Cisco's laser MOD, OMG!!!

[eplanet]

Hello all,

Two weeks ago I had the honor of receiving a laser mod personally delivered by Cisco...He looked a little tired, it was later in the day and he spends hours on his lathe. I suppose spending hours in a basement making MODs can take its toll, However he does have the largest cache of various MODs that I have ever seen. He spends tireless hours searching for devices to modify...Yes he is obsessed!!! and it shows in his craftsmanship.

(oops, I went of on a tangent)

So, I have had this laser mod for 2 weeks and I am under the assumption that he uses crazy glue on these thing because it has not left my hand! I am using it with a solarflare (103) atty and loving it. With the cigar battery it lasts me most of the day and it is wonderfully small in size.

Cisco, keep doing what you are doing!!! and thanks for coming out of the basement to stop by... LATHE ON DUDE!!!

 

[Taylor]

I love that mod. I bought one from another member here (he gave the credit to Cisco) and it's terrific. I also got 5 of those laser pointers coming (whenever DX decides to send them) to make myself.

 

[Bandit]

Edit...nevermind, search is my friend.

 

[Lazarus]

I love that mod. I bought one from another member here (he gave the credit to Cisco) and it's terrific. I also got 5 of those laser pointers coming (whenever DX decides to send them) to make myself.

Same here, ordered mine of 8/5, just got a ship notification today.

Must me a hot item ATM

 

[Mak]

Was wondering - I have all the parts to make this mod, being that these batteries (10440) are unprotected, how will we know if we discharge them to much vaping? Will it not damage them?

 

[Lazarus]

Was wondering - I have all the parts to make this mod, being that these batteries (10440) are unprotected, how will we know if we discharge them to much vaping? Will it not damage them?

You know I was thinking the same thing until I found out that the Li-ion batts in my camera, cell phone, PCC, portable phone, laptop, ipod, and probably a number of other devices I own ATM are "Unprotected". I stopped being so concerned.

I know there are some reports of people being injured from these batteries, but they seem to be far and few in between the zillions...yep zillions of unprotected batteries in use every day out there.

The idea of these batts being so close to your head/face being dangerous is, well, hmmm maybe a bit over blown (sorry for the lack of a better term). I'm not going to worry until vapers start dying off regularly from battery explosions.

Oh, were you just talking about damaging the battery ??

 

[Nuck]

You know I was thinking the same thing until I found out that the Li-ion batts in my camera, cell phone, PCC, portable phone, laptop, ipod, and probably a number of other devices I own ATM are "Unprotected" I stopped being so concerned.

I know there are some reports of people being injured from these batteries, but they seem to be far and few in between the zillions...yep zillions of unprotected batteries in use every day out there.

The idea of these batts being so close to your head/face being dangerous is, well, hmmm maybe over blown (sorry) for the lack of a better term. I'm not going to worry until vapers start dying off regularly from battery explosions.

The devices you mention have the protection circuit in them so in effect they are protected. Running unprotected batteries with no protection circuit in the device is not recommended unless the user is aware of the dangers.

 

[eplanet]

The devices you mention have the protection circuit in them so in effect they are protected. Running unprotected batteries with no protection circuit in the device is not recommended unless the user is aware of the dangers.

what are the dangers?

 

[d0kieSmok]

explosion and possible death or blindness.. using unprotected batteries is very dangerous, and i personally would never think about doing it.. in an enclosed space it would be a pipe bomb right next to ur face, or in your pocket next to the most important organ of all!
I think the ecigar batts are unprotected but the devices they were designed to be used in have a protection circuit to cut the connection when a certain voltage is reached.

 

[Lazarus]

The devices you mention have the protection circuit in them so in effect they are protected. Running unprotected batteries with no protection circuit in the device is not recommended unless the user is aware of the dangers.

If this is true, then how have the reports of the injuries (burns, even deaths) explained the failure of these "protection circuits" you speak of.

These few stories have been well publicized around the world. Is this just a failure of the protection circuitry? If so then are protected and unprotected equally at risk ?

 

[need_2quit]

Was wondering - I have all the parts to make this mod, being that these batteries (10440) are unprotected, how will we know if we discharge them to much vaping? Will it not damage them?

These would probably work if they fit in the laser casing. I haven't a clue how to wire them, but ppl on here would know.

DealExtreme: $1.19 Charge/Discharge Protective Circuit Board for Rechargeable Li-Ion Batteries (13.4mm*1.7mm)

Charge/Discharge Protective Circuit Board for Rechargeable Li-Ion Batteries (13.4mm*1.7mm)
Price: $1.19

 

[Cisco]

what are the dangers?

2 dangers:

Over-Charging

Don't use a crappy charger. Make sure it is specifically for lith-ions and has charging protection built in. Once they are charged the charger no longer sends any current to the battery, you could leave them in there for a week, unlike NiCds and NiMHs that charge to full and then constantly trickle charge until the batterys are removed.


Over-Discharging:

Vaper production will drop off to 0 way before the battery reaches this level.

IMO, Both myths busted, There is no real concern but be aware that on a rare occasion there is a chance for battery failure, asdthere is with protected cells also.Its been hyped up here so much that ppl are scared to use them. Well maybe trogg should be banned for selling his Screwdriver with unprotected cells and also recommending ppl not to use protected cells.

Just a thought

Cisco...

 

[Cisco]

These would probably work if they fit in the laser casing. I haven't a clue how to wire them, but ppl on here would know.

DealExtreme: $1.19 Charge/Discharge Protective Circuit Board for Rechargeable Li-Ion Batteries (13.4mm*1.7mm)

Charge/Discharge Protective Circuit Board for Rechargeable Li-Ion Batteries (13.4mm*1.7mm)
Price: $1.19

These are nice but.....

They need to be spot welded to the battery contacts, you should never use a soldering gun on a lith cell. after installation you need to wrap the battery or battery pack with shrink wrap to protect the wire bands and the circuit.

Cisco...

 

[d0kieSmok]

other factors besides over charging/over depleting can cause an explosion. Some people abuse their laptops and also leave them in the sun.

 

[Cisco]

other factors besides over charging/over depleting can cause an explosion. Some people abuse their laptops and also leave them in the sun.

Agreed , The reason I said to still be aware of the potential danger, allthou rare, and even with protected cells. You dont have to put on a hazmat suit to use these batterys.


Cisco...

 

[Lazarus]

BTW Cisco, This is a great freaking mod

 

[Cisco]

BTW Cisco, This is a great freaking mod

Thanks Lazarus......


Cisco...

 

[Mak]

Well,
I think that Cisco's mod is awesome (thanks for sharing!) and am willing to give it a try.
Was just wondering, having not used this mod, what to expect? When the voltage or actually the power (voltage plus amperage) to the atomizer reaches a low level will the user know that the battery is at it low limit before possible damage to the battery can occur?
Currently the batteries for the 510 cut out when they are at the low end. Being that the batteries for this mod do not - as a user - will I notice the drop off before it might get to a dangerous level? Do those of you who have used it, do you notice this drop off of production?
I believe that the battery is somewhat protected from the user within a metal case and the user should notice a heat buildup long before an actual failure. However the failure of the battery itself may happen if it falls below its low limit thus making the battery unchangeable.
Am I wrong on this assumption?

 

[Cisco]

You will stop producing vapor way before the battery gets to a dangerous discharge level. If your still not comfortable you could drill a few vent holes in the bottom of the shell near the end cap.

Cisco...

Well,
I think that Cisco's mod is awesome (thanks for sharing!) and am willing to give it a try.
Was just wondering, having not used this mod, what to expect? When the voltage or actually the power (voltage plus amperage) to the atomizer reaches a low level will the user know that the battery is at it low limit before possible damage to the battery can occur?
Currently the batteries for the 510 cut out when they are at the low end. Being that the batteries for this mod do not - as a user - will I notice the drop off before it might get to a dangerous level? Do those of you who have used it, do you notice this drop off of production?
I believe that the battery is somewhat protected from the user within a metal case and the user should notice a heat buildup long before an actual failure. However the failure of the battery itself may happen if it falls below its low limit thus making the battery unchangeable.
Am I wrong on this assumption?

 

[Mak]

Cisco,
Thanks for the reply.
I have two batteries, one in my passthrough and another I bought as an extra.
Do you feel the passthrough will charge the battery significantly (use it as a charger) or should I invest in another charger (not sure how long the passthrough takes to charge it - no LED)? Being the passthrough has a bad switch (works every 2nd or third try) it is pretty useless right now.
Might just scavenge the connector but I have a 401 USB charger that will work as far as a connector. Hum, maybe I can use the 401 USB charger as an acutal charger with modifications of course. What do you think?