Clone or counterfit

[Sanddeath]

I have the fasttech kayfun lite clone. Or they say it is. But It could be a counterfit now I think about it. The box is a kayfun logo. The bottom has a kayfun logo and exact wording te original has. Other than one build aspect( the deck seems to be angled) it looks exactly like the original.

Did I buy a knockoff/counterfit?

 

[sacullen]

You bought a clone. Don't want to start a war of words, but for all intents and purposes you bought a counterfeit version of the Svoemesto Kayfun. Many people, myself included, order items from Fasttech because they are much cheaper than the original items and typically have excellent performance.

 

[drippaboi]

In a word, yes.

Without arguing semantics, a clone is a knock-off. If they call it a 1:1 then it's a direct copy.

There's already too many clone debates out there which all come down to the same conclusions: Clones aren't going anywhere any time soon. If it bothers you, spend the extra dough and be sure to get an authentic. If it doesn't bother you, go ahead and buy them. If it sort of bothers you, look for "Original Design _______ Style" atomizers.

Vote with your dollar.

 

[roxynoodle]

Counterfeit: writing/name/logos of authentic are copied as well as design.

Clone: very similar design, but no fake logos, writing, etc.

 

[Sanddeath]

Yeah. Thought so. I can't sell it here then. Even though I was gonna give it away. Oh well, might just store it or toss it.

 

[WillyZee]

Yeah. Thought so. I can't sell it here then. Even though I was gonna give it away. Oh well, might just store it or toss it.

what's wrong with it? ... why not use it?

 

[twall]

I always saw a clone with logos AS a counterfeit. Never stopped me buying one. I also have several "replica" Rolexes. Also counterfeit. But I love them all the same.

 

[crxess]

I have the fasttech kayfun lite clone. Or they say it is. But It could be a counterfit now I think about it. The box is a kayfun logo. The bottom has a kayfun logo and exact wording te original has. Other than one build aspect( the deck seems to be angled) it looks exactly like the original.

Did I buy a knockoff/counterfit?

You went to Fasttech
You paid 1/5-1/8 the cost of an original
You did not notice the Description Says Kayfun STYLED
No, You bought a Knock-off, a Counterfeit would be sold as an Original at a high price with intent to defraud.

If you feel ripped off, you should blame yourself, not Fasttech. If you were hoping you got a good deal, well I'd think so.
I have 6 Fasttech Kayfuns, all $14 or less and they all work great. I always have all of them in my rotation with different builds and flavors.

 

[McFeely]

I see it more like this

Counterfeit: Labeled an Authentic Kayfun and sold for the price of an Authentic Kayfun but in reality a clone.
Clone: Labeled a clone and sold for way less than an authentic.

 

[twall]

I must disagree. Like PC"clones" they were almost identical to the IBM PC, but no "PC" designation, or IBM logos. They were and are "clones". Nearly identical to what they are copying.

A counterfiet is a clone that uses the copied products' logos, and is unauthorized to do so. Even if they are not being SOLD as gen, they are still ripping off the trademarked logo. Even if a fake Rolex is being SOLD as a " replica", they still rip off every logo and security measure. They are counterfeit, regardless whether they are sold as such, or being passed off as gen.

 

[Sanddeath]

I don't care for it. And doesn't work too well for me. Gonna get a Lemo

 

[twall]

Clone or counterfeit, they vape about the same. Perhaps it's the whole "Kayfun" thing, and not its authenticity that is the problem.

Kayfuns can be a real pain. They have a learning curve that makes mountain climbing look tame.