuckooed another three times, giggled, cuckooed twice more, and then tripped over the coffee table and farted.
Thank God I dont have a coffeetable................Not female either.:D
 

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Good mornin' Rave. If you know the story of the spoons, hope you have plenty of them today.
The Spoon Theory
by Christine Miserandino
www.butyoudontlooksick.com
My best friend and I were in the diner, talking. As usual, it was very late and we were eating French fries with gravy.
Like normal girls our age, we spent a lot of time in the diner while in college, and most of the time we spent talking
about boys, music or trivial things, that seemed very important at the time. We never got serious about anything in
particular and spent most of our time laughing.
As I went to take some of my medicine with a snack as I usually did, she watched me with an awkward kind of stare,
instead of continuing the conversation. She then asked me out of the blue what it felt like to have Lupus and be sick. I
was shocked not only because she asked the random question, but also because I assumed she knew all there was to
know about Lupus. She came to doctors with me, she saw me walk with a cane, and throw up in the bathroom. She had
seen me cry in pain, what else was there to know?
I started to ramble on about pills, and aches and pains, but she kept pursuing, and didn't seem satisfied with my
answers. I was a little surprised as being my roommate in college and friend for years; I thought she already knew the
medical definition of Lupus. Then she looked at me with a face every sick person knows well, the face of pure curiosity
about something no one healthy can truly understand. She asked what it felt like, not physically, but what it felt like
to be me, to be sick.
As I tried to gain my composure, I glanced around the table for help or guidance, or at least stall for time to think. I
was trying to find the right words. How do I answer a question I never was able to answer for myself? How do I explain
every detail of every day being effected, and give the emotions a sick person goes through with clarity. I could have
given up, cracked a joke like I usually do, and changed the subject, but I remember thinking if I don’t try to explain
this, how could I ever expect her to understand. If I can’t explain this to my best friend, how could I explain my world
to anyone else? I had to at least try.
At that moment, the spoon theory was born. I quickly grabbed every spoon on the table; hell I grabbed spoons off of
the other tables. I looked at her in the eyes and said “Here you go, you have Lupus”. She looked at me slightly
confused, as anyone would when they are being handed a bouquet of spoons. The cold metal spoons clanked in my
hands, as I grouped them together and shoved them into her hands.
I explained that the difference in being sick and being healthy is having to make choices or to consciously think about
things when the rest of the world doesn’t have to. The healthy have the luxury of a life without choices, a gift most
people take for granted.
Most people start the day with unlimited amount of possibilities, and energy to do whatever they desire, especially
young people. For the most part, they do not need to worry about the effects of their actions. So for my explanation, I
used spoons to convey this point. I wanted something for her to actually hold, for me to then take away, since most
people who get sick feel a “loss” of a life they once knew. If I was in control of taking away the spoons, then she would
know what it feels like to have someone or something else, in this case Lupus, being in control.
She grabbed the spoons with excitement. She didn’t understand what I was doing, but she is always up for a good time,
so I guess she thought I was cracking a joke of some kind like I usually do when talking about touchy topics. Little did
she know how serious I would become?
I asked her to count her spoons. She asked why, and I explained that when you are healthy you expect to have a neverending supply of "spoons". But when you have to now plan your day, you need to know exactly how many “spoons” you
are starting with. It doesn’t guarantee that you might not lose some along the way, but at least it helps to know where
you are starting. She counted out 12 spoons. She laughed and said she wanted more. I said no, and I knew right away
that this little game would work, when she looked disappointed, and we hadn't even started yet. I’ve wanted more
"spoons" for years and haven’t found a way yet to get more, why should she? I also told her to always be conscious of
how many she had, and not to drop them because she can never forget she has Lupus.
 
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That was something my daughter found & told to me, It has really helped me to understand. Hope it does the same for others.

Thank you for that. I do already know the story of the spoons. I shared that with my daughter so that she would be able to understand better.

The last couple of days, I've had to resort to "sporks". :laugh: But, as you can see, I find that laughing at my situation keeps my spirits up. I do best if I don't dwell on it. I am not MS. It just follows me around like a rude salesperson.
 

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Since you all seem to be in the mood for early AM humor, this was also posted on Facebood by one of my friends.

Why married women should not go to Girls Night Out !

The other night I was invited out for a night with the "girls." I told my husband that I would be home by midnight, "I promise!" Well, the hours passed and the margaritas went down way too easily. Around 3 am, a bit loaded, I headed for home.
Just as I got in the door, the cuckoo clock in the hallway started up and cuckooed 3 times. Quickly, realizing my husband would probably wake up, I cuckooed another 9 times. I was really proud of myself for coming up with such a quick-witted solution, in order to escape a possible conflict with him. Even when totally smashed... 3 cuckoos plus 9 cuckoos totals 12 cuckoos = MIDNIGHT ! The next morning my husband asked me what time I got in, I told him "MIDNIGHT"... he didn't seem ...... off in the least. Whew, I got away with that one! Then he said "We need a new cuckoo clock." When I asked him why, he said, "Well, last night our clock cuckooed three times, then said "oh ...." Cuckooed 4 more times, cleared its throat, cuckooed another three times, giggled, cuckooed twice more, and then tripped over the coffee table and farted.

You need to STOP Rabbit!! My husband thinks I'm loosing my mind... laughing so hard with tears running down my face in front of the laptop.

Oh ouch!!! my stomach hurts!! HaHaHa :lol:
 

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Raven, is having a difficult time this morning. She didn't do well yestaerday either. The one thing is, her spirit is on the upbeat. We talked for quite a while last night, and all things were good. I know she'll try to post and let you know she's okay.

Raven won't let me get on a plane to come and see her. So I told her to stop in here every now and say "Hi" to her friends.

Blues... I know it must be very difficult for you to be so far away from Rave but she knows how much you care and loves you for it. When my husband has really bad episodes of his MS symptoms, there is nothing I can do for him and it just makes me feel helpless and then I have a tendency to hover too much which only adds to his stress which he does not need. As you have said many times, Rave is strong and determined and soon this bad period will ease. Hang in there! :)
 

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Thank you for that. I do already know the story of the spoons. I shared that with my daughter so that she would be able to understand better.

The last couple of days, I've had to resort to "sporks". :laugh: But, as you can see, I find that laughing at my situation keeps my spirits up. I do best if I don't dwell on it. I am not MS. It just follows me around like a rude salesperson.

:laugh::laugh:Gotta love it
 

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Good mornin' Rave. If you know the story of the spoons, hope you have plenty of them today.
The Spoon Theory
by Christine Miserandino
ButYouDontLookSick.com: A community for support, education, and inspiration.
My best friend and I were in the diner, talking. As usual, it was very late and we were eating French fries with gravy.
Like normal girls our age, we spent a lot of time in the diner while in college, and most of the time we spent talking
about boys, music or trivial things, that seemed very important at the time. We never got serious about anything in
particular and spent most of our time laughing.
As I went to take some of my medicine with a snack as I usually did, she watched me with an awkward kind of stare,
instead of continuing the conversation. She then asked me out of the blue what it felt like to have Lupus and be sick. I
was shocked not only because she asked the random question, but also because I assumed she knew all there was to
know about Lupus. She came to doctors with me, she saw me walk with a cane, and throw up in the bathroom. She had
seen me cry in pain, what else was there to know?
I started to ramble on about pills, and aches and pains, but she kept pursuing, and didn't seem satisfied with my
answers. I was a little surprised as being my roommate in college and friend for years; I thought she already knew the
medical definition of Lupus. Then she looked at me with a face every sick person knows well, the face of pure curiosity
about something no one healthy can truly understand. She asked what it felt like, not physically, but what it felt like
to be me, to be sick.
As I tried to gain my composure, I glanced around the table for help or guidance, or at least stall for time to think. I
was trying to find the right words. How do I answer a question I never was able to answer for myself? How do I explain
every detail of every day being effected, and give the emotions a sick person goes through with clarity. I could have
given up, cracked a joke like I usually do, and changed the subject, but I remember thinking if I don’t try to explain
this, how could I ever expect her to understand. If I can’t explain this to my best friend, how could I explain my world
to anyone else? I had to at least try.
At that moment, the spoon theory was born. I quickly grabbed every spoon on the table; hell I grabbed spoons off of
the other tables. I looked at her in the eyes and said “Here you go, you have Lupus”. She looked at me slightly
confused, as anyone would when they are being handed a bouquet of spoons. The cold metal spoons clanked in my
hands, as I grouped them together and shoved them into her hands.
I explained that the difference in being sick and being healthy is having to make choices or to consciously think about
things when the rest of the world doesn’t have to. The healthy have the luxury of a life without choices, a gift most
people take for granted.
Most people start the day with unlimited amount of possibilities, and energy to do whatever they desire, especially
young people. For the most part, they do not need to worry about the effects of their actions. So for my explanation, I
used spoons to convey this point. I wanted something for her to actually hold, for me to then take away, since most
people who get sick feel a “loss” of a life they once knew. If I was in control of taking away the spoons, then she would
know what it feels like to have someone or something else, in this case Lupus, being in control.
She grabbed the spoons with excitement. She didn’t understand what I was doing, but she is always up for a good time,
so I guess she thought I was cracking a joke of some kind like I usually do when talking about touchy topics. Little did
she know how serious I would become?
I asked her to count her spoons. She asked why, and I explained that when you are healthy you expect to have a neverending supply of "spoons". But when you have to now plan your day, you need to know exactly how many “spoons” you
are starting with. It doesn’t guarantee that you might not lose some along the way, but at least it helps to know where
you are starting. She counted out 12 spoons. She laughed and said she wanted more. I said no, and I knew right away
that this little game would work, when she looked disappointed, and we hadn't even started yet. I’ve wanted more
"spoons" for years and haven’t found a way yet to get more, why should she? I also told her to always be conscious of
how many she had, and not to drop them because she can never forget she has Lupus.

Very powerfull!!! Thanks for helping others to understand, myself most definitely!
 

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Blues... I know it must be very difficult for you to be so far away from Rave but she knows how much you care and loves you for it. When my husband has really bad episodes of his MS symptoms, there is nothing I can do for him and it just makes me feel helpless and then I have a tendency to hover too much which only adds to his stress which he does not need. As you have said many times, Rave is strong and determined and soon this bad period will ease. Hang in there! :)

Thank you, JoAnn. I appreciate your thoughts and your advice. Raven certainly is strong and determined. Oh, yes! No hovering allowed.:)
 

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Mornin' All!

I'm hangin' in there. My biggest problem seems to be that the warranty has expired on this bod of mine. Blues is right though - my spirits are in great shape. My thanks to him for that. :wub:

Anyhow - I'm about ready to build an ark to deal with all the rain we've been having. In the spirit of precipitation (and because I'm a weather freak), I submit:



Since it was so dry there this summer, I suppose your land is glad for the drink. That's some powerful footage, Rave! Thanks for sharing it.
 

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Thank you for that. I do already know the story of the spoons. I shared that with my daughter so that she would be able to understand better.

The last couple of days, I've had to resort to "sporks". :laugh: But, as you can see, I find that laughing at my situation keeps my spirits up. I do best if I don't dwell on it. I am not MS. It just follows me around like a rude salesperson.

I love it that you haven't lost your sense of humor! I especially like the "rude salesperson" simile. Feel better soon, Rave.
 

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Thank you, JoAnn. I appreciate your thoughts and your advice. Raven certainly is strong and determined. Oh, yes! No hovering allowed.:)

Now I feel sort of guilty for worrying and getting you worried, Blues. I, too, hate hovering, so I know how it feels. I'm grateful that people care, yet their concern sometimes irritates me, especially if I can do it myself but they want to help. This has come to the fore for me recently, what with my arm.
 

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Now I feel sort of guilty for worrying and getting you worried, Blues. I, too, hate hovering, so I know how it feels. I'm grateful that people care, yet their concern sometimes irritates me, especially if I can do it myself but they want to help. This has come to the fore for me recently, what with my arm.

Don't feel guilty or bad for worrying. I appreciate your concern and friendship for Raven. And so does she. When I told her you folks were asking about her and sending your thoughts and prayers her way, she wanted to come here and let you know she was okay and she appreciated your concern.

And, yes, I know she doesn't like hovering, but I do it anyway. :D
 

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I guess the most applicable thing is the old Joe South song, Walk a Mile in My Shoes, although that was more of a political message. Neither my wife or I have any serious chronic problems, other than over eating and watching our blood sugar, so it can be hard to imagine what MS, Lupus, RA or any other debilitating illness is like. I can only imagine and think of when I was about 17 and was in a taxi on the way to work and we were rear ended totaling both cars. I got out, assited the injured in the other car and helped direct traffic after the First Aid came. Went to work until nine that night (at a lumber yard), then went out a partied until about midnight, went home and went to bed. The next day I couldn't move, everything ached like nothing I had every experienced. It did go away after a few days, but I can bet that living with MS or RA is something similar only it never really goes away.
 

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Don't feel guilty or bad for worrying. I appreciate your concern and friendship for Raven. And so does she. When I told her you folks were asking about her and sending your thoughts and prayers her way, she wanted to come here and let you know she was okay and she appreciated your concern.

And, yes, I know she doesn't like hovering, but I do it anyway. :D

Blues, you must know what hovering feels like, how demeaning it can be. Please try not to. When Pat was here to help out after I broke my arm, she hovered. The worst case was once, when I was first injured and was constantly finding out new things it was hard for me to do, I was eating dinner with my left hand. Of course, Pat had to cut up my meat for me. OK, I understand that. But when I got down to the last bite on my plate, I kept chasing it around, unable to get hold of it. I was grumbling and cursing, not yet able to accept certain limitations. Finally, I just gave up. After all, I had eaten my dinner except for one last teaspoonful. What harm would it do to just leave it? Just then, Pat descended like a bird of prey with a spoon and tried to stuff that last bite in my mouth! Aargh! Being spoon-fed was worse than not eating that last bite of dinner! I am sorry to say, I lost it. I yelled at her and told her never to try that again.

I know you aren't there with Rave to spoon-feed her or whatever other form your hovering might take, but still, if it annoys her and she tells you it does, take her seriously. I know how it feels to be hovered over, and I've given it some thought, just recently having become more helpless than I'm used to being and having Pat hover in so many ways. If I told her I wanted to do it myself, let's say put on a coat, and I was struggling to do it, I wanted to keep trying till I gave up and asked for help, not have someone grab the coat and put it over my shoulder for me. I wanted to do as much as I could so I could learn to be as self-sufficient as possible. If I let people do everything for me, it would keep me more helpless. And I think hovering is a form of lack of trust in the helpless person. The hoverer doesn't believe that person can really assess her own capabilities and decide for herself whether she wants to keep doing it on her own or ask for help. It's as if the hoverer doesn't believe the helpless person can make good choices. As I said, a lack of trust in the person's ability to decide for herself.

I hope you take this the right way. It's just a subject that's come up recently in my own life and how I feel about it. I wanted to share. I guess I was hovering, too, worrying about Raven when I know her son is close by and you are in contact with her, too. I'm sorry I didn't have more trust.
 

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Blues, you must know what hovering feels like, how demeaning it can be. Please try not to. When Pat was here to help out after I broke my arm, she hovered. The worst case was once, when I was first injured and was constantly finding out new things it was hard for me to do, I was eating dinner with my left hand. Of course, Pat had to cut up my meat for me. OK, I understand that. But when I got down to the last bite on my plate, I kept chasing it around, unable to get hold of it. I was grumbling and cursing, not yet able to accept certain limitations. Finally, I just gave up. After all, I had eaten my dinner except for one last teaspoonful. What harm would it do to just leave it? Just then, Pat descended like a bird of prey with a spoon and tried to stuff that last bite in my mouth! Aargh! Being spoon-fed was worse than not eating that last bite of dinner! I am sorry to say, I lost it. I yelled at her and told her never to try that again.

I know you aren't there with Rave to spoon-feed her or whatever other form your hovering might take, but still, if it annoys her and she tells you it does, take her seriously. I know how it feels to be hovered over, and I've given it some thought, just recently having become more helpless than I'm used to being and having Pat hover in so many ways. If I told her I wanted to do it myself, let's say put on a coat, and I was struggling to do it, I wanted to keep trying till I gave up and asked for help, not have someone grab the coat and put it over my shoulder for me. I wanted to do as much as I could so I could learn to be as self-sufficient as possible. If I let people do everything for me, it would keep me more helpless. And I think hovering is a form of lack of trust in the helpless person. The hoverer doesn't believe that person can really assess her own capabilities and decide for herself whether she wants to keep doing it on her own or ask for help. It's as if the hoverer doesn't believe the helpless person can make good choices. As I said, a lack of trust in the person's ability to decide for herself.

I hope you take this the right way. It's just a subject that's come up recently in my own life and how I feel about it. I wanted to share. I guess I was hovering, too, worrying about Raven when I know her son is close by and you are in contact with her, too. I'm sorry I didn't have more trust.

Aw SandySu - please don't think that I took any offense because you were worried. Actually, I found it very heart-warming. And, it made me feel even closer to you. Thank you for that.

Blues doesn't "hover". He gives me just the right amount of concern and trust. He knows when I'm having a rough time, and keeps me company. He doesn't constantly bombard me with questions about how I feel, and I treat him in the same way. We both have issues. Neither of us want to dwell on those issues. We both have ways of easing those issues for each other even though we are hundreds of miles apart.

The truth is: I've never had anyone hover over me or take care of me since I was a small child. Even when I've needed it and really wanted it! Sometimes people assume that strong individuals never need help. Sometimes they do. Sometimes it would be an enormous relief to be able to just relax and focus on getting better instead of having to always be strong.
 
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