Cloudmaker Whiteout

[Azarias]

I wish I would've read about this earlier, looks very very intriguing. Actually I wish I wouldn't have seen this at all because my wallet/bank account are cringing the more I'm reading about it... Looks like I may have to pick up some OT at work.

So how exactly does swapping out chipsets work, does anyone know? I'd like to know how it's possible that the chips are essentially just plug-n-play and don't require soldering?

Looks like they're using onboard buttons and the USB board is attached to the chippanel, too.
So they literally just have to use one connector for the battery. Not hard at all.

 

[alicewonderland]

i honestly am surprised about how much money is throw out there, with like 0 proof that product exists. I mean you can say all you want that youve been developing a product, show some 3d renderings someone could have made in 1 day, and somehow garner a crazy huge following with people throwings thousands and thousands of dollars at you for a product that is not even made, not seen by the public. Not saying that cloudmakertech is out to scam anyone, but its surprising to me how many people just give their money to mass 'pre-orders'. With all those 'pre-order'ed kick starters that just run away with peoples money - elaborate scams to get people to 'pre-order' stuff that wont ever go into production, you'd figure people would be more careful. I honestly think If I just tack together some pictures I found on the internet, write up some mock-story with half-details, I can get away with internet robbery in the 10's of thousands easy.

I mean has it really come to the point where you need to ask advice from somebody on whether or not you should order something that doesnt exist yet? Hell, just throw the money my way.

 

[BlueridgeDog]

So they literally just have to use one connector for the battery. Not hard at all.

What about the balance charger? That is what I have been asking and all I want is a render of the hookup of the sled so I can see how they are or plan on handling it for the DNA200. The future of vaping is Lipo, so show me how the modular design takes into account the four leads for the charging port and the USB data passthrough for software access to the chip. Yes, i am certain they have it for the Asian chip, but I want to see the modular design for other chips. I am not a basher, I love the concept, but I am VERY curious how they are integrating the new battery technology as well as data communications in a modular design.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

i honestly am surprised about how much money is throw out there, with like 0 proof that product exists. I mean you can say all you want that youve been developing a product, show some 3d renderings someone could have made in 1 day, and somehow garner a crazy huge following with people throwings thousands and thousands of dollars at you for a product that is not even made, not seen by the public. Not saying that cloudmakertech is out to scam anyone, but its surprising to me how many people just give their money to mass 'pre-orders'. With all those 'pre-order'ed kick starters that just run away with peoples money - elaborate scams to get people to 'pre-order' stuff that wont ever go into production, you'd figure people would be more careful. I honestly think If I just tack together some pictures I found on the internet, write up some mock-story with half-details, I can get away with internet robbery in the 10's of thousands easy.

I mean has it really come to the point where you need to ask advice from somebody on whether or not you should order something that doesnt exist yet? Hell, just throw the money my way.

Except the fact that they've shown a fully functioning unit and there's beta units floating around already.

 

[Shigura]

i honestly am surprised about how much money is throw out there, with like 0 proof that product exists. I mean you can say all you want that youve been developing a product, show some 3d renderings someone could have made in 1 day, and somehow garner a crazy huge following with people throwings thousands and thousands of dollars at you for a product that is not even made, not seen by the public. Not saying that cloudmakertech is out to scam anyone, but its surprising to me how many people just give their money to mass 'pre-orders'. With all those 'pre-order'ed kick starters that just run away with peoples money - elaborate scams to get people to 'pre-order' stuff that wont ever go into production, you'd figure people would be more careful. I honestly think If I just tack together some pictures I found on the internet, write up some mock-story with half-details, I can get away with internet robbery in the 10's of thousands easy.

I mean has it really come to the point where you need to ask advice from somebody on whether or not you should order something that doesnt exist yet? Hell, just throw the money my way.

It makes perfect sense to have that line of reasoning. But 0 proof of the product existence? Erm what is this Pegasus and his mod which happened exactly as you stated? No I don't think so although I can't say anything on the DNA variant they had a live showing of the SX version. So yes there it is proof of an existence. To which I might they will be shipping out Beta testers soon to a select group. But I digress the whole idea of a Preorder has existed before it started to become a thing in the vaping world. To which has been pretty much to the same effect. But at the same time this isn't crowd funded and as such if things go sour you can get a refund unlike throwing money out to a crowd funded source. So if you don't agree for it then absolutely do not do it, you'll be none the wiser. Plus last time checked going in on a group buy or co-op here you don't have any guarantee on getting your order thus potentially losing money for nothing. At the very least as I stated before I can always get my money back.

 

[Rizzyking]

Like many I like the concept and am looking forward to this getting out into the wild but I understand the scepticism around the device and hope it isn't long before regular people have them.

 

[tehmidcap]

I'm very interested in the Ares OS, too, sounds like it could be quite revolutionary and is of more interest to me than the DNA200.

I'm waiting to see how the initial batch pans out and such, and unless there is official impending regulation doom coming, I'm in no hurry to buy one... BUT, if everything goes well and they turn out to be everything they are supposed to be, I'm definitely copping an SX version and waiting on the Ares.

 

[Rizzyking]

My interest in this has increased as the likelihood of regulations hitting us in the UK next year looks more likely, under those regulations any sort of regulated mod would be illegal and this could be a way round that as in future I'd only have to buy the chip and maybe a battery sled so should slip under the regs. Hoping the reviews from users are positive on this as it could be a lifesaver for a lot of us.

 

[druckle]

My interest in this has increased as the likelihood of regulations hitting us in the UK next year looks more likely, under those regulations any sort of regulated mod would be illegal and this could be a way round that as in future I'd only have to buy the chip and maybe a battery sled so should slip under the regs. Hoping the reviews from users are positive on this as it could be a lifesaver for a lot of us.

My GOD....why on earth would regulated mods be outlawed? Regulated mods are one of the best/safest ways to avoid tobacco and other health hazards.

Duane

 

[Rizzyking]

Because money from big pharma talks louder then facts in the halls of the EU so stupid regulations it is, gotta protect those poor under threat pharmaceutical companys.

 

[druckle]

Because money from big pharma talks louder then facts in the halls of the EU so stupid regulations it is, gotta protect those poor under threat pharmaceutical companys.

Oh...ok just like the U.S. I guess. We not only have the federals nipping at us but each state is trying to outdo the other in screwing up a life saving alternative to tobacco. We "discourage"??? tobacco as long as we still manage to get the big tobacco taxes.

 

[Madnapali]

Not a huge fan of Joe, but he's running a Whiteout DNA200 giveaway for anyone interested.

 

[nosmoke12]

It makes perfect sense to have that line of reasoning. But 0 proof of the product existence? Erm what is this Pegasus and his mod which happened exactly as you stated? No I don't think so although I can't say anything on the DNA variant they had a live showing of the SX version. So yes there it is proof of an existence. To which I might they will be shipping out Beta testers soon to a select group. But I digress the whole idea of a Preorder has existed before it started to become a thing in the vaping world. To which has been pretty much to the same effect. But at the same time this isn't crowd funded and as such if things go sour you can get a refund unlike throwing money out to a crowd funded source. So if you don't agree for it then absolutely do not do it, you'll be none the wiser. Plus last time checked going in on a group buy or co-op here you don't have any guarantee on getting your order thus potentially losing money for nothing. At the very least as I stated before I can always get my money back.

Just to add on to what you stated; The people behind this also haven't asked for money or funding up until they have actually made a functioning unit. As far as I know they weren't looking for handouts or crowdsourcing, plus also like you said it's a preorder and you don't have to preorder anything to see it actually be produced. I also feel that a lot of their traction and the trust the community has given them comes from how interactive they have been with everyone who has reached out to them. They started out community driven and they have been transparent about plans, current status, issues, delays etc. I think this whole thing started with just the idea of a "future proof" mod and the shape and color and everything else has been chosen by other vapers thru polls they put up and others reaching out via email or reddit, it's not really like kanger, smok, ehpro, tobeco, IPV, or other big manufacturers have had this much community involvement. I can see where alicewonderland got his/hers views and opinions but I thought I would just throw out my 2 cents for the hell of it.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

My interest in this has increased as the likelihood of regulations hitting us in the UK next year looks more likely, under those regulations any sort of regulated mod would be illegal and this could be a way round that as in future I'd only have to buy the chip and maybe a battery sled so should slip under the regs. Hoping the reviews from users are positive on this as it could be a lifesaver for a lot of us.

Which UK regulations are these?? You have a link??

 

[Bakri Karazoun]

have any body got this thing make a review is it true

 

[Shigura]

have any body got this thing make a review is it true

Earliest anyone whom made a Preorder will be around early September. But they have posted recently that they'll be sending out Beta Whiteout SX units soon to a few of the top contributors soon. As well as a Beta unit meant to travel around for regular schmoes to test and document via video then pass it along to the next person by mailing it to the next in line. Honestly though what's to say if one person decides to just keep it....

 

[Lemwise]

My interest in this has increased as the likelihood of regulations hitting us in the UK next year looks more likely, under those regulations any sort of regulated mod would be illegal

Not really. All a vendor has to do is market it using wording not related to vaping. Like for instance a "personal power delivery system." Sell it with a flash light head with a 510 connection and you're good to go. There's no way a metal or plastic enclosure with a simple chip in it can ever be banned.

 

[Rizzyking]

Its deep in the tobacco products directive Steve I can't be bothered going through it all again to find the relevent bit as one reading was enough to have me slitting my wrists. Lemwise if it can be easily identified as an ecig (510 connection) it will get stopped there are already people in mainland Europe where the tpd has come in saying their gear was stopped by customs or postal service so sadly once this hits the UK next year options will diminish quickly. Hence my interest in this far too much stuff is chip controlled these days to test or even inspect everyone.

 

[Lemwise]

I don't understand why that is happening because the TDP doesn't mention anything about mods being banned.

 

[SteveAdams86]

I love the sound of this mod, it sounds like the perfect concept! The black dna 200 with clear panel has my interest! I just hope it can be purchased / shipped to the UK!

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