CHIT CHAT in VOLTVILLE

[Raynes]

I'm not a horse person, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate horses. The thing that really impressed me, besides the synergy between horse and rider, was the agility of the horse. A horse weighs the better part of a quarter to half a ton and being able to reverse directions that fast multiple times is amazing!

I'll never forget how I learned to cut cattle, Mr. Montgomery put me on his cutting horse ,put a full grown bull in there complete with horns and closed the round pen gate. Needless to say the bull wasn't happy,the horse Tivio was having the time of his life, and I was hanging on for dear life.

 

[Raynes]

This song puzzles me, where it stands in my like/dislike list. It sounds interesting, but what does it mean? It reads like "Finnegan's Wake" turned into poetry. I think this was made during their drug phase, and it probably made sense to them at the time.

It was written during their drug phase, but the lyric that really catches me is "He's got to be good looking cause he's so hard to see." Now if you take that lyric and listen to the rest of the song to me it makes sense.

 

[Bluesman]

OK, I read up on it in Wikipedia (I love Wikipedia) to see if I could figure out what it meant. Interestingly enough, someone thought it was a rip-off of a Chuck Berry song -- Chuck Berry - You Can't Catch Me (Rock Rock Rock 1956) - YouTube -- What do you think? I hear similarities, but is it actually the same song? I think not.

Early before rock n' roll became the big thing, was the blues. And for the most part it was the black musicians who were writing and playing the music. It was darn near impossible to get their records and albums because they could not record in the white music studios.

They had their own recording studios and some just recorded on reel to reel tape. It was the the black blues where the first forms of rock were heard. The English bands and musicians loved that music and they started doing it in their own style. You will often hear a likeness between the early rock musicians and the blues songs and musicians. As a matter of fact, it still goes on today.

The blues went in two directions, rock and roll, and rhythm and blues.

 

[SandySu]

I'll never forget how I learned to cut cattle, Mr. Montgomery put me on his cutting horse ,put a full grown bull in there complete with horns and closed the round pen gate. Needless to say the bull wasn't happy,the horse Tivio was having the time of his life, and I was hanging on for dear life.

It sounds like a baptism by fire. I'm glad you survived.

 

[SandySu]

Here's another Beatles song I really like. And the commentary underneath (not the comments) is interesting background. The Beatles- A Day in the Life - YouTube

 

[Raynes]

That is amazing! You did that? I really hope you fullfill your dream in the very near future.

JoAnn yes, I really did it,that was part of my job when I worked on a ranch. When the calves were old enough to be weaned we cut them out of their herd, vaccinated,dewormed,whatever. Since these were registered cattle they were used in other cattle ranchers breeding programs.
Thank you so much for your encouragement. I'm trying,this Sunday if its not raining I will be mounting two of my own horses I'm working with Jae and Kola. (Kola is my avi) if the pain isn't too bad I'll ride them a little.In Jan. I hope to have Jae working a reining pattern that's to get me synchronized with her.

 

[Raynes]

It sounds like a baptism by fire. I'm glad you survived.

I was scared to death but Tivio took care of me. He was a great horse he loved his job. Mr. Montgomery won three trophy saddles with him so I was in good "hooves". Tivio would feel me lean,"catch" me and keep on going but I had never been so glad to see a gate open in all my life. I don't think you could have pried me out of that saddle with a crow bar and I had a death grip on that saddle horn.
I;ve had Tivio spin out from under me several times when I wasn't paying attention and we were working calves and I know he did it on purpose no human can teach riding better than an experienced horse IMO

 

[SandySu]

Early before rock n' roll became the big thing, was the blues. And for the most part it was the black musicians who were writing and playing the music. It was darn near impossible to get their records and albums because they could not record in the white music studios.

They had their own recording studios and some just recorded on reel to reel tape. It was the the black blues where the first forms of rock were heard. The English bands and musicians loved that music and they started doing it in their own style. You will often hear a likeness between the early rock musicians and the blues songs and musicians. As a matter of fact, it still goes on today.

The blues went in two directions, rock and roll, and rhythm and blues.

OK, Blues, with the name you chose, you must be really into that old-time blues, so which is your favorite? Muddy Waters is famous, but I'm not sure I really like his stuff. Some of it sounds sort of dreary.

Not a black guy, but here's one I like: one Bourbon one Scotch one Beer - George Thorogood - YouTube

 

[SandySu]

JoAnn yes, I really did it,that was part of my job when I worked on a ranch. When the calves were old enough to be weaned we cut them out of their herd, vaccinated,dewormed,whatever. Since these were registered cattle they were used in other cattle ranchers breeding programs.
Thank you so much for your encouragement. I'm trying,this Sunday if its not raining I will be mounting two of my own horses I'm working with Jae and Kola. (Kola is my avi) if the pain isn't too bad I'll ride them a little.In Jan. I hope to have Jae working a reining pattern that's to get me synchronized with her.

Reining! Such a neat discipline. In case some of you don't know what reining is, here's a video showing an excellent performance, made even more remarkable by the rider doing it all without a saddle and bridle. Stacy Westfall 2006 - YouTube

 

[rave]

Hi Volties!

There has been so much catching up to do - great music and some funny stuff too. And, there are so many things that are going on in your lives that I can't possibly cover it. I only wanted to tell you that I'm doing my best to pull myself up by the bootstraps. I'd be here more often if I weren't struggling. You folks that know me are aware of that, so I won't try to say that everything is just dandy. I do want to join in on the fun. I will as soon as I feel that I'm fit company. You are all in my thoughts and I do miss you. Blues is still in constant contact with me and keeping my spirits up. He's good at that, as I'm sure you've noticed. I'm okay, and will be better soon I'm sure.

 

[Raynes]

This is the sire of three of my colts. Foothills Beau Dunit working a reining pattern. Foothills Beau Dunit - YouTube

Rave,I sure do miss you. Keep hanging in there. REST,do what you need to do for YOU HUGSSS
OK I have bored you good people long enough and bragged to I guess,I sure didn't mean to do that so if I come off like I am I apologize. I'm just hyped up at the possibility of being able to ride again so please forgive me. What you see Beau Dunit doing in this video is what I hope to be doing with Jae in Jan. Reining is more for the rider than the horse IMO but I have to train myself to this before I can cut cattle. If you were to dissect the moves you saw in the cutting video you'd see they are pretty much the same.

 

[Renolizzie]

Reining! Such a neat discipline. In case some of you don't know what reining is, here's a video showing an excellent performance, made even more remarkable by the rider doing it all without a saddle and bridle. Stacy Westfall 2006 - YouTube

That was incredible!

 

[Bluesman]

OK, Blues, with the name you chose, you must be really into that old-time blues, so which is your favorite? Muddy Waters is famous, but I'm not sure I really like his stuff. Some of it sounds sort of dreary.

Not a black guy, but here's one I like: one Bourbon one Scotch one Beer - George Thorogood - YouTube

George Thorogood and Stevie Ray Vaughan are probably some of the most well known modern day American blues men.

I grew up in the city, very very poor. I was born into poverty. There were two black men who lived near me. I would go to their house and talk with them. That was unheard of at that time. Whites and blacks did not mix, even if we all were poor. The one man played blues music for me and would tell me stories about the musicians. The other man taught me about the game of baseball. We used to listen to baseball games on his AM only transistor radio.

I started listening to blues in the 1950s. I really don't have a favorite, but here are some I was listening to back then. Magic Sam, Elmore James, Willie Dixon, Big Mama Thornton, Sonny Boy Williamson, John Lee ......, James Cotton, and on and on. I still like to listen to the stuff. But I've followed the steady progression into rock and roll, and the rhythm and blues.

It's all good music.

 

[SandySu]

That Thorogood song got me thinking of alcohol-themed songs, and this oldie came to mind: The Kingston Trio - "Scotch and Soda" 1958 MONO - YouTube

 

[Raynes]

Reining! Such a neat discipline. In case some of you don't know what reining is, here's a video showing an excellent performance, made even more remarkable by the rider doing it all without a saddle and bridle. Stacy Westfall 2006 - YouTube

WHEW Sandy, I can't aim that high. You can when your shoulder gets well. Heck I'm too old even to think about that

 

[SandySu]

This is the sire of three of colts. Foothills Beau Dunit working a reining pattern. Foothills Beau Dunit - YouTube

Rave,I sure do miss you. Keep hanging in there. REST,do what you need to do for YOU HUGSSS
OK I have bored you good people long enough and bragged to I guess,I sure didn't mean to do that so if I come off like I am I apologize. I'm just hyped up at the possibility of being able to ride again so please forgive me. What you see Beau Dunit doing in this video is what I hope to be doing with Jae in Jan. Reining is more for the rider than the horse IMO but I have to train myself to this before I can cut cattle. If you were to dissect the moves you saw in the cutting video you'd see they are pretty much the same.

Raynes, I, for one, love hearing about your horse exploits. That's a lovely stallion and some beautiful foals. I really like the buckskin foal (Are there 2 buckskin foals? It's hard to tell, but I think there might be.). Is this a stallion you know? Reining is something else I'd love to try someday. It's not too far off from dressage, which I've dabbled in for years.

 

[Renolizzie]

Gee, horse lovers, I'd be happy if my horse liked me and didn't shy at stuff

The good news is that no matter where you are at in life [or animal training] there is always more to learn and new places to go. The bad news is that there is always more to learn You are never done.

The other good news is that we don't have to be Stacy because, although we can all dream the impossible dream, most of us will just be on the trail to the impossible dream and not actually managing to accomplish the impossible dream. Luckily, life is about the journey, not the destination.

 

[SandySu]

WHEW Sandy, I can't aim that high. You can when your shoulder gets well. Heck I'm too old even to think about that

I'll never get there, either. I've done some bridleless work with Penny, but of course, nothing like that. For a while, after my Centered Riding dressage instructor stopped teaching, I took lessons from a Western guy. I still rode English in my dressage saddle, but we could work on the basics. We started using a neck ring and trying bridleless. Funny thing, I could steer Penny when we agreed we wanted to go in that direction, but when she'd rather go back to the barn and I wanted to head away from it, sometimes she played dumb. Suddenly, she "forgot" how to be steered by my seat. Yet if I had reins, she would easily go in the direction she didn't want to. It was obvious that she thought she didn't have to listen to me unless she had a bridle on. Maybe if I had started bridleless work when she was younger, she wouldn't have made such a distinction. It's weird how horses connect things. Early on, I taught her to stand still with no tack on so I didn't have to worry about her walking away when I was bridling her. Having to loop the halter around a horse's neck so they stay put while you put the bridle on is such a pain! Having learned this, at some point years later, I tried to teach her to be led by me just holding a piece of her mane, and she wouldn't budge till I put the halter on. She was totally confused, since I'd taught her too well to stay put in one spot when the halter came off and until something else (the bridle) went on her head instead.

 

[Bluesman]

This is the stuff:

 

[SandySu]

Gee, horse lovers, I'd be happy if my horse liked me and didn't shy at stuff

The good news is that no matter where you are at in life [or animal training] there is always more to learn and new places to go. The bad news is that there is always more to learn You are never done.

The other good news is that we don't have to be Stacy because, although we can all dream the impossible dream, most of us will just be on the trail to the impossible dream and not actually managing to accomplish the impossible dream. Luckily, life is about the journey, not the destination.

If a person is into horses and they learn nothing else, learning the meaning of that last statement is what it's all about. Well said.

Why do you think Wiseguy doesn't like you? I bet he does, even if he has his own agenda sometimes and it seems like you are both working at cross purposes. I think if you have your horse at home and feed him and care for him every day, you are working at a huge advantage that Penny & I lack. Sure, Penny likes me, but she knows who feeds her, and it isn't me.