Clone Versus Authentic Discussion
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Ditto, and by the way, that was an authentic.
Also, it appears that the "Warning, Kanger" thread helped over twenty thousand people, got a comeback to that? Maybe we should head "outside" with this thread, it ain't gonna change.[/QUOTE]
Care to explain? A view is not helping people. It's a click.
counterfeit vape gear was probably just part of the illegal counterfeit goods they offer ... funny how folks are cool with buying counterfeit goods but chicken out when it comes to counterfeit money.
it's all the same in the illegal counterfeit game ... it's all meant to deceive honest people.
I'm not sure those were tax dollars spent wisely. An assault team was probably going overboard if this is a B&M like any around here. A few agents with a search warrant would probably have sufficed
They are in NYC the main target for terrorists and counterfeit items are money makers for them. Are we forgetting this is Homeland security.
Any more trolling, pot stirring or antagonizing won't be handled with a posted warning to quit.
You don't listen...then you don't get to play.
Enough !
You don't listen...then you don't get to play.
Enough !
I need to find a clear polycarbonate tank for my KF4's. I kind of like to see all the inside of it. I over heated one of mine trying to make it clear instead of frosted. I ordered a couple from Fasttech for back-ups but want to get one sooner. Anyone know who sells them in the US?.
Tobecco? Try evcigarettes.com
I just bought some Lemo and UD parts from them, and thought I saw Tobecco k 4 stuff.
That swat team-like picture is a stock picture found all over the Internet and is being used by the reporting website to sensationalize the story.
That's good to know. I was like, is this a vape shop or a money laundering front business?
Has anyone seen any further info?
Well, I certainly wouldn't be believing anything from vapeaboutit.com.
Vapers seem to think themselves so above it all, but from what I've seen they're just as capable of brainwashing and being brainwashed as anybody else, maybe more so.
Well, I certainly wouldn't be believing anything from vapeaboutit.com.
Vapers seem to think themselves so above it all, but from what I've seen they're just as capable of brainwashing and being brainwashed as anybody else, maybe more so.
I haven't checked again, but so far that's the only report I've seen. I admit, I'm no longer a news junky. I'm depressed enough about my illness and loss of my career. Shortly after having to retire, there was a news story about some woman putting her baby in the microwave. That was pretty much it for me, and I rarely watch or read news now.
I am with ya Rox, I don't watch the news at all .. I have to protect what little faith I have left in live on this planet. Reading this thread didn't help either
Yes, like roxynoodle suggested, evcigatettes has them for $3.99 each.
For the same of an argument, I don't buy that theory.
Gilead, a company that has recently, as of 2 years ago come out with a lifesaving drug for Hepatitis C Victims. The price is astronimcal. $55,000 for a 12 week course of treatment. Doctors in the medical field are in an uproar. Thousands are dying worldwide due to the abnormally high cost of this drug. No one can afford it unless they have a lot of money since only a small number of patients only require 12 weeks.
The medical field has tried to intervene but Gilead claims, hell, we invented it, it cost us money, etc.
Patients that are poor or on welfare plans are denied it as are most Private Plans. Only the wealthy with expensive plans are covered.
Meanwhile they are gauging Westerners and giving it away almost free in countries such as Africa. Egyptians for some reason can get the 12-week treatment for $900. Yes, thats $54,300 less than everyone else.
Meanwhile, people are dying daily the world over!
The Medical Association is working with other companies to bring a drug to market that will cure people, at a reasonable rate. A "clone" of Gilead's drug, Sovaldi.
Apparently the last time a company pulled this trick of gauging, it was with HIV patients. We know how many died in the first wave of the 1980s.
I can promise you that if your child came down with Hep C or you wouldn't hesitate to get ahold of whatever "cloned" medication existed, in order to save his/her life.
Extreme example?
Perhaps but its all relative.
If I needed that drug, I'd be extremely grateful for the "cloned" medication.
I just found out that these Kayfuns were that expensive. Never looked into them before but i would not hesitate to buy a cheap clone if only to see IF i liked it. If I loved it i would then consider the $200 purchase but not sure.
Can someone please suggest the BEST known clone on FT IF such a clone exists? But as ask this I really want one that works as close to the original as possible for i have never tried one.
I have bought enough attys that I dont like and am not willing to put out yet another $200 for an item I may hate.
If it helps to point me to the right one, still learning rebuilding. Not yet mastering coils on the Delta II that don't have a dry hit but have experienced, what I conider to be fantastic taste on the Delta II EVEN only at 23-25, rather than higher at 30-40 and am not into clouds.
If someone can point me in the right direction and oh, preferably, one that doesnt have to take tools to to make better.
Have seen the $15 make one thread which is an option but IF i can get one that is equal to the real one, than at least I would know if I wanted to either spend $200 IF i loved it that much or not?
If considered "uncool" to do so, feel free to PM me
T.I.A.
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Looking on FT and i dont see such a clone. Where do you buy them? I would have to buy either from China or a store in Toronto??
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Shel,
Are you wanting a Kayfun 4 or a Kayfun Lite? Seems like either would be dissapointing if you like the Kanger Subtank Mini; but maybe you didn't like the Subtank.
Are you wanting a Kayfun 4 or a Kayfun Lite? Seems like either would be dissapointing if you like the Kanger Subtank Mini; but maybe you didn't like the Subtank.
I just picked up a KBox; very impressive and a good value. Matches nicely with the Subtanks of course and honestly don't need anything more. A lot of value there.
I have 2 Kayfun V4's that are perfect, made by Tobeco. Got mine on eBay for $21.50 each. If you want to try these, I'd suggest the Tobeco oneFor the same of an argument, I don't buy that theory.
Gilead, a company that has recently, as of 2 years ago come out with a lifesaving drug for Hepatitis C Victims. The price is astronimcal. $55,000 for a 12 week course of treatment. Doctors in the medical field are in an uproar. Thousands are dying worldwide due to the abnormally high cost of this drug. No one can afford it unless they have a lot of money since only a small number of patients only require 12 weeks.
The medical field has tried to intervene but Gilead claims, hell, we invented it, it cost us money, etc.
Patients that are poor or on welfare plans are denied it as are most Private Plans. Only the wealthy with expensive plans are covered.
Meanwhile they are gauging Westerners and giving it away almost free in countries such as Africa. Egyptians for some reason can get the 12-week treatment for $900. Yes, thats $54,300 less than everyone else.
Meanwhile, people are dying daily the world over!
The Medical Association is working with other companies to bring a drug to market that will cure people, at a reasonable rate. A "clone" of Gilead's drug, Sovaldi.
Apparently the last time a company pulled this trick of gauging, it was with HIV patients. We know how many died in the first wave of the 1980s.
I can promise you that if your child came down with Hep C or you wouldn't hesitate to get ahold of whatever "cloned" medication existed, in order to save his/her life.
Extreme example?
Perhaps but its all relative.
If I needed that drug, I'd be extremely grateful for the "cloned" medication.
I just found out that these Kayfuns were that expensive. Never looked into them before but i would not hesitate to buy a cheap clone if only to see IF i liked it. If I loved it i would then consider the $200 purchase but not sure.
Can someone please suggest the BEST known clone on FT IF such a clone exists? But as ask this I really want one that works as close to the original as possible for i have never tried one.
I have bought enough attys that I dont like and am not willing to put out yet another $200 for an item I may hate.
If it helps to point me to the right one, still learning rebuilding. Not yet mastering coils on the Delta II that don't have a dry hit but have experienced, what I conider to be fantastic taste on the Delta II EVEN only at 23-25, rather than higher at 30-40 and am not into clouds.
If someone can point me in the right direction and oh, preferably, one that doesnt have to take tools to to make better.
Have seen the $15 make one thread which is an option but IF i can get one that is equal to the real one, than at least I would know if I wanted to either spend $200 IF i loved it that much or not?
If considered "uncool" to do so, feel free to PM me
T.I.A.
EDIT:
Looking on FT and i dont see such a clone. Where do you buy them? I would have to buy either from China or a store in Toronto??
I'm not trying to start any argument or debate here;but, to answer the question....yes.
huge difference between a medication that can save your life and an item that is both not necessity to love; and has several less expensive alternatives.
and I say that as someone with a medical issue that requires daily adaptive technology and multiple medications, .
however, I am one who buys a clone to test and then buys the authentic; so, I'm not disagreeing on what your position is clones; just, saying your comparison is off in my opinion.
on to your atty issue. I've heard good thong about both the tobeco and infinite.
however, if you like the Subtank odds are you wilL not like the kayfun...any kayfun.
might I suggest the lemo2, similar build, MUCHO more airflow and mucho more vapor production. Best part is its mucho more cheaper at 35$ vapordna has them in stock
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well I guess I will speak on clones, I have only been Vaping a few months. I bought a nautilaus mini because I heard it was great I could not get the darn thing to work , it leaked it spit it did everything but vape . I continued to use a little evod tank on my eleaf 20 watt Istick THEN one day I bought a new batch of coils and low and behold the nautilaus mini became a trooper I use it constantly.
my next purchase was a kayfun 4 I paid 57.00 dollars I didn't know it was a clone I didn't even realize clones existed -well problem is after I finally figured out how to make a coil and even had it glow a time or two and managed to flood the kayfun4 I am unable to get it back to even close to working is this because the gear is bad or because I am too new to even know what I am doing. had I known it was a clone I would not have bought it-why not-because if it wasn't working I would be pretty certain it is my inexperience and not the equipment. But then again I doubt I would put out a couple of hundred dollars for a piece of equipment I am too green to use. and last but not least I am way to inexperienced to recognize an authentic piece from the real thing- still I do wish the fellow would have told me it was a clone-I guess all the buying and selling helps someone's economy.
my next purchase was a kayfun 4 I paid 57.00 dollars I didn't know it was a clone I didn't even realize clones existed -well problem is after I finally figured out how to make a coil and even had it glow a time or two and managed to flood the kayfun4 I am unable to get it back to even close to working is this because the gear is bad or because I am too new to even know what I am doing. had I known it was a clone I would not have bought it-why not-because if it wasn't working I would be pretty certain it is my inexperience and not the equipment. But then again I doubt I would put out a couple of hundred dollars for a piece of equipment I am too green to use. and last but not least I am way to inexperienced to recognize an authentic piece from the real thing- still I do wish the fellow would have told me it was a clone-I guess all the buying and selling helps someone's economy.
For a Kayfun 4 clone, Tobeco, Infinite, HCigar or EHPro should work well, and let you know if you would like an authentic.
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