Sorry if I haven't been available for discourse recently. Just so much on the plate.
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Make a long list and check off everything as it gets done. And for the matters that will stay on your list, meaning they can never truly be checked off, get use to them.
JF, some people may know that I have always been a bit of a fiend with regards to flavors/liquids, but since I have been vaping your unflavored (and I am not BS'ing) I have gone through more of it than any other liquid. As a matter of fact, the only other liquid that I have completely depleted, since vaping your unflavored, is Halo's Prime 15. I am not a heavy vaper, so I am not saying I vape tons of it, but it still is my new go-to liquid.
Do I love several liquids? Yes.
Are some of those liquids what I regard as some of the best flavors available from anywhere? Yes.
Do my favorite flavors sit full or partially full while I vape the hell out of WholeCig's Unflavored? Yes.
(Edit) I have an almost full 30 mL of WC tobacco sitting here (from before you changed directions) and, uhh, I'll just say, thanks for making the unflavored! LOL
Do I love several liquids? Yes.
Are some of those liquids what I regard as some of the best flavors available from anywhere? Yes.
Do my favorite flavors sit full or partially full while I vape the hell out of WholeCig's Unflavored? Yes.
(Edit) I have an almost full 30 mL of WC tobacco sitting here (from before you changed directions) and, uhh, I'll just say, thanks for making the unflavored! LOL
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The unflavored is a bit of a revelation. Remember, if you don't like it, well, just add it to flavors you KNOW you like. It's a free-form liquid. Personally, it is in my top 3 liquids right now, so the taste of the unflavored, FOR ME, is perfect as is.
True that it's a reasonable vape Unflavoured as is, but I had some Mocha Caramel I'd mixed up too strong, and it made a perfect addition, to give a balanced Mocha-Caramel, Vanilla and Cream (which is a mix I love - VZ). Now I've mixed up a Donhill, and a French Pipe, 10ml of each, with additional VG, as I vape at 12mg habitually.
I've found that I'm satisfied with lower %'s of nicotine since I use WTA juice, and I use much less, almost a third of what I vaped before. It is a life saver, as far as ciggy cravings go. I was surprised at first, as I was sure it was in the mind, but now I'm convinced that the missing link has been found.
I don't know how much risk the WTA juice has, as far as cancer and lung problems are concerned, but for those who were/are heavy smokers it's a real god send, and certainly a safer product by far than smoking. For me it's really satisfying, and my only hope is that it becomes available, in a future utopia, to aid those who don't find nicotine only liquid a sufficient help to kick their smoking habit.
But, unfortunately, when I look at the attitude towards vaping in Europe at the moment, I see the dark clouds of a ban, or, at best,a medically controlled vaping environment. Health being the given reason, but it has a nasty smell of money lurking around and distorting the true facts, but, that is another subject entirely
I shall continue to mix my juice, as I've done since a month after I started vaping
, at first as an economy, now for pleasure, but with the addition of the wonderful WTA, which I only hope will rest available in the States. Unflavoured WTA is a real gift for me, as, to be honest, I much prefer my own mixes to those I've bought, and which train in the cupboard, unused!
One question, however, that I hope someone with a real knowledge of WTA proprieties will be able to answer: Is it better to keep WTA in the freezer, on a long term basis (say over 6 months)? I keep nicotine in the freezer, or at least that which I won't need in the near future . It seems to be the recommended procedure. So, what effect does a freezer have on WTA liquid, please?
Happy vaping to one and all, and thanks again to those who worked so hard to discover the WTA effects and the methods of extraction.
I've found that I'm satisfied with lower %'s of nicotine since I use WTA juice, and I use much less, almost a third of what I vaped before. It is a life saver, as far as ciggy cravings go. I was surprised at first, as I was sure it was in the mind, but now I'm convinced that the missing link has been found.
I don't know how much risk the WTA juice has, as far as cancer and lung problems are concerned, but for those who were/are heavy smokers it's a real god send, and certainly a safer product by far than smoking. For me it's really satisfying, and my only hope is that it becomes available, in a future utopia, to aid those who don't find nicotine only liquid a sufficient help to kick their smoking habit.
But, unfortunately, when I look at the attitude towards vaping in Europe at the moment, I see the dark clouds of a ban, or, at best,a medically controlled vaping environment. Health being the given reason, but it has a nasty smell of money lurking around and distorting the true facts, but, that is another subject entirely
I shall continue to mix my juice, as I've done since a month after I started vaping
, at first as an economy, now for pleasure, but with the addition of the wonderful WTA, which I only hope will rest available in the States. Unflavoured WTA is a real gift for me, as, to be honest, I much prefer my own mixes to those I've bought, and which train in the cupboard, unused! One question, however, that I hope someone with a real knowledge of WTA proprieties will be able to answer: Is it better to keep WTA in the freezer, on a long term basis (say over 6 months)? I keep nicotine in the freezer, or at least that which I won't need in the near future
. It seems to be the recommended procedure. So, what effect does a freezer have on WTA liquid, please? Happy vaping to one and all, and thanks again to those who worked so hard to discover the WTA effects and the methods of extraction.
True that it's a reasonable vape Unflavoured as is, but I had some Mocha Caramel I'd mixed up too strong, and it made a perfect addition, to give a balanced Mocha-Caramel, Vanilla and Cream (which is a mix I love - VZ). Now I've mixed up a Donhill, and a French Pipe, 10ml of each, with additional VG, as I vape at 12mg habitually.
I've found that I'm satisfied with lower %'s of nicotine since I use WTA juice, and I use much less, almost a third of what I vaped before. It is a life saver, as far as ciggy cravings go. I was surprised at first, as I was sure it was in the mind, but now I'm convinced that the missing link has been found.
I don't know how much risk the WTA juice has, as far as cancer and lung problems are concerned, but for those who were/are heavy smokers it's a real god send, and certainly a safer product by far than smoking. For me it's really satisfying, and my only hope is that it becomes available, in a future utopia, to aid those who don't find nicotine only liquid a sufficient help to kick their smoking habit.
But, unfortunately, when I look at the attitude towards vaping in Europe at the moment, I see the dark clouds of a ban, or, at best,a medically controlled vaping environment. Health being the given reason, but it has a nasty smell of money lurking around and distorting the true facts, but, that is another subject entirely
I shall continue to mix my juice, as I've done since a month after I started vaping
One question, however, that I hope someone with a real knowledge of WTA proprieties will be able to answer: Is it better to keep WTA in the freezer, on a long term basis (say over 6 months)? I keep nicotine in the freezer, or at least that which I won't need in the near future
Happy vaping to one and all, and thanks again to those who worked so hard to discover the WTA effects and the methods of extraction.
Great read. I wish I could answer the question about freezing, but all I can say is that since the WTA is treated in a similar manner (dilution wise) as nic only, I imagine the same rules would apply as your're still dealing with tobacco alkaloids. I've never used a freezer, and I was under the impression that was for super high strengths, but once aging, I am not sure. I was told by a flavor chemist (an eliquid maker) that he stores all of his liquids 18-24 mg in a designated fridge at about 55°, so that is my plan for long term (he's done it for over three years and re-tested them through GC-MS and they were as they were originally). My hope is that I can, ahem, hoard some WC unflaovred WTA for several years just in case.
Honestly, I've never worried about not having access to eliquid or vaping supplies in general, but this liquid in particular, and access to it, has crept a bit into my concern.
I'm hoping that in the USA WTA, as well as other products for DIYing juice, notably nicotine, will always be available. Here in Europe it's another story entirely. In France as far as I can tell nicotine is unavailable, although in the UK and some other countries it's still sold. But there will be the 'BIG DECISION' taken in the European Parliament next month as to the future of Ecigs in general. Frankly,it doesn't look very promising 
and either a medical control, with need of a Dr's prescription and a visit to a pharmacy to get hold of anything over 4ml/mg, or a ban total 
risk to be their chosen paths. So, to be honest, I've a good stock of Nicotine, but it's a whole different problem, with WTA now. It's such a revolutionary product, that has a distinctly positive effect on my vaping habits, that I really want to continue to use it, as it is a question of MY health. Time will tell, but I have nointention of returning to the, now, horrible smoky cigarette, or using ready filled cartridges from the pharmacy which is the only way I can see them 'prescribing' it.
Without going into more detail, which is already available in the apprpriate section, that's the reason for my question, and from what you say, Mr. Mann, it's not a big problem to conserve low power Nicotine enhanced with WTA. Thank you
By the way, were you talking in °F or °C ? The latter, I presume, if he uses a fridge...
Happy vaping one and all
and either a medical control, with need of a Dr's prescription and a visit to a pharmacy to get hold of anything over 4ml/mg, or a ban total risk to be their chosen paths. So, to be honest, I've a good stock of Nicotine, but it's a whole different problem, with WTA now. It's such a revolutionary product, that has a distinctly positive effect on my vaping habits, that I really want to continue to use it, as it is a question of MY health. Time will tell, but I have nointention of returning to the, now, horrible smoky cigarette, or using ready filled cartridges from the pharmacy which is the only way I can see them 'prescribing' it.Without going into more detail, which is already available in the apprpriate section, that's the reason for my question, and from what you say, Mr. Mann, it's not a big problem to conserve low power Nicotine enhanced with WTA. Thank you
By the way, were you talking in °F or °C ? The latter, I presume, if he uses a fridge...
Happy vaping one and all
I'm hoping that in the USA WTA, as well as other products for DIYing juice, notably nicotine, will always be available. Here in Europe it's another story entirely. In France as far as I can tell nicotine is unavailable, although in the UK and some other countries it's still sold. But there will be the 'BIG DECISION' taken in the European Parliament next month as to the future of Ecigs in general. Frankly,it doesn't look very promising
Without going into more detail, which is already available in the apprpriate section, that's the reason for my question, and from what you say, Mr. Mann, it's not a big problem to conserve low power Nicotine enhanced with WTA. Thank you
By the way, were you talking in °F or °C ? The latter, I presume, if he uses a fridge...
Happy vaping one and all
You got it. But remember, though not a MAJOR concern, light and air are still not the best friend to eliquid of any kind. It's not TERRIBLY detrimental or anything, but dark glass, sealed up, will still be the best option.
Man, I am sorry to read about those woes. Whether we are the only ones that care about this or not, and I don't say this to shill for WC, or to be suggesting panic, but I recommend buying while you can. In my vaping life, I have seen many products retire, or cease production. I hope that WC grows and its roots travel deeper into some good soil. I just got a 30 mL yesterday and to me, and apparently to you too, it is something special, for real.
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Your right on there. Now I've got off chain-vaping, at more than 10ml a day, using WTA juice, I don't want to go back to Nicotine only juice. And stuff like WTA you need to get from somewhere you can trust, as it's from what I've understood, a specialist chemical process, for vapers. I mean it's not something you can buy that's used for other things than doing us vapers some real good. I think that's been looked into.
As it's certainly much safer than smoking, it'd be a crime to make it a product that was...
it's really, IMO the Missing Link for harm reduction methods, and the most successful, realistic advance in that field. I'm sure it could help even real "hard core" smokers to stop.
And if it's cried on the roof tops some one somewhere, for some reason will say it shouldn't be allowed.
It is sad that progress in so many fields are hampered by possible financial losses. We could have had "clean" cars years ago, if it wouldn't have damaged the petrol industry.
And now we have this great product, that is a real, and harmless anti-smoking product, that delivers us from cravings, chain vaping, and would be an enormous aid for new vapers with problems.
I hope it's here to stay, too, as it is a special advance in the vaping history, which is an advance enormous for smokers in its own right.
As it's certainly much safer than smoking, it'd be a crime to make it a product that was...
it's really, IMO the Missing Link for harm reduction methods, and the most successful, realistic advance in that field. I'm sure it could help even real "hard core" smokers to stop.
And if it's cried on the roof tops some one somewhere, for some reason will say it shouldn't be allowed.
It is sad that progress in so many fields are hampered by possible financial losses. We could have had "clean" cars years ago, if it wouldn't have damaged the petrol industry.
And now we have this great product, that is a real, and harmless anti-smoking product, that delivers us from cravings, chain vaping, and would be an enormous aid for new vapers with problems.
I hope it's here to stay, too, as it is a special advance in the vaping history, which is an advance enormous for smokers in its own right.
Hey!! I just wanted to stop in and say THANK YOU!!! I am a week smoke free now and it's all thanks to your WTA! Using unflavored WTA has gotten me over the humps and I just wanted to sing your praises a little
you guys have made such a great product & should be so proud of yourselves! Keep up the great work & congrats on the growing business!
Hey!! I just wanted to stop in and say THANK YOU!!! I am a week smoke free now and it's all thanks to your WTA! Using unflavored WTA has gotten me over the humps and I just wanted to sing your praises a little
Man, that makes me feel good, and I am only a customer like you. I can't imagine how good that makes JF feel. Congrats, Jessermay, congrats!
Hey!! I just wanted to stop in and say THANK YOU!!! I am a week smoke free now and it's all thanks to your WTA! Using unflavored WTA has gotten me over the humps and I just wanted to sing your praises a little
That is so awesome!
Congrats!
...and thanks so much!
I think I hit the sweet spot. I almost hate writing this because I'm afraid of jinxing myself, but well, here goes...
To start with, 24mg is too strong for me. First try at WTA was mixing 50/50 with VG. A little menthol mixed in for taste. That was OK, but not quite "it".
Second batch, I mixed 50/50 with regular 12mg for 18mg nic, half WTA, 2 drops of menthol per ml. This works, it really, really works. It is so much more (something, satisfiying isn't quite the word, but close enough), than straight nicotine. I vape about half a ml of the WTA mix and maybe a ml regular liquid a day and I'm fine.
Now, in hindsight, I know that with only straight nicotine I was using too much, looking that it turns out, wasn't there. With WTA, I have cut the amount I vape at least in half and I'm feeling more clear headed than I have in a very long time.
(This isn't about quiting stinkies, I stopped smoking years ago.)
To start with, 24mg is too strong for me. First try at WTA was mixing 50/50 with VG. A little menthol mixed in for taste. That was OK, but not quite "it".
Second batch, I mixed 50/50 with regular 12mg for 18mg nic, half WTA, 2 drops of menthol per ml. This works, it really, really works. It is so much more (something, satisfiying isn't quite the word, but close enough), than straight nicotine. I vape about half a ml of the WTA mix and maybe a ml regular liquid a day and I'm fine.
Now, in hindsight, I know that with only straight nicotine I was using too much, looking that it turns out, wasn't there. With WTA, I have cut the amount I vape at least in half and I'm feeling more clear headed than I have in a very long time.
(This isn't about quiting stinkies, I stopped smoking years ago.)
You may LOVE the unflavored taste, but you MAY not like the taste of the unflavored on its own. BUT, you can add it to your other flavors. If you DIY, even better. Flavor concentrates are easily obtained to try different things with. I frankly love the taste of the unflavored, but I can totally understand why someone else may not. It's a flexible liquid that doesn't need to stay as it is to satisfy.
Hey everyone. Been away for a bit but still ordering WC unflavored WTA. So glad this stuff is here, it got me through a long tough trip.
Seems like a lot of people digging this stuff from the posts I've read trying to catch up in this thread. Good for all of you and thanks to Jeff and WC. What would I do without this stuff?
Seems like a lot of people digging this stuff from the posts I've read trying to catch up in this thread. Good for all of you and thanks to Jeff and WC. What would I do without this stuff?
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