Apologies for coming in late I have been flying cross country and the Internet connection at the Holiday Inn where I am now is terrible. In any case I'm disappointed that this discussion has gone south.
It shouldn't be this difficult. The "thing" where ever its located on the ECF can and will match Pledging Individuals with Sponsors and Applicants on any planet, continent, country or even City of their choice. So boarders should never ever be an impediment to getting people in need Kit to help them stay away from the stinkies.
Sir: With respect; the definition / understanding of a brokered transaction is only correct if there is payment for the services rendered by in this case, the Sponsor. If we consider a warm and fuzzy feeling for doing the right thing as payment then we have broken the rules. If anything the Sponsor would be required to cover shipping costs - negative compensation....... sounds more like volunteerism / activism.
I understand Chelly's frustration not because of the other members but because of system that keeps backing us into each other and we end up being frustrated with each other because we're the only ones in the conversation and sometime there is no progress.
SO let me design a page / thread / sub-forum have it reviewed by members who have expressed an interest in making this happen and we will revert.
Tobacco is for prayer not recreation
Many words have more than one meaning. As you can see below, there's no mention of monetary gain.
Broker: a person who functions as an intermediary between two or more parties in negotiating agreements, bargains, or the like.
Broker | Define Broker at Dictionary.com definition #2
So brokering in the Classifieds will not be allowed for any reason. Not allowing brokers resolves 2 issues, 1. People can't bypass the Verified Member process we work so hard to develop and enforce, and 2. It prevents members from coming in and buying up all the items posted for people they have on a list that want a certain item (this happened and was the catalyst for the rule).
As I said before, the treasure chest idea you have will not be in the Classifieds. The Classifieds is for buying/selling/trading, surely you must see that "giving" doesn't fit within this theme. So feel free to create a Social Group as PIF has done. The instructions are here
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...groups-plus-social-groups-now-functional.html
Keep in mind, how you aquire the items for the treasure chest can be considered unwanted solicitation either by the member or a supplier. So you should be careful how you acquire the items.
the meaning of my speech is a little more complicated, i do not speak of juice, i'm talking about people who buy in european forums - where you can not sell used price higher than new - and then resells on ecf at outrageous prices. the practice is somewhat shabby and relying irrationality of compulsive buying should be removed, if really vaping is designed to defeat a dangerous drug and not to give people other addictions.
So you are saying we should protect the "irrational compulsive" buyer from themselves? So what responsibility should be buyer have or should we assume all responsibility? The Classifieds is buyer beware, meaning you need to do your own reasearch and make purchases with an educated decision and if you don't, you might not be pleased with your purchase.
We've discussed this pricing issue to no end. Everything so far that has been suggested either won't work or it would consume so much time we would have to quit our jobs just to keep up with it. So, I'm not quitting my job, the pay here sucks
Trust me, something will come soon for the profiteers but patience will be required, it won't happen overnight.
This is not a "PIF" discussion as there is no concept of payment here.
I am sincerely interested in all input so would ask where would you suggest this thread be transferred to?
The member was reiterating what I said earlier, this isn't PIF nor does this suggestion thread have anything to do with PIF but the subject keeps coming up and I wanted it stopped. I don't apprecite loading the thread to find that the post has nothing to do with the Classifieds.
This thread won't be transferred, it's my thread and I use it for Classified feedback. So you'll have to move your discussion elsewhere because I'm keeping my thread, I'm stingy like that
See the link above and create a social group and start your own discussion regarding your idea.....Thank you
. This new idea is a LOT more far-reaching than any PIF has ever attempted (or in this case, not attempted) to be. It's really so far off base to even be talking about PIF in relation to this idea that it's foolish to be wasting my finger strength to type these words right now. And thus I am done with my rebuttals on this topic, I think I've made my point, and the facts of the matter, quite clear.
