Cloupor mini caught fire

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Mike 586

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Yes, PBusardo said Clouper reported 40-50 units have set on fire :( Terrible. I would ask for a refund and buy something else.


meh...that's about a 0.05% failure rate on a bargain basement priced APV with a 99.95% chance of being OK. I can easily see how a company doing its due diligence could completely miss a flaw on something with such a minuscule failure rate. Now not catching something on the order of one in ten would be another matter *cough* evolv *cough* entirely.

Now how about Evolv and its 6% to 10% (depending on who you ask) failure rates? Sure they din't melt anything, but if it were a different manufacturing flaw they could have just as easily unleashed countless thousands of ignition devices considering the fact that they never did any kind of meaningful QA to catch the crap they did release.

You gotta put things in perspective.
 
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meh...that's about a 0.05% failure rate on a bargain basement priced APV with a 99.95% chance of being OK. ...

If the Failure was the Unit just Didn't turn on, or if the Ohm Meter went Wiki-Wonky, that would be One Thing.

Fire is kinda a Different Issue.

Because a Dead Screen or an Ohm Meter that reads to High/Low doesn't have the Potential to Burn Down your House while you are Asleep.
 

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So I'm new to the vape world. Been smoking for 15 years! Last week I decided to quit (I've had 2 smokes in 8 days!) and I bought a cloupor mini. Love it! Except, when I got it, it wouldn't charge. I left it plugged in for like 10 hours, and nothing. So I took it back and found out that you can only use a 1amp charger on these things. Which is fine. But that being said, it literally takes 8 hours to get a full charge from a dead battery!
That being said, I was using it yesterday as it was charging (it has pass through, so use while charging is an option, and it had only been charging for 3-4 mins at the time through a wall outlet-they say not to use the computer for charging), and as I'm taking a hit, all of a sudden I look and see smoke coming out of the USB port and my screen said too hot....so I pulled the charger out and took the battery door off only to find a small fire inside my device...had to run it under water to put it out...yjeu exchanged it no problem, but everyone is saying that they have never seen this issue on this device...does anyone have any advice on the best way to handle the batteries and charges so that I can avoid this from happening again and possibly charge faster? Also, any and all advice appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

JUST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME 30 MINUTES A GO.

I charge the cloupor on USB port. It was charged for about 2 hrs.
I passthrough it about one or two puff every 15 minutes of longer.
The last passthrough went a bit weak but I do not notice any other strange , so I just put it back on my desk ( still USB charging )
3-5 secs later smoke come out from the USB port of the Cloupor strong lingering burnt plastic smell easily noticed.
Then I opened the cover and it shows a light of fire right next to the cloupor seal sticker.
The smoke getting more intense, then I drop it down to a box and pour water on it.
Fire light stopped, but I can still hear some crackling voice.
Then I take the battery out ( honestly I was kinda scared it will somehow blew, because of the trickeling sound )
(By the way, that is my 1st time passthrough on VV mode - 3.6v, usually on VW mode -10w, I wonder if it somehow related )

Then , my less than 2 months old Cloupor now have a hole.

Well, I always proud to have a Cloupor for it's overcharge protection and passthrough feature, but now....

Well, eniwei, just my two cents.

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If the Failure was the Unit just Didn't turn on, or if the Ohm Meter went Wiki-Wonky, that would be One Thing.

Fire is kinda a Different Issue.

Because a Dead Screen or an Ohm Meter that reads to High/Low doesn't have the Potential to Burn Down your House while you are Asleep.

I second this...
 
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This is why I think using a passthrough to charge a device is a bad idea. You're much better off with an external charger and extra batteries. Of course, Cloupour could have done a better job with QC, but charging a device through these onboard charge ports is asking for trouble.

The iStick, for instance, must be charged via an onboard charge port. Haven't heard any reports of fire yet, but it would still make me a bit nervous to use it while it's charging.
 

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This is why I think using a passthrough to charge a device is a bad idea. You're much better off with an external charger and extra batteries. Of course, Cloupour could have done a better job with QC, but charging a device through these onboard charge ports is asking for trouble.

The iStick, for instance, must be charged via an onboard charge port. Haven't heard any reports of fire yet, but it would still make me a bit nervous to use it while it's charging.

it cost me a cloupor mini and stinky room just to learn and confirm that :p
 

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Wow. These things kinda get scary especially if one thinks about how many times we leave our mods unattended (at least I do).

Btw, if someone wants to get rid of his burned mod, I'll be happy to pay the shipping costs. I always wanted to try to fit a dna 40 in that case but buying a new one just to gut it... Well, you know what I mean :)

Regards
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Sent from my keyboard through my phone or something like that.
 

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it cost me a cloupor mini and stinky room just to learn and confirm that :p

I would get a 30w istick.
Never heard of any catching on fire like these pieces of junk do.
just my 2 cents.

I vape on istick while charging thru it's usb port, been doing so everyday for past 6 months no issue.....
 

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So does the 20 watt iStick have an internal Lipo battery? I thought it had the same 18650 battery that everyone uses, just built in. The MVP 3.0 I think is the same deal. I actually really want the MVP 3.0 but they are sold out all over the place and it seems like its not as portable as I need it to be. I commute by train for probably over an hour door to door every day, so I need something portable that gives me a good vape. The iStick was ok until the center pin issues started but now I am unsure about getting their 30 watt after I started having trouble with my 20 watt after only 3 months. It still works, but I can't really change tanks around, or I have to fiddle with the center pin, major PITA. I know very little about electronics, other than the basics, ohms law, etc. Otherwise I's consider maybe getting a smaller cylinder shaped mech mod so maybe I could re-build if I wanted etc. But it just seems like for safety and convenience a 30 watt + box device is the way to go. I don't really want to carry a brick around though, what am I going to do in the summer when I have less pockets?
 

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I would get a 30w istick.
Never heard of any catching on fire like these pieces of junk do.
just my 2 cents.

I vape on istick while charging thru it's usb port, been doing so everyday for past 6 months no issue.....

Well I have 2 Cloupor mini's and both beat the 5 junk 20w Isticks that I bought. For some reason most of the bad ones show up outside the USA.
 

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They fixed the center pin issue. They are stainless steel, and are floating pin now, so your issue has been resolved.

I'd get the 30W myself.

So does the 20 watt iStick have an internal Lipo battery? I thought it had the same 18650 battery that everyone uses, just built in. The MVP 3.0 I think is the same deal. I actually really want the MVP 3.0 but they are sold out all over the place and it seems like its not as portable as I need it to be. I commute by train for probably over an hour door to door every day, so I need something portable that gives me a good vape. The iStick was ok until the center pin issues started but now I am unsure about getting their 30 watt after I started having trouble with my 20 watt after only 3 months. It still works, but I can't really change tanks around, or I have to fiddle with the center pin, major PITA. I know very little about electronics, other than the basics, ohms law, etc. Otherwise I's consider maybe getting a smaller cylinder shaped mech mod so maybe I could re-build if I wanted etc. But it just seems like for safety and convenience a 30 watt + box device is the way to go. I don't really want to carry a brick around though, what am I going to do in the summer when I have less pockets?
 

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JUST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME 30 MINUTES A GO.

I charge the cloupor on USB port. It was charged for about 2 hrs.
I passthrough it about one or two puff every 15 minutes of longer.
The last passthrough went a bit weak but I do not notice any other strange , so I just put it back on my desk ( still USB charging )
3-5 secs later smoke come out from the USB port of the Cloupor strong lingering burnt plastic smell easily noticed.
Then I opened the cover and it shows a light of fire right next to the cloupor seal sticker.
The smoke getting more intense, then I drop it down to a box and pour water on it.
Fire light stopped, but I can still hear some crackling voice.
Then I take the battery out ( honestly I was kinda scared it will somehow blew, because of the trickeling sound )
(By the way, that is my 1st time passthrough on VV mode - 3.6v, usually on VW mode -10w, I wonder if it somehow related )

Then , my less than 2 months old Cloupor now have a hole.

Well, I always proud to have a Cloupor for it's overcharge protection and passthrough feature, but now....

Well, eniwei, just my two cents.

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I second this...

Please post your Batch ID from the warranty card. i.e. 00002xx, 00003xx, etc.
From the age, it sounds like you have one of the Batch 0002 defective boards. Contact Cloupor with your information and they will correct the issue.
The later batch releases have addressed the problem.
 
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Well I have 2 Cloupor mini's and both beat the 5 junk 20w Isticks that I bought. For some reason most of the bad ones show up outside the USA.

Well what exactly do you all expect for $30 dollar devices....isticks and clopours.
But i'm saying, i never heard any isticks spontaneously combusting....that's all im saying.

And yes , the original 20w istick had issues, but the 30w and 50 w isticks don't have those issues.
 

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Well what exactly do you all expect for $30 dollar devices....isticks and clopours.
But i'm saying, i never heard any isticks spontaneously combusting....that's all im saying.

And yes , the original 20w istick had issues, but the 30w and 50 w isticks don't have those issues.

And yes, the original Cloupor mini had an issue - which has been resolved without needing a totally new release. :)
 

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Well, thanks to the CPmini, I now expect a lot from a "$30 device" and is as such quite a bit more than what any current version of the istick has to offer, which is to my mind just an overgrown Ego spinner using poorly a managed PWM chip to output Vavg (instead of the more widely accepted Vrms).


LOL, vaping fashionista.
And you couldn't tell the difference between pwm or vrms, unless you had it on oscilliscope.
 

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LOL, vaping fashionista.
And you couldn't tell the difference between pwm or vrms, unless you had it on oscilliscope.

Take time to read before popping back at people.
The reference was V-avg to V-rms:facepalm: and you can definitely tell the difference without an o-scope.
 

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Take time to read before popping back at people.
The reference was V-avg to V-rms:facepalm: and you can definitely tell the difference without an o-scope.

As much as I hate to agree with crxess :)tongue:) the difference is very apparent to myself and a lot of other vapers out there.

I'd also like to say that at 4volts up, the Istick30 and Istick50 have DC-DC outputs that are flat as a pancake - as well as have steel 510 connections which are spring loaded.
 
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