"clearomizer" round up for 808s...

[kico166]

It seems to be, but there have been several minor versions of the "Stardust" that their batch is probably a little outdated.

ok - Thanks! I just got a new one last week (one last try of these things). It has a longer wick. From what I've been reading here and looking at the Clearo under a magnified (hobby) light - it looks like the tip (that get unscrewed to fill) doesn't always go back on that inner part correctly. That appears to be where MY leaks are coming from.

I snipped one of the condoms/covers to fit inside - it stopped one that had been leaking. Able to refill with it in place. Just wiggled it up a bit BEFORE replacing tip. Also took the inner silicone ring from under the hard cap (Mystic brand) and slipped in - it worked great - maybe a little thick - unsure of pressure in screwing cap back down. A bit harder to get thicker juice to slide down. So far - so good. I am aware that too much pressure from screwing vapor tip down is not good. One of the new Clearo's separated from the main tank the first time I opened to refill it. That part worries me so not sure if using the Mystic ring is such a good idea.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

While 808 type gear is not quite the red-headded stepchild of vaping, it doesn't get the attention of manufacturers as well as some of the other gear.

Are there things we 808 enthuesiasts can to to help bring a little more development attention our way? Do we need to? What do you see out there with other fittings that you'd like to see brought into the 808 realm?

Just punting here folks...what do you think?

 

[KDude]

Probably not much to do unless KR808s become a sort of defacto entry device for new vapers (it almost is, but in a way, 510s are still popular, and especially Egos), and companies want to tap into that market for their "upgrade path". It's in the hands of vendors, I think. It's in their interest too.. Volt does a good job at offering a line of products that help retain their customers, V4L is doing it now. Halo doesn't, but I think they should. People love sticking with favorite brands, but not if they outgrow them. They should also release 808 based VV mods. Volcano does this with their 510s, all the way up to the Lavatube. I think that's pretty cool.

I don't know if there's anything about the connection itself that makes a big difference?

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Probably not much to do unless KR808s become a sort of defacto entry device for new vapers (it almost is, but in a way, 510s are still popular, and especially Egos), and companies want to tap into that market for their "upgrade path". It's in the hands of vendors, I think. It's in their interest too.. Volt does a good job at offering a line of products that help retain their customers, V4L is doing it now. Halo doesn't, but I think they should. People love sticking with favorite brands, but not if they outgrow them. They should also release 808 based VV mods. Volcano does this with their 510s, all the way up to the Lavatube. I think that's pretty cool.

I don't know if there's anything about the connection itself that makes a big difference?

...good summary analysis! Some think the 808 is more durable per it's larger size. As well, at the entry level it seems to be standardized on 3.7 Volts for the 808 gear. Smokeless Image offers a good product. Most of the non-line-specific products seem to be offered in 510 or variants there of. That's a good thought about the 808 based VV mods. I've seen where a product or two offers changable top caps, 510 or 808.

 

[IndyJones]

atomizers and VV option are what i feel like i have missed being an exclusive 808 user. i've been tempted to get an ego twist, which means i need a charger and to use my cartos and clearos i need a 510 to 808 adapter. Or to just try atomizers i need to get an 808 to 510 adapter, or is it 510 to 808 ....... my head is spinning.

 

[Charlz]

I don't want to think about how sales of 901 attys went down when 808s switched over to "sealed" center posts. And Kanger (who is the Kr in kr808) is putting more effort in developing 510 hardware these days.
The only thing 808s have over 510 is a better auto...whether it's a 180mah or a 1300mah. And regulated voltage. The kr8s were also the first slims to come off the charger at 4.2v. So they work better, for longer and come in both regulated voltage or hot off the charger at 4.2v. And an auto battery that doesn't suck or die with an accidental drop of juice. But that's it.

I do believe 901 attys still work with 808 manuals but someone else will have to verify that as I don't own a 808 manual. If you have an auto battery with an open un"sealed" post they do work with 901 attys. I think you can still get them at V4l. The regular ones, not the Titan line. I have one from 2 years ago that still works well.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I don't want to think about how sales of 901 attys went down when 808s switched over to "sealed" center posts. And Kanger (who is the Kr in kr808) is putting more effort in developing 510 hardware these days.
The only thing 808s have over 510 is a better auto...whether it's a 180mah or a 1300mah. And regulated voltage. The kr8s were also the first slims to come off the charger at 4.2v. So they work better, for longer and come in both regulated voltage or hot off the charger at 4.2v. And an auto battery that doesn't suck or die with an accidental drop of juice. But that's it.

I do believe 901 attys still work with 808 manuals but someone else will have to verify that as I don't own a 808 manual. If you have an auto battery with an open un"sealed" post they do work with 901 attys. I think you can still get them at V4l. The regular ones, not the Titan line. I have one from 2 years ago that still works well.

The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural...

 

[Charlz]

The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural...

Somebody needs to lower their mg, I think.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I keep lowering it, but the hit keeps getting more intense!

 

[kico166]

CoolBreeze - great idea - suggesting SI add a VV to their line. Perhaps they are waiting for bugs to be worked out. Perhaps they don't want to get too big with too much inventory to keep stocked (given economics).

This afternoon I spent with the newer Clearomizer (longer wick). I have come to the conclusion as long as I keep it under 1.4ml I don't get the leaking onto the battery. Just refilled now. I think tomorrow when it comes time to refill, I'm going to take that extra lil "gasket" out and see if it still works as well. In the meantime: off to place my order!

The other 3 "kids" still leak - about every 3rd to 4th vape I am unscrewing and swabbing juice.

 

[skelley]

With the CE4+'s (Stardust types), check the top metal ring to ensure that it's seated all the way down on the plastic outer tube. It's been a long time since I've used these, but once when I was tightening the tip, I heard a pop.
That's when I noticed the leaks began and upon further inspection, the metal ring popped up which wouldn't allow the tip to make contact the silicone seal on the post.
I then use to check before filling, by tapping the tube upside down on the table to ensure that it was seated and then used a pick to lightly lift the top tube seal as a precaution.
Something to look for.

I'm an exclusive CE3 user nowadays as trimming the wicks and raising the center post on them just works for me.

 

[KDude]

I have nothing tying me down to 808 other than mah really. I like that you get close to 3 hours or so out of them (Halo G6 and similar models). Not sure if 510s do that (at the same size). I might pick up a 510 for dripping. I've never actually used one.

 

[skelley]

You can never have enough batts, just ask the wife. I was working out of town and she got hit by a big storm that took out the power for 8 days.
She was able to vape the entire time without having to use a charger
And the good news, she couldn't charge her cell phone, so I got to do a lot of uninterrupted drinking at the hotel bar

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Either 808s need to expand or 510s need to get some great gear going that's not an eGo twist or a 120 + VV mod

I really miss my 808s these days, but all I use are atomizers and RBAs which call into play the Provari (or silly Vmax when I want to unpredictably pop coils lol). The flavor step down required to use an auto, my true love, just isn't worth it, which sucks...

The good news is, a .357 901 works like dynamite on a V4L diamond or titan (the 'sealed' titan has the needed notch to fire a 901)

OK back to clearos, carry on

 

[Charlz]

Yep, if you do get a 510 for dripping, you'll want a high mah. The slim 510 has always served as nothing but a stepping stone. They don't even have any drip protected autos, let alone a slim that is powerful and long lasting. The thing too is that I've tried just about every high mah non vv 510 there is and have gotten 4-5 months of good usage out of all of them and that is including the fact I only used them for an hour or two in the evening. They weren't even getting daily charging. I was always avoiding the joye stuff because the voltage was regulated too low.

With the twist, I have enjoyed some of the 510 hardware a little more and even had a day or two where I barely touched my echos.


As soon as 808 comes out with something better than the ce4/turbo for a big clearo, I'm sure all that will change again. They do get there eventually. Seems there is less throwing crap on the wall and seeing what sticks and more research into making sure it performs well but the wait gets annoying sometimes.

 

[KDude]

I've noticed 510 xls that are 280mah.. That doesn't sound so bad (basically the same as my kr8s, but a little bigger). I just want something handy for a little dripping and screwing on the occassional carto/clearo for a cig like form factor.

I also have a fat 510 at 450 mah, but for some reason, the airflow sucks on it (the airflow sucks on my altsmoke BB too fwiw). I use the 808s more, because have a tighter, longer draw. The size is nice though. It's not too big, like a swisher sweet cigar.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

I use a short MadVapes Rough Stack for my 510-based flavor testing. It uses an 18350 battery @ 1200 mAh. Indeed it is relatively costly, but does come in handy. I have no stick type 510 batteries.

 

[Charlz]

I've noticed 510 xls that are 280mah.. That doesn't sound so bad (basically the same as my kr8s, but a little bigger). I just want something handy for a little dripping and screwing on the occassional carto/clearo for a cig like form factor.

I also have a fat 510 at 450 mah, but for some reason, the airflow sucks on it (the airflow sucks on my altsmoke BB too fwiw). I use the 808s more, because have a tighter, longer draw. The size is nice though. It's not too big, like a swisher sweet cigar.

Mah only covers a part of the equation....how long it lasts. For some reason the slim 510s don't hold their voltage as well as a slim 808. You'll still get to use it for about 3 hrs at 280 mah with normal resistance hardware but the power drops quicker. If you look around the forums you won't find the same slim 510 enthusiasts as you find slim 808 enthusiasts.

You will find kr808 users quite often clashing with 510 users claiming the only way to a satisfying vape is large batteries and low resistance hardware.

Do experiment though. You know what you want and I don't mean to discourage. I spend time in both the 808 and 510 camp. I appreciate both because their focus is on two different things each with their own ups and downs.

Another option is a manual 808 with a 901 atty.

 

[TTK]

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Another option is a manual 808 with a 901 atty.

Actually my 901 attys work fine with my Bloog automatic.

 

[Charlz]

That's good news. Bloog is about the only one I'm not totally familiar with. Is it the "sealed" center post?

The manual though is so he can drip. Even with drip protected autos, I wouldn't do it. Not that I haven't butI have quite a collection so I can afford to live on the edge.