Clone: Sentinel Mechanical Mod

[Telescope Neil]

nope, it all came out from the box. I actually thought it was aluminum too at first then the guy that sold me this said it actually is SS. The weight of the sleeve itself tells it all, you could tell when you've held an alu version and it feels waaay better in my hand.

 

[Dtori]

Ordered an all brass version and a Private v2 from FT today.. Ive been using them a lot lately. I have a Vamo on its way from them also... If I like the Private i might try to order a Stainless version from vaportek..

 

[retrox]

is he a member here?

let us know what he tells you please...

thanks

Haven't heard back from Ibrahim, if he's a member here I don't know his username. I did find THIS though: Long story short, this guy tests the Chen under load with silver vs. brass pin and only gets a .02 benefit with the silver. So probably not worth the effort. I think this thing's about as hot as it's gonna get!

The SS one is very cool, I wonder if hcigar is making that one too...?

 

[RPadTV]

After two weeks of use, the lock button on my all-brass model doesn't screw all the way down. It goes far enough that it won't wire, but won't screw into place. This happen to anyone else?

 

[Zak Rabbit]

After two weeks of use, the lock button on my all-brass model doesn't screw all the way down. It goes far enough that it won't wire, but won't screw into place. This happen to anyone else?

Make sure the firing button hasn't loosened causing a large gap. That's what happened on mine.

Sent from...ah...wait....wut?

 

[Dtori]

Wow I just looked at vapor labs website. They carry the real V3 and Private V2... The real V3 is all aluminum and you can get it in anodized colors. However it is $199.99 plus if you want anodized it is +$60. I just cant help but think that I could buy 10 of the knock offs, have all brass construction and with 10 of them I would be better off than buying 1 original one for $200!!!

 

[Roccov]

Haven't heard back from Ibrahim, if he's a member here I don't know his username. I did find THIS though: Long story short, this guy tests the Chen under load with silver vs. brass pin and only gets a .02 benefit with the silver. So probably not worth the effort. I think this thing's about as hot as it's gonna get!

Thanks for the post. Not worth the investment for only 0.02 volt gain IMO besides the upgrade would probably cost more than the device itself.

 

[FnMag]

I can't find it... How do I disassemble the switch?

 

[SaraP]

Ordered an all brass version and a Private v2 from FT today.. Ive been using them a lot lately. I have a Vamo on its way from them also... If I like the Private i might try to order a Stainless version from vaportek..

Vaportek has a stainless steel version? I've only seen the aluminum one on there. I got my private v2 from vaporbreak and it's pretty nice. It feels a little more solid than the aluminum/brass sentinel clone. Vaporbreak took longer than fasttech would have, so I think I'm going to wait and see if FT gets the m16 before I order it somewhere else.

 

[Mack813]

man maybe after a month of use my threads on mines cant hold down any tank or rda i put on top of it when i tighten the v3 the atomizer on top always pops off i thought maybe it was the threads on the atomizer but after putting different tanks on it and all them popping off i came to the conclusion it isn't the tanks its the v3...

anybody else had this problem?

 

[Telescope Neil]

the threading on the aluminum version really is bad, it tends to break down overtime since aluminum really isn't a hard metal.

 

[the4thpower3]

Vaportek has a stainless steel version? I've only seen the aluminum one on there. I got my private v2 from vaporbreak and it's pretty nice. It feels a little more solid than the aluminum/brass sentinel clone. Vaporbreak took longer than fasttech would have, so I think I'm going to wait and see if FT gets the m16 before I order it somewhere else.

No Vaportek did not get stainless steel Private V2 or M16 - they were originally posted as stainless steel in their description - then they changed it to aluminum (of course after I already ordered both). They are still nice, but I would suggest if you want them for the cheapest price - wait for Fast Tech. They already have the Private V2. https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10005273/1423000-private-v2-telescoping-mech-mod-e-cigarette
Just FYI - my Sentinel Clones I ordered from VaporBreak are made by Hcigar.
The Private V2 and M16 Clones I got from VaporTek - I don't believe are made my Hcigar. They came in different boxes with different "satin" bags. They also have different o-rings and different top center pins.

 

[retrox]

Just FYI - my Sentinel Clones I ordered from VaporBreak are made by Hcigar.
The Private V2 and M16 Clones I got from VaporTek - I don't believe are made my Hcigar. They came in different boxes with different "satin" bags. They also have different o-rings and different top center pins.

A customer service rep at Fasttech confirmed that the ones being sold there are also not made by HCigar. There seems to be a few different versions of these things at various vendors, which would explain why we see some with engraving, others with silver plated pins, and still others with neither. It's all very confusing.

My aluminum threads are stripped. I set the mod down sideways (very lightly) on a pile of clothes for a minute today, then realized my AGA was hanging off at a funky angle when I picked it up. Now it won't torque down at all. The bottom threads in the 510 connection are smooshed. I have been as gentle as I can be with it, so there ya go. That connector is definitely the critical flaw in an otherwise solid mod. I'll probably end up drilling out the cap and fitting a SS 510 connector in there this weekend.

 

[the4thpower3]

A customer service rep at Fasttech confirmed that the ones being sold there are also not made by HCigar. There seems to be a few different versions of these things at various vendors, which would explain why we see some with engraving, others with silver plated pins, and still others with neither. It's all very confusing.

My aluminum threads are stripped. I set the mod down sideways (very lightly) on a pile of clothes for a minute today, then realized my AGA was hanging off at a funky angle when I picked it up. Now it won't torque down at all. The bottom threads in the 510 connection are smooshed. I have been as gentle as I can be with it, so there ya go. That connector is definitely the critical flaw in an otherwise solid mod. I'll probably end up drilling out the cap and fitting a SS 510 connector in there this weekend.

Thanks for the info on the FastTech items. It's tough to tell who's making what. Every company on Alibaba sells virtually the same products - but they are all different and using the same stolen pics from originals. I have an Oddy clone that looks like a clone of a clone of a clone. Even the box was cloned with different text. I haven't been able to match it up anywhere else... weird.

That sux about the threads - I have a feeling that is going to happen soon on mine - some attys won't even thread on at all now. The aluminum is so soft that the attys with bigger/wider threads have opened up the connector threads so other smaller threaded attys just wallow around in there.

I posted this pic in the Setups thread - but might as well put it here too

 

[PinoyBoy]

Thanks for having both the ERA clone and the V10 immortalizer clone both on the same picture and both on a sentinel; I've been looking for a side-by-side comparison.

How do you like the phoenix V10? How is it compared to the Igo-L?

Sorry for instagramming the crap out of your picture.

 

[Lando80]

Fast tech now has an all brass m16 for $16. This clone game is moving super quick and its hard know which manufacturer is making what. I believe vapor tek is working with sigelei on all of their clones. I've read that the threading is interchangeable with other sig mechs. My m16 shipped from vapor tek today so I'll post when I know. It would be nice if a) Sigelei is contracting all of these clones for VT, and b) all the threading is universal. Maybe they will start selling individual pieces so an aluminum top cap could be replaced by an all brass or even the adjustable air flow cap from the 18xxx bagua clone that ships next week. Talk about a frankenmech--- brass grand vapor button, vela tube, adjustable air flow brass 18xxx Bagua top cap!!

 

[the4thpower3]

Thanks for having both the ERA clone and the V10 immortalizer clone both on the same picture and both on a sentinel; I've been looking for a side-by-side comparison.

How do you like the phoenix V10? How is it compared to the Igo-L?

Sorry for instagramming the crap out of your picture.

No problem bro.

The ERA clone actually performs pretty well - I like the 3 little airholes - good for mouth hits - but not enough flow for lung hits.

The V10 is decent steel. It's not designed the same as the Immortalizer at all. Just the sleeve that "looks-like" the Immo.
For a dual wick it's kinda weird that it only has one airhole. I bought 2 cuz the were pretty cheap.
But just like all the Fast Tech clones - the o-rings are subpar. It doesn't leak, but some of the o-rings peel. One is tighter than the other. The top cap is pretty difficult to get off - but that doesn't really matter as you never really need to take it off. I'm not sure why they didn't just make it a one piece design - would've been cheaper and easier to make.
The hole is also positioned rather high for the lead posts - so you have to leave some legs and build your coils a little higher.
I drilled another hole in one of them for testing. It does work better. But it's quite airy. The stock hole is like 5/64" - probably the biggest airhole I've seen on a cheap china clone. I drilled the second hole the same size.
I think I prefer it with one air hole and single coil.
I think the igo-L's steel, finish and o-rings are better quality. But I had to drill out the igo-L's airhole a little.
I think the V10 looks cooler than the igo-L.
The dual coil capability is nice if that's what you want - I really think you need 2 air holes for dual coils.
I think I'm gonna order one of these Trident Clones from FT to try out (I would order a couple but they are on the expensive side for cheap clone.
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1418702
These will obviously look good on the GV clones. If you want dual coils - this would probably be the best bet. Adjustable airflow sleeve - dual airholes..looks pretty good to me

 

[the4thpower3]

Fast tech now has an all brass m16 for $16. This clone game is moving super quick and its hard know which manufacturer is making what. I believe vapor tek is working with sigelei on all of their clones. I've read that the threading is interchangeable with other sig mechs. My m16 shipped from vapor tek today so I'll post when I know. It would be nice if a) Sigelei is contracting all of these clones for VT, and b) all the threading is universal. Maybe they will start selling individual pieces so an aluminum top cap could be replaced by an all brass or even the adjustable air flow cap from the 18xxx bagua clone that ships next week. Talk about a frankenmech--- brass grand vapor button, vela tube, adjustable air flow brass 18xxx Bagua top cap!!

Sigelei doesn't list any GV type clones on their website - so I doubt that's where VaporTek got them from.
The M16 and PV2 threads are not the same as the Sigelei 19. Almost, but not quite - I already tried it.

The Sigelei Baugua (Chi-You) clone that Vaportek is pre-ordering may have the same threads at the 19 or other Sigeleis.

 

[Lando80]

Sigelei doesn't list any GV type clones on their website - so I doubt that's where VaporTek got them from.
The M16 and PV2 threads are not the same as the Sigelei 19. Almost, but not quite - I already tried it.

The Sigelei Baugua (Chi-You) clone that Vaportek is pre-ordering may have the same threads at the 19 or other Sigeleis.

Thanks for the info. Bummer about the GV clones not being compatible with the Sigs. Guess i will be drilling out that aluminum top cap and dropping in a decent 510 connection

 

[the4thpower3]

Thanks for the info. Bummer about the GV clones not being compatible with the Sigs. Guess i will be drilling out that aluminum top cap and dropping in a decent 510 connection

I'm leaning towards just buying a couple of those brass m16 clones and swapping parts around