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[Mr.Mann]

Good luck to you - just don't beat yourself up when you do smoke. It's a process and some have more difficulty than others.

Exactly!

(repost) For those of you that still struggle with smoking, still enjoy it, or still do it but desperately want to quit--I am here to say, be careful with guilt.

Guilt is defined as: 1. a. The fact of being responsible for the commission of an offense.

But let's look deeper than that. The etymology of guilt is from Middle English gilt, which came from Old English gylt, meaning crime. Smoking may not be what you want to be doing, it may piss you off that you can't quit, it may be a thorn in your side, but it AIN'T a crime! If it ain't a crime (moral or societal), maybe guilt isn't appropriate.

Difference between Guilt and Remorse

The words guilt and remorse do get used interchangeably to mean the same thing, but there is an important difference between them. Feelings of excessive guilt refer to a situation where the individual is condemning themselves for perceived wrongdoings. This differs from remorse where the individual is taking responsibility for their past mistakes. The remorseful person wants to take action to put right the things they have done in the past...

But what about remorse?

Remorse is defined as: 1. Moral anguish arising from repentance for past misdeeds; bitter regret.

Okay, maybe a bit more appropriate than guilt, but let's look deeper than that. The etymology of regret is from Middle English < Middle French remors < Medieval Latin remorsus, equivalent to Latin remord(ere) to bite again, vex, nag.

So a biting, nagging, vexing feeling based on "moral anguish"?? I sure as hell don't like anything vexing, nagging or biting; but the problem is that it comes after the fact. How useful is remorse and guilt when trying to quit something? I dunno, but in my experiences, it just made me feel bad, which lead me to needing comfort, which lead me back to that which comforted me, which began the cycle again.

I say, screw all of that and go against the grain! What is against the grain of nagging, vexing, biting, and feelings of being a criminal? Joy. Focus on that. Did you put the cigarette out one puff before you generally do? Revel in that. Did you enjoy your cig a little less today? That's progress. Did you notice more time is being spent on eliquid than counting how many cigs you have left? Roll with it.

Try to aim for more positive feelings, than trying to feel less negative feelings. If that doesn't work, guilt and remorse will always be there waiting to pounce.

 

[djezewski]

Thank you, society makes us feel guilty, thus we are remorseful of our act.

Myself I used to be a 1 pk+ per day years ago. At this point in life it was 1/2-3/4 pk. I have cut that number in half with vaping in 3 mo. I feel good about that but then of course there is the everyday flack from non-smokers. The "I don't see why you have to do that" remarks. Which in turn makes one want to go light one up. Where is freedom anymore? I am feeling better now and fall is around the corner. I get sick easily in the cold weather and get bronchitis at least 2-3 times in these last 4-5 years. If I do not get sick in the last week of Sept. it will be a record. I will be jumping up and down and giving testimonies all over FB and on here. mark my word on that.
Thank you for the support.

 

[It's Only Me]

Like blue and agree that they need to re-shoot the photos. Maybe out in natural light so that they don't have that yellow cast.

That's what I was thinking, get the yellow out of there.

 

[It's Only Me]

[snip]...So a biting, nagging, vexing feeling based on "moral anguish"?? I sure as hell don't like anything vexing, nagging or biting; but the problem is that it comes after the fact. How useful is remorse and guilt when trying to quit something? I dunno, but in my experiences, it just made me feel bad, which lead me to needing comfort, which lead me back to that which comforted me, which began the cycle again.

I say, screw all of that and go against the grain! What is against the grain of nagging, vexing, biting, and feelings of being a criminal? Joy. Focus on that. Did you put the cigarette out one puff before you generally do? Revel in that. Did you enjoy your cig a little less today? That's progress. Did you notice more time is being spent on eliquid than counting how many cigs you have left? Roll with it.

Try to aim for more positive feelings, than trying to feel less negative feelings. If that doesn't work, guilt and remorse will always be there waiting to pounce.

This is good. This is very good. Thanks.

 

[jfresh]

That's what I was thinking, get the yellow out of there.

I'll tell Rick his photos were roundly viewed as crappy. He used to be a photographer, so that should shame him most satisfactorily.

heehee.

 

[It's Only Me]

I'll tell Rick his photos were roundly viewed as crappy. He used to be a photographer, so that should shame him most satisfactorily.

heehee.

Uh Oh...now I'm in trouble with Rick.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I'll tell Rick his photos were roundly viewed as crappy. He used to be a photographer, so that should shame him most satisfactorily.

heehee.

JF, we want the best for you.

 

[jfresh]

Uh Oh...now I'm in trouble with Rick.

Naw...I was mostly kidding.

We're going to redo the website altogether soon, so the pics were just quick "we have glass now!" shots. We're talking with a really good graphic artist about the layout now...so yeah, no worries. I'm sure Rick knows they are crappy already. lol.

 

[tizwas]

Just put in my first order I'm in the uk so with luck and a good postman I won't have to wait to long. My fingers are crossed that this will be what I have been missing, I stopped for 4 days with reg liquid but then crumbled like a house of cards in the wind, and am now smoking again but vaping now and then as I like the taste, I really don't want to smoke, empty ashtrays, brush ash off my clothes, or smell any longer

 

[flowerpots]

Okay, I'm posting this question in several threads, hoping someone will have some suggestions. My goal is to mix Wholecig WTA with a DK-TAB flavor. Does anyone know what vendor or brand is a decent DK-TAB? I'm finding Dekang, and have tried Aroma's. Does anyone else make this flavor?

 

[SouthernBliss]

The flavor apprentice has a DK tobacco base flavor. Not a clue in the world if it is any good though. You might ask in the hangsen thread and see if any of the hangsen tobaccos is like a DK.

 

[DoloresB]

Hi! I've read everything in this thread with great interest.

I'd love to be able to order some of the WTA juice everyone here is talking about, but, being Canadian, am worried that my order might be seized at the border by the CBSA.

Does WholeCig have any Canadian customers? If so, have you had any trouble with shipping orders here?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Hi! I've read everything in this thread with great interest.

I'd love to be able to order some of the WTA juice everyone here is talking about, but, being Canadian, am worried that my order might be seized at the border by the CBSA.

Does WholeCig have any Canadian customers? If so, have you had any trouble with shipping orders here?

I think so, but whatever happens with you and your endeavors, if you keep reading threads before commenting, you're going to amass a ton of friends. hahaha! Hope you find what you're looking for.

 

[SouthernBliss]

It sounds like he read the thread and has not seen anyone say they were Canadian and got an order with out a hitch..... I know I have read the thread and do not recall anyone saying that they had or had not had trouble with a WTA order into Canada.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I know WC has worldwide customers, so I would imagine Canada would be okay. Actually, someone in another thread ordered some WC WTA from Canada, but I never saw the response. I can look into it.

 

[SouthernBliss]

I believe the issue is the Canadian boarder. I know I have read posts in other threads in the past about issues with things getting through properly. Sometimes it is just a god awful delay and sometimes the product is confiscated if I recall correctly. A solution may be something as simple as leaving the company name out of the return address, especially since the packaging is the post office box rather than a brown paper wrapper type packaging.

 

[Mr.Mann]

chipperthorn,

I don't know how that first post I made actually looked, but I was making the point that a lot of posters don't read anything in a thread and pop up with questions (that were likely answered). It probably came off the wrong way, but I was saying: reading through a thread is AWESOME.

I believe the issue is the Canadian boarder. I know I have read posts in other threads in the past about issues with things getting through properly. Sometimes it is just a god awful delay and sometimes the product is confiscated if I recall correctly. A solution may be something as simple as leaving the company name out of the return address, especially since the packaging is the post office box rather than a brown paper wrapper type packaging.

I recently sent something to Canada and I was a bit apprehensive. The person I sent it to said he never had a problem ordering eliquid from the states (and he does it all the time), but I was apprehensive nonetheless. I have made all of three shipments to Canada and the first two got there, this last one is in route. Fingers crossed.

SB, you are right about the packaging though.

 

[DoloresB]

Thanks a bunch, Mr Mann and SouthernBliss, for your input. It's greatly appreciated.

The problem with no return address, SouthernBliss, is that a customer ordering juices and hardware might have their entire order destroyed by the CBSA, which means that this customer is out all of the money invested in the order, not just shipping costs.

I am reading with great interest, as I'm quite new to this, and appreciate all the comments and advice given by the many great people of this forum. This is my go-to place to do the majority of my research into e-cigs.

There are some really good vendors in Canada, Mr Mann, just none of them with WTA liquids. The closest this Canadian girl has come is Gentlemens Reserve in BC, which carries a good selection of Tasty Vapor juices. The macerated juice has gotten me from a carton-a-week addiction down to 1-1/2 large packs a week. I'm presently experimenting with snuff and snus in hopes that this will break completely break me away from analogs.

When I get additional funds, I will try placing an order with WholeCig, and try some of the WTA juices that this vendor offers. I just hope the CBSA will let my shipment through.

 

[Starlyte2]

I know it's got nothing to do with Canada, OK , but I'm in France and order very often from the US (Nic, flavours, now WTA ) and, touch wood, I've only had one order stopped, because it was sent express. It passed the Customs at Paris, but as it was flown way down south, to my tiny local airport, it went through a SECOND control. They didn't know what the heck the flavours were, or if VG was legal here (it wasn't Nic ). Eventually, after 6 weeks, they actually delivered it to my door! I paid 20€ in taxes, but they were quite apologetic for having been so long.
Was a bit strange having the kitchen full of Customs officers, well only 3, but it's very tiny here, 40 people in a village, with a dead end road, so NO passage. We're at 1500 feet, in the mountains, and a road built 50 years ago, which isn't a long time to be connected to the outside world.
Well, you get the picture, but for Customs I guess it's a hit or miss gamble, but mostly you're the winner, IMHO.
I know even if I loose one package, which hasn't yet happened, I'm still gaining by buying in the USA or Asia. Here I pay a fortune for what is available, and the list is quite limited, so if I want something like WTA I have no choice. Good ole Whole Cig, in the States

 

[jfresh]

Hi! I've read everything in this thread with great interest.

I'd love to be able to order some of the WTA juice everyone here is talking about, but, being Canadian, am worried that my order might be seized at the border by the CBSA.

Does WholeCig have any Canadian customers? If so, have you had any trouble with shipping orders here?

Hi, sorry I took so long to answer. I'm moving and still working 10-12 hours a day.

Yes, we have Canadian customers. So far, I haven't heard of any problems.