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I can vape 54MG platinum ice PG nic.....when I do that I feel I'm close to what a cig used to give me. boB
That's so strange... what kinda cigs did you smoke? Tim smoked pretty strong rolling tobacco with prefiltered tubes, but he was OD'ing on 18mg! Seems like the nicotine in juice has a much different effect on him...
 

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Frisco doesn't help me.

Actually, it makes me think of either gay people marching or Rice a Roni.

Edit note: Descriptors that help me: sweet, bitter, floral, dirt, ashy, grass, etc.
LOL! Sounds a lot like "tasting" wine or beer... using words like oaky, buttery, peaty, etc...
 

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LOL! Sounds a lot like "tasting" wine or beer... using words like oaky, buttery, peaty, etc...

Heh, some of the juice reviews actually do remind me of a wine tasting. I always giggle a bit at those since I never pick up the subtle nuances I'm supposed to.

Me at a wine tasting:
"Holy crap, that's awful...did you pee in a jar?"
"I think I caught a grape flavor there."
"Battery acid, pure battery acid."
 

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Actually, those sound like my first tries at DIY :) (let's just leave it at my tob1 was "robust" -- do NOT use 10% TA )
Heh, some of the juice reviews actually do remind me of a wine tasting. I always giggle a bit at those since I never pick up the subtle nuances I'm supposed to.

Me at a wine tasting:
"Holy crap, that's awful...did you pee in a jar?"
"I think I caught a grape flavor there."
"Battery acid, pure battery acid."
 

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Heh, some of the juice reviews actually do remind me of a wine tasting. I always giggle a bit at those since I never pick up the subtle nuances I'm supposed to.

Me at a wine tasting:
"Holy crap, that's awful...did you pee in a jar?"
"I think I caught a grape flavor there."
"Battery acid, pure battery acid."




hehehe My neighbor is the wine buyer for a large liquor store here. She always has a glass and a bottle of wine nearby - she brings the stuff she really like home to actually drink and not spit out. Or extra stuff she hasn't had time to taste. She's tried for 7 years to teach me to appreciate wine. Might as well be the cheap communion stuff - it all tastes like grape juice, hints of grape juice, battery acid or vinegar to me. No finer nuances (and yes spell check was needed to spell nuance!)
 

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Heh, some of the juice reviews actually do remind me of a wine tasting. I always giggle a bit at those since I never pick up the subtle nuances I'm supposed to.

Me at a wine tasting:
"Holy crap, that's awful...did you pee in a jar?"
"I think I caught a grape flavor there."
"Battery acid, pure battery acid."
LOL! That's me too. Maybe I could develop my pallate to taste those things, I dunno. But when it comes to wine, it's "that's good, give me some more!" or "blechh" last thing I found that I really loved was a muscat canelli.
Actually, those sound like my first tries at DIY :) (let's just leave it at my tob1 was "robust" -- do NOT use 10% TA )
Is TA the tobacco flavoring?
 

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Yes, I use the Perfumers Apprentice Tobacco Absolute diluted (diluted means in pure grain alcohol). It's a very strong flavoring, to me, but does really nicely as an adder to other things (just a couple drops per 10 ml in something with Capt Black or Seedman Commercial). I think the PA Kona coffee flavor is similar -- gotta use it gently, as a plus-up not the main flavor.

(Then again, I'm a newbie, dumb as a sack 'o rocks :) )
 

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My sister in law has made it a point to drag me through some local wineries (within 2 hours) when she and my MIL come to visit each Summer. I passed this year because they friggin came the weekend before school started for the boys and I had a crapton of things to do with/for them. Of course, not there fault that I'd been a bit preoccupied the weeks before due to my BIL's heart attack(s) and helping my sister.

This year they hit part of the Bourbon Tour (Makers Mark, Heaven Hill and someplace else) and then hit Elk Creek. I still have 2 bottles of wine sitting in my fridge. No idea what to do with them.

How's the little one's teeth today?
 

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Yes, I use the Perfumers Apprentice Tobacco Absolute diluted (diluted means in pure grain alcohol). It's a very strong flavoring, to me, but does really nicely as an adder to other things (just a couple drops per 10 ml in something with Capt Black or Seedman Commercial). I think the PA Kona coffee flavor is similar -- gotta use it gently, as a plus-up not the main flavor.
Making tobacco flavors is a bit more complex than the sweet flavors, isn't it? Did you find a blend that works for you? How long did it take to work out?
 

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My sister in law has made it a point to drag me through some local wineries (within 2 hours) when she and my MIL come to visit each Summer. I passed this year because they friggin came the weekend before school started for the boys and I had a crapton of things to do with/for them. Of course, not there fault that I'd been a bit preoccupied the weeks before due to my BIL's heart attack(s) and helping my sister.

This year they hit part of the Bourbon Tour (Makers Mark, Heaven Hill and someplace else) and then hit Elk Creek. I still have 2 bottles of wine sitting in my fridge. No idea what to do with them.

How's the little one's teeth today?
I would love to go on a wine tasting tour! Although, I don't do it right... I always swallow! (oops, that sounds wrong somehow, doesn't it? lol!)

She's doing well, so far... watching her between the lions while I drink my coffee (we've gotten a little turned around on our schedule, just got up about an hour ago...)
 

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Probably two weeks -- I went too strong, then too weak, close, now I'm pretty happy. I like all of the Seedman Top Note flavorings. For simple tobacco, 15% Seedman Commercial concentrate (not the diluted version), nic to whatever your target is, PG as filler, and 4 drops of the "TA diluted" per 10 ml of final mix. If you really want lots of vapor, no more than about 10% VG, maximum -- I'm content with the vapor, like the taste and TH, even with 0 VG.
Not sure what the coop is buying for TA -- I hope it's the diluted version.
 

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Probably two weeks -- I went too strong, then too weak, close, now I'm pretty happy. I like all of the Seedman Top Note flavorings. For simple tobacco, 15% Seedman Commercial concentrate (not the diluted version), nic to whatever your target is, PG as filler, and 4 drops of the "TA diluted" per 10 ml of final mix. If you really want lots of vapor, no more than about 10% VG, maximum -- I'm content with the vapor, like the taste and TH, even with 0 VG.
Not sure what the coop is buying for TA -- I hope it's the diluted version.
Well, that's not too bad of a learning curve! We're looking forward to DIY... you'll have to let me pick your brain again when we get set up. ;)
 

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The Hunters blend has been revamped too..The first time i tried it, it was as close to an analog Ive tasted..the ashyness, not floral notes. So i was digging it. BUT it did have a slight menthol on the exhale. Don said he toned down the whole menthol thing. So anyway, I like the ashy tobacco flavor, and hunters is a great one with a good amount of flavor...probably my fav tobacco aside from honey flu nut double shot.
 

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aSharp: here a wine tasting and tour isn't as exciting when they refer to the barrels as "havin' been put up a year or so ago" Wineries are coming back to the area after 120 yrs. So the oldest, aren't very old at all. That's why my SIL wante dot go back to Elk Creek. We went 2 years ago - they'd been open 2 years. She wanted to see what it looks like now. They'd been making wine with grapes grown in Michigan.

Now bourbon is a whole other monster!
 

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Well, that's not too bad of a learning curve! We're looking forward to DIY... you'll have to let me pick your brain again when we get set up. ;)

Mark has been so helpful to me as I dive off into this fun world of mixology. I also recommend sending time in the DIY section of these forums; especially this thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/74109-guide-diy-flavoring.html

It is a bit of an information overload so start now and it will all come together. I feel pretty comfortable going into DIY now. And all I can see is that it is quite fun!
 
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