"Clones" are actually the REAL THING
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It just adds another level of issues we have to deal with in classifieds.
You can buy them from vendors, that's up to you. Just can't be sold on our classifieds.
That would be because they covered themselves with the necessary patents required... I think you can throw REOs in that mix as well...
I just went to the USPTO web site and nothing come up in a search for a patent on the Provari. Do you hapoen to have a patent number? The company's name doesn't come up in their search engine either.
How about this, found it in a quick search with Google
PROVARI - Reviews & Brand Information - ProVape Incorporated Monroe, WA - Serial Number: 85607126
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Well, if that is the case, than I cant see how anyone would say owning such a cute little putty cat would be immoral.
How about this, found it in a quick search with Google
PROVARI - Reviews & Brand Information - ProVape Incorporated Monroe, WA - Serial Number: 85607126
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That's only a trademark for the name "Provari", not a patent for the design of the device. But thanks for posting that info.
Came across this today
Dear Retailers, We have become aware that a Chinese manufacturer by the name of Shenzhen Hcigar Technology Co., Ltd. (Hcigar) has been illegally manufacturing and distributing low quality clones of the Surefire Vapor King mod to international retailers. Such actions are in violation of the intellectual property rights held by Surefire Vapor, LLC. Furthermore, these actions unlawfully damage our companys reputation, and hurt consumers by claiming that these inferior clones are equivalent to genuine Surefire Vapor products. Our legal team is taking immediate action to combat this problem with the intent of full legal prosecution of all parties involved, including the manufacturer, as well as all those involved in distributing these counterfeit products. Part of this action includes the use of under-cover private investigators to collect evidence of such illegal activities. Manufacturers and distributors of counterfeit products are guilty under civil law BPC 14245, which states that those who manufacture, use, distribute, display or sell goods with a counterfeit or copy of anothers trademark, may be subject to monetary penalties, injunctions, and property seizures. PEN 350 also provides that, for such activity, one is also subject to criminal prosecution, which carries a penalty fine of $10,000, and/or one year in prison; as well forfeiture of all proceeds. The federal statute Prioritizing Resources and Organization for Intellectual Property Act of 2008 cover broader acts of intellectual property piracy, and carry even heavier penalties. The department of justice has been cracking down on counterfeiting and piracy in recent months, and are actively seeking and prosecuting all parties involved in such activities. We are providing this information as a first and final warning to ultimately protect you from civil and criminal liability, because we highly value our retail partners. Our aim is to continue our mutually-beneficial relationships, and maintain a high standard for the vaping industry. In order to do so, we at Surefire Vapor LLC, have decided to take clear and immediate action to eliminate further damage to our brand reputation. Please help us protect you, and our company from the damages of counterfeiting and piracy by boycotting Surefire Vapor clones, as well as all other clones of high end personal vaping devices. Your cooperation in this matter is greatly appreciated. Sincerely, The Surefire Vapor Team
Dear Retailers, We have become aware that a Chinese manufacturer by the name of Shenzhen Hcigar Technology Co., Ltd. (Hcigar) has been illegally manufacturing and distributing low quality clones of the Surefire Vapor King mod to international retailers. Such actions are in violation of the intellectual property rights held by Surefire Vapor, LLC. Furthermore, these actions unlawfully damage our companys reputation, and hurt consumers by claiming that these inferior clones are equivalent to genuine Surefire Vapor products. Our legal team is taking immediate action to combat this problem with the intent of full legal prosecution of all parties involved, including the manufacturer, as well as all those involved in distributing these counterfeit products. Part of this action includes the use of under-cover private investigators to collect evidence of such illegal activities. Manufacturers and distributors of counterfeit products are guilty under civil law BPC 14245, which states that those who manufacture, use, distribute, display or sell goods with a counterfeit or copy of anothers trademark, may be subject to monetary penalties, injunctions, and property seizures. PEN 350 also provides that, for such activity, one is also subject to criminal prosecution, which carries a penalty fine of $10,000, and/or one year in prison; as well forfeiture of all proceeds. The federal statute Prioritizing Resources and Organization for Intellectual Property Act of 2008 cover broader acts of intellectual property piracy, and carry even heavier penalties. The department of justice has been cracking down on counterfeiting and piracy in recent months, and are actively seeking and prosecuting all parties involved in such activities. We are providing this information as a first and final warning to ultimately protect you from civil and criminal liability, because we highly value our retail partners. Our aim is to continue our mutually-beneficial relationships, and maintain a high standard for the vaping industry. In order to do so, we at Surefire Vapor LLC, have decided to take clear and immediate action to eliminate further damage to our brand reputation. Please help us protect you, and our company from the damages of counterfeiting and piracy by boycotting Surefire Vapor clones, as well as all other clones of high end personal vaping devices. Your cooperation in this matter is greatly appreciated. Sincerely, The Surefire Vapor Team
Clearly the pancakes are cloned. look at that stack.
more importantly- notice how the kitty enjoys the pancake, oblivious to the fact it is a clone of the one below it.
He simply enjoys it and doesn't care otherwise. Dare I say that we could all learn a thing or two from kitty here?
Caridwen, I've wanted to ask, and figured I'd do it here. Let's say that someone had a device that they wanted to sell or trade that was, as purchased, a counterfeit, but modified it to remove all logos/engravings. For example, a Nemesis copy that was completely sanded down smooth.
Would something along those lines be acceptable?
Poldiacs (yes there is a clone but it really is not) and the roller I wonder if they have covered themselves as well.
So they are claiming legal action and don't have a patent or trademark registered... Interesting...
In my mind these two mods prove which ones are actually made in china and which ones are not,, while they have copies now they dont comapre at all to the originals, the only people who will fall for these two being real are someone who has never seen a real one, MMVapors and Atmizoo have nothing to worry about if this is the best copies they can come up with.
No, what's ruining your reputation is charging 230 plus dollars for a metal tube and being out of stock everywhere. Unless proven otherwise, I hightly doubt that HCigar is "claiming that these inferior clones are equivalent to genuine Surefire Vapor products." Jeez, get real
No, what's ruining your reputation is charging 230 plus dollars for a metal tube and being out of stock everywhere. Unless proven otherwise, I hightly doubt that HCigar is "claiming that these inferior clones are equivalent to genuine Surefire Vapor products." Jeez, get real
Why put the logos and serials on them then?
They used to make "inspired by" mods like the sigelei pick-a-number, now they make actual clones with the logos. It's either that or so people can fulfill some strange fetish of owning counterfeit stuff.
It's hilarious that people on here think it's silly that people who create things don't want others to steal their work and produce it.
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