Without looking for the post. Tom explained clearly how to adjust the 510, a couple pages back I believe. It's very simple actually. I don't remember the exact explanation, my attys fit fine, therefore I didn't pay much attention to the post.
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Yep, i finally dug it out. Apparently, as long as the bottom nut is loose, it shouldn't be a problem. Bumping it up for those with the same question
Note to all new LBC owners:
Many of you will be receiving your LBCs today or tomorrow; the device in and of itself is very straight forward. Please see evolv's website for directions to the board itself. Your device has been programmed to highlight the temp control possibilities of of,the DNA200. Your profiles are:
1. SS 316l
2. SS 316l
3. NiFe30
4. NiFe30
5. Titanium
6. Titanium
7. Nickel
8. Nickel
When a regular kanthal coil is sensed by the dna200 it reverts to normal power mode automatically and is limited at 150watts for non-temp control only (up from the stock 100w)
Be careful! The LBC has enough power to hurt you, please know,this going in. The point of the dna200 as well as the LBC isn't so much designed to be a 200w device because honestly it's designed to be a device that keeps up with you no matter what crazy power need you might have while being integrated into a no compromise bottom fed mod. I can say this enough; just because it will do 200watts doesn't mean it's some type of competition. Vape for your pleasure, vape for your comfort, and most of all a little common sense. If it hurts, stop; no one is impressed with how much power you torture yourself with. There are a lot of people in the bottom feeding community that just don't get the upshot of the dna200 in bottomfed vaping and that is purely their prerogative. Please; I beg you: don't become a statistic and fodder for the low power fanboys and their narrow minded diatribe. How's that for a warning label?
Now that we got through that....
All of the LBCs shipped to date have the 510 connection set at 4.5mm depth. This will cover most any atty that I have sold. I spec attys at 4.5mm- a max of 4.8mm. .3mm is a tiny gap. I would suggest living with it; but if you must adjust.....
Insert your atty and bottom it out on the 510 if the 510 is too deep or on the center pin is too short (check atomizersituation) loosen the 510 nut (with a 7mm 12 point combo wrench with the closed end) and loosen (do not remove)the nut. Once the nut is loose adjust the center pin up or down as need be.
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DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT! Just go to town cranking on the 2mm Allen wrench top of the pin without loosening the nut, you will rip the copper buss connector off the board and at that point the board will have to be replaced. ***+++++
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You have been warned.
Follow that 1 rule and the LBC will last a very long time.
Why? you migh ask... Temp control requires very accurate measurements of the atty resistance in real time. The springs required for an automatic 510 when submerged in juice and then force fed the amounts of current that the LBC is capable of would become a failure point, I don't like failure points... I like rock solid contact and that exactly what the LBC delivers but will require a little work when changing attys of different lengths.
For easy adjustments I would suggest purchasing or running out to the garage and grabbing a 7mm combination wrench 12 point if you have a choice, either 6 pint or 12 point will work but 12 point works better. Your LBC already comes with a m2 Allen wrench, an extra bottle, and a heavy duty usb cord for charging. Your LBCs wre all shipped with a full charge so they are ready to go out of the box. The board is updated to the most recent firmware 2/23/16.
Note to all new LBC owners:
Many of you will be receiving your LBCs today or tomorrow; the device in and of itself is very straight forward. Please see evolv's website for directions to the board itself. Your device has been programmed to highlight the temp control possibilities of of,the DNA200. Your profiles are:
1. SS 316l
2. SS 316l
3. NiFe30
4. NiFe30
5. Titanium
6. Titanium
7. Nickel
8. Nickel
When a regular kanthal coil is sensed by the dna200 it reverts to normal power mode automatically and is limited at 150watts for non-temp control only (up from the stock 100w)
Be careful! The LBC has enough power to hurt you, please know,this going in. The point of the dna200 as well as the LBC isn't so much designed to be a 200w device because honestly it's designed to be a device that keeps up with you no matter what crazy power need you might have while being integrated into a no compromise bottom fed mod. I can say this enough; just because it will do 200watts doesn't mean it's some type of competition. Vape for your pleasure, vape for your comfort, and most of all a little common sense. If it hurts, stop; no one is impressed with how much power you torture yourself with. There are a lot of people in the bottom feeding community that just don't get the upshot of the dna200 in bottomfed vaping and that is purely their prerogative. Please; I beg you: don't become a statistic and fodder for the low power fanboys and their narrow minded diatribe. How's that for a warning label?
Now that we got through that....
All of the LBCs shipped to date have the 510 connection set at 4.5mm depth. This will cover most any atty that I have sold. I spec attys at 4.5mm- a max of 4.8mm. .3mm is a tiny gap. I would suggest living with it; but if you must adjust.....
Insert your atty and bottom it out on the 510 if the 510 is too deep or on the center pin is too short (check atomizersituation) loosen the 510 nut (with a 7mm 12 point combo wrench with the closed end) and loosen (do not remove)the nut. Once the nut is loose adjust the center pin up or down as need be.
********************************************************************************
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT! Just go to town cranking on the 2mm Allen wrench top of the pin without loosening the nut, you will rip the copper buss connector off the board and at that point the board will have to be replaced. ***+++++
*********************************************************************************
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You have been warned.
Follow that 1 rule and the LBC will last a very long time.
Why? you migh ask... Temp control requires very accurate measurements of the atty resistance in real time. The springs required for an automatic 510 when submerged in juice and then force fed the amounts of current that the LBC is capable of would become a failure point, I don't like failure points... I like rock solid contact and that exactly what the LBC delivers but will require a little work when changing attys of different lengths.
For easy adjustments I would suggest purchasing or running out to the garage and grabbing a 7mm combination wrench 12 point if you have a choice, either 6 pint or 12 point will work but 12 point works better. Your LBC already comes with a m2 Allen wrench, an extra bottle, and a heavy duty usb cord for charging. Your LBCs wre all shipped with a full charge so they are ready to go out of the box. The board is updated to the most recent firmware 2/23/16.
Hey Tom,
do you remember my question for the Stumpy Ultem Chuff Cap? Would you order one for me? Otherwise I'll have to jump off the Maker list, Stumpy accessoires are impossible to get here in Germany.
do you remember my question for the Stumpy Ultem Chuff Cap? Would you order one for me? Otherwise I'll have to jump off the Maker list, Stumpy accessoires are impossible to get here in Germany.
Tom would you consider having another round of the M Atty? I think it was a big success.
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They were clones, but good clones. The original M atties were not obtainable unless you knew somebody.
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Authentic and bottom fed for clone BF money. Stumpy meets the Drifter, with better hardware and bottom fed this thing could be a contender... What say you class? Should we do them? I haven't gotten pricing yet but for a sub $50 atty this looks like a crowd pleaser. Who would be in for one with a tentative price of $45?
1. havok333
2. ghola1was
3. kingdal
4. Clark F
5. Hank F Spankman (x2)
View attachment 581045
Authentic and bottom fed for clone BF money. Stumpy meets the Drifter, with better hardware and bottom fed this thing could be a contender... What say you class? Should we do them? I haven't gotten pricing yet but for a sub $50 atty this looks like a crowd pleaser. Who would be in for one with a tentative price of $45?
1. havok333
2. ghola1was
3. kingdal
4. Clark F
5. Hank F Spankman (x2)
The following applies to only the v1 LBC with the solid buss bar 510. The v2 510 needs no adjustment it will accept attys with a depth of 3.9mm to 5.5mm on its own. The v2 can be adjusted to allow shallower than 3.9mm if need be but it will probably leak at that point. Personally I have never seen an atty come in or go out with a depth of less than 4.2mm or greater than 5.05mm.
The 510 is infinitely adjustable but you must loosen the m4 nut on the bottom of the 510 (vital).
To adjust the 510 on the first gen LBC:
1. Loosen the m4 nut on the bottom of the buss bar
2a. If the atty is to high (connects but has a gap) turn the 510 pin with the 2mm Allen wrench (included) in one full turn, try the atty again. Adjust up or down as needed. Once firm contact is made lock down the 4mm nut.
2b. If the atty is not making contact loosen the m4 nut and turn the 510 pin counter clockwise one turn, screw the atty back on. Do you now have contact? If not try another 1/2 turn. Once contact has been made tighten down the m4 nut.
*******Do not adjust the 510 without loosening the m4 nut, you WILL rip,the buss bar off the board and the board will have to be replaced.*******
I can do that no problem, I speak with Harry (owner of EM) almost daily, it's not a problem. I got you. Ordering random parts from most other companies is a no go, but from EM it's no problem. Just make sure you specify that I need to do this. I communicate with a lot of people everyday and things do occasionally get forgotten. Reminders are understood.
Hype clone Interest list. The authentic is out of production and has been since April 2016. This has zero effect on the modder as he sold out long before the first clone emerged. IMO this is a guiltless clone. Standard clone rate applies $45. Who is in?
1.
1.
Hype clone Interest list. The authentic is out of production and has been since April 2016. This has zero effect on the modder as he sold out long before the first clone emerged. IMO this is a guiltless clone. Standard clone rate applies $45. Who is in?
1. Tamer El-Meehy
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Memo to all Catfish officianados: Over the last few weeks business and life necessities have spiked. As most of you are aware I have no helpers, no employees I'm just one guy trying to balance the support of about 500 bottom feeding customers, the needs of an incredibly athletic 14 year old boy, and keeping myself alive long enough to see him graduate. Plain and simple each LBC I produce takes about 3 hours start to finish, each atty takes from 10 minutes to an hour is some extreme cases. Please understand that while I do try to keep up with everything I am human and more accurately just 1 human at that I have other responsibilities that must be attended to. Most of the time I will sacrifice sleep to keep everyone happy but at times even not sleeping for days on end still isn't enough. Please bear with me and please understand that if I do seem a little harsh at times it's simply because I'm exausted and don't have the energy or inclination to remain politically correct.
Btw: This post is not directed towards anyone in particular. I love you all and completely understand you have lives away from bottom feeding, more often than not; I don't.
Btw: This post is not directed towards anyone in particular. I love you all and completely understand you have lives away from bottom feeding, more often than not; I don't.
Last call on the Makers.
Havok and anyone else that wants Maker RSAs lets do a list right here.
Be specific on what you want
1. Chowderhead1972 maker blue/ no logo/ stumpy bore
2. havok333 Maker media blasted/stumpy bore
3. Digital99 Maker blue/no logo/stumpy bore
4. LittleBird Maker blue/no logo/standard 510
5. LittleBird Maker black/no logo/standard 510
6. Slots Maker black (just plain black)/no logo/standard 510
7. Slots Maker black (just plain black)/no logo/standard 510
8. B2L Maker blue/no logo/ standard 510
9. ghola1was Maker red/no logo/standard 510
10. 67Tele Maker Black/Just Black/No logo/No snake-sies/standard 510 (revised finish again)
11. Irish Messing Maker SS/no logo/Stumpy bore
12. Irish Messing Maker SS/no logo/Stumpy bore
13. MFToms59 Maker media blasted/ No Logo/ Standard 510
14. AllPepperS Maker/ Media blasted/no logo/ standard 510
15. Gigdujour Maker SS/no logo/std 510
16. MFToms59 Maker Grey Snakeskin/ no logo/ standard 510
17. ghola1was Maker SS/no logo/stumpy bore
18. Train2 Maker Black (just black, not snake or carbon), no logo, standard 510 bore
19. Paramaniac 413 blue no logo standard bore
20. BigTRAV710 Maker SS/no logo/standard 510
21. Nautilusfan Maker Black plain/no logo/standard 510
I hope it's not too late to get off the list. I will jump to the hype clone, didn't know, they exist.
Havok and anyone else that wants Maker RSAs lets do a list right here.
Be specific on what you want
1. Chowderhead1972 maker blue/ no logo/ stumpy bore
2. havok333 Maker media blasted/stumpy bore
3. Digital99 Maker blue/no logo/stumpy bore
4. LittleBird Maker blue/no logo/standard 510
5. LittleBird Maker black/no logo/standard 510
6. Slots Maker black (just plain black)/no logo/standard 510
7. Slots Maker black (just plain black)/no logo/standard 510
8. B2L Maker blue/no logo/ standard 510
9. ghola1was Maker red/no logo/standard 510
10. 67Tele Maker Black/Just Black/No logo/No snake-sies/standard 510 (revised finish again)
11. Irish Messing Maker SS/no logo/Stumpy bore
12. Irish Messing Maker SS/no logo/Stumpy bore
13. MFToms59 Maker media blasted/ No Logo/ Standard 510
14. AllPepperS Maker/ Media blasted/no logo/ standard 510
15. Gigdujour Maker SS/no logo/std 510
16. MFToms59 Maker Grey Snakeskin/ no logo/ standard 510
17. ghola1was Maker SS/no logo/stumpy bore
18. Train2 Maker Black (just black, not snake or carbon), no logo, standard 510 bore
19. Paramaniac 413 blue no logo standard bore
20. BigTRAV710 Maker SS/no logo/standard 510
21. Nautilusfan Maker Black plain/no logo/standard 510
I hope it's not too late to get off the list. I will jump to the hype clone, didn't know, they exist.
Hype clone Interest list. The authentic is out of production and has been since April 2016. This has zero effect on the modder as he sold out long before the first clone emerged. IMO this is a guiltless clone. Standard clone rate applies $45. Who is in?
1. Tamer El-Meehy
2. tpedwards x2
3. Squonkoholic
1. Tamer El-Meehy
2. tpedwards x2
3. Squonkoholic
I'm only new to your thread, just wanted to say thankyou for your awesome community spirit. Yes you profit from effort. Though i don't imagine you have to, from what i have read thus far you have abundant passion and for that i am sure everyone is grateful. Take as long you like[emoji4]
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View attachment 581045
Authentic and bottom fed for clone BF money. Stumpy meets the Drifter, with better hardware and bottom fed this thing could be a contender... What say you class? Should we do them? I haven't gotten pricing yet but for a sub $50 atty this looks like a crowd pleaser. Who would be in for one with a tentative price of $45?
1. havok333
2. ghola1was
3. kingdal
4. Clark F
5. BigTRAV710
View attachment 581045
Authentic and bottom fed for clone BF money. Stumpy meets the Drifter, with better hardware and bottom fed this thing could be a contender... What say you class? Should we do them? I haven't gotten pricing yet but for a sub $50 atty this looks like a crowd pleaser. Who would be in for one with a tentative price of $45?
1. havok333
2. ghola1was
3. kingdal
4. Clark F
5. BigTRAV710
Thanks man! Stick around... You are surrounded by a lot of people with an extreme passion for squonking. Anyone can get on a list of some super exclusive and more often than not overpriced European Mod or atty but it takes real vision to blend the worlds of top fed and bottom fed and created something great; that has become my goal and it would seem the goals of many others. We are not purists we want what we want. Clouds, flavor, and no restrictions holding us back. That is the spirit behind Catfish atty Mods, and the LBC was forged in that very same spirit.
Btw: Your avatar; Staffy Bull? AmStaff? Either way, you effing Rock!
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