CHIT CHAT in VOLTVILLE

[White Rabbit]

I sent Bill Godshall an email thanking him for his testimony before the FDA, and I understand that he was at a Vapefest in 2010. He is an ex-smoker and vaped for a couple of hours at the event using zero nicotine in an e-cigarette. Although he works for an organization called Smokfree Pennsylvania, he is on our side in promoting personal vaporizers as an alternative to smoking.
I believe his email address is as follows. I got it off of and old internet posting:

smokefree@compuserve.com

Here is a link to his commentary after being at Vapefest in Fredericksbury VA:

http://vaporetti.com/index.php?route=extras/blog/getblog&blog_id=21

 

[Element_Baz]

Anyone still watching?

 

[White Rabbit]

Sorry folks, my head aches from listening to this

......Pharmacokinetic bracketing provides an opportunity for pragmatic evaluation of Bio-equivalence.....

Funny thing is the longer I listened to this esoteric pharma gibberish the more I seemed to understand it.

I am just going back in my wabbit hole and take a long winters nap.

 

[Element_Baz]

Sorry folks, my head aches from listening to this

......Pharmacokinetic bracketing provides an opportunity for pragmatic evaluation of Bio-equivalence.....

Funny thing is the longer I listened to this esoteric pharma gibberish the more I seemed to understand it.

I am just going back in my wabbit hole and take a long winters nap.

haha, i know the feeling. this speaker gives me a headache, the lady who sounded like she was going to cry made a vaild point i think. at least to me she seems like she wasn't really for or agains smokeless e-cig, but more for a strong regulation of them.

from what I've heard today, the e-cig isn't really regulated, and companies are required to say that their product is only for adults 18 or older if they choose to have an adult only targeted audience. Seems like the gasstations or wal-marts out there, are just going based on the fact that they look like cigs, therefore we sell them as cigs, but nothing would legally stop them from selling to a minor.

Did i gather all that right?

 

[Konstantine]

Let me guess.
They could not find a more ridiculously stupid system to stream live video?
The killing machine has money to move the world but not to stream a decent video?

My grandma does it better.

 

[Konstantine]

Uh!
There is a nice dumb lady with a bj voice too!

 

[Element_Baz]

The people giving the questions, need to learn how to word their questions...

 

[Element_Baz]

Uh!
There is a nice dumb lady with a bj voice too!

i was thinking the same thing!!!

 

[JoAnnW]

That voice! She is driving me crazy!!! 8-o

Now I see why the FDA classified the electronic cigarette as a tobacco product. They may ACTUALLY believe they contain tobacco!!

Lord! I'm getting a headache from watching this mess!!!! I have to stop for my own sanity.

 

[CatLady007]

Let me guess.
They could not find a more ridiculously stupid system to stream live video?
The killing machine has money to move the world but not to stream a decent video?

My grandma does it better.

Um, K., what are you referring to as "the killing machine"?

 

[Konstantine]

Um, K., what are you referring to as "the killing machine"?

The FDA off course. Everyone on this planet know what's the FDA about.

It's stupidity overflow, i'll rest my ancient greek god body by sleeping a bit and be back soon

 

[Element_Baz]

"Why did you mention that e-gics would be banned under section 9?"
"Someone already mentioned it, but because most of the companies that have it right didn't exsist before 2007"

Paraphrase of course but damn!
Know your stuff lady, and pay attention!

 

[marlou]

The questions being asked by the panel are not indicating a high level of intelligence.

When one of them actually used the phrase 'common sense' I almost lost it.

 

[White Rabbit]

I have almost come to the sad conclusion that the FDA will end up regulating almost everything that has a remote connection with tobacco, nicotine or smoking. But can they legally justify regulating a box mod personal vaporizer that is being utilized with a USP food grade generic liquid containing no nicotine?

I don't they even realize that an 8 year old can go to Radio Shack and purchase all of the items necessary for a Box Mod PV for less than $10.00 and make some generic juice (whether it tastes good or not) using USP Glycerine from WalMart and flavors from hundreds of supliers. Prohibition did not work for alcohol or drugs and it won't work for smoking or guns for that matter.

OK through ranting. Have a Nice Day!

 

[Butch]

The questions being asked by the panel are not indicating a high level of intelligence.

When one of them actually used the phrase 'common sense' I almost lost it.

These are government bureaucrats we are talking about. Intelligence nor commonsense are to be found among them. They just want to make it look like they are doing something to justify a paycheck, never mind who it hurts.

 

[Element_Baz]

I understand what bj voice lady is trying to say. and i dont think he's understanding fully. To answer appropriately would be to point out that you can develop smokers cough with in the time that e-cigs have been active. She's wondering if it's possible to tell that tobacco has harmful effects in 6 years or so. Being a trap question of course. the answer is yes, and the trap therefore avoided.

 

[Element_Baz]

this guy is a smartass hahaha

 

[Dovahkiin]

That is ok the people conducting the hearing don't understand what is going on either.

That is so true it funny!

 

[Dovahkiin]

Best thing that could happen to this country is get rid of all the alphabet soup government agencys & let people take care of themselves. Most people I know don't really need a nanny.

Now that what I was thinking.

 

[marlou]

I don't know if the members of the panel don't understand the benefits of NRTs and smoking alternatives or if they are just not concerned with it. They showed the most interest in labeling and nicotine levels. I don't expect them to do anything but more of what they always do......regulate something out of existence.