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These problems reported a few times -- mostly in thailand - of the mini melting down .... sorry I don't think I'll be able to link but they are in other threads on this forum -- thoughts? Maybe a good idea to be 5-clicking the mini off when not immediately vaping to be safe till things are sorted out? Or maybe they have really bad batteries in thailand?
 

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I'm not saying it isn't happening, but never underestimate the power of a competitor under pressure. The Cloupor is a real threat to the iStick, the Smok M50/M65 and other low-cost "mini" devices. Just take these reports with a grain of salt, at least until (or if) somebody with a track record posts the same issue.

Just sayin'.
 

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just a quick question guys, since i'm coming from provari v2.5 which is a VV, is there any difference running a VV vs VW in terms of quality of vape? taste? battery life? thanks in advance guys!

The best part about VW is you don't have to worry about changing your voltage every time you put a different tank on it. Once you find the wattage you enjoy vaping at, whatever you screw on there will automatically adjust the voltage to give you that same wattage across the board.
 

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These problems reported a few times -- mostly in thailand - of the mini melting down .... sorry I don't think I'll be able to link but they are in other threads on this forum -- thoughts? Maybe a good idea to be 5-clicking the mini off when not immediately vaping to be safe till things are sorted out? Or maybe they have really bad batteries in thailand?

I would not panic or start a panic over a couple of failed pieces out of tens of thousands already Shipped. The failure sux, but the Percentage is infinitely small. What each of these individuals needs to do is get the devices back to Cloupor for investigation.
It could be a Part defect, an assembly defect or any number of reasons for the failure.

You cannot fix what you do not see as broken
 

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I would not panic or start a panic over a couple of failed pieces out of tens of thousands already Shipped. The failure sux, but the Percentage is infinitely small. What each of these individuals needs to do is get the devices back to Cloupor for investigation.
It could be a Part defect, an assembly defect or any number of reasons for the failure.

You cannot fix what you do not see as broken

Agreed. However, Cloupor isn't helping themselves when they state the following on the Mini's product page Cloupor Mini 30W VV/VW Mode Box Mod for Sale

"About Charging Problems, Please use stable current charging device to charge our Cloupor mini or charge the 18650 battery independently. And you know, the computer and car charger's output current is not stable, so we do not recommended users to plug cloupor mini devices into computers/laptops or car charger. Thank you."

I find that an utterly ridiculous statement...especially considering that I am much more likely to trust that a laptop/PC motherboard adheres to the USB charging specifications than some cheap AC/DC USB wall adapter.
 

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Agreed. However, Cloupor isn't helping themselves when they state the following on the Mini's product page Cloupor Mini 30W VV/VW Mode Box Mod for Sale

"About Charging Problems, Please use stable current charging device to charge our Cloupor mini or charge the 18650 battery independently. And you know, the computer and car charger's output current is not stable, so we do not recommended users to plug cloupor mini devices into computers/laptops or car charger. Thank you."

I find that an utterly ridiculous statement...especially considering that I am much more likely to trust that a laptop/PC motherboard adheres to the USB charging specifications than some cheap AC/DC USB wall adapter.
Yeah I saw that as well and thought HUH, where are they going with that.
 

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I find that an utterly ridiculous statement...especially considering that I am much more likely to trust that a laptop/PC motherboard adheres to the USB charging specifications than some cheap AC/DC USB wall adapter.

A grandchild runs through my house(10 grand kids) and the Lights Flicker
Go down to the power box and tap on it, the lights flicker
Check all the connections - all tight

I'm pretty sure they are giving warning of concern.
I replace about 100 light bulbs some years - grrrrrrrrrrrand kids!:facepalm:

I do agree and am a serious believer, a PC USB is as stable as any Wall Wart will ever be.
 
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Mine nano is scheduled to be delivered Monday.
Hey Jay let me know how you like it. I may get one but waiting for reviews. The occ coils are way over priced. I have seen them at 6 bucks. I will rebuild the coils since it looks real easy , just like the protank 2 that I use now. I want the nano since it should fit the cloupor mini nicely . I know the nano comes with two but i like to have several already rebuilt. I guess 5 extra would be enough.
 

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Yeah I saw that as well and thought HUH, where are they going with that.

I think cloupor is just covering there .... I have had my mini over 2 weeks and used the car and puter no problems. However I did get a nitecore U20 and it's so easy to pop in a charged battery with the mag door. I still feel the mini is the best mini mod yet to date..........
 

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I think cloupor is just covering there .... I have had my mini over 2 weeks and used the car and puter no problems. However I did get a nitecore U20 and it's so easy to pop in a charged battery with the mag door. I still feel the mini is the best mini mod yet to date..........

Actually they are putting a huge red flag on themselves with the USB Consortium. Devices such as this are required to have overcurrent protection and if they haven't complied with the USB specifications their USB license can be revoked. By putting this on their website it's like a tacit admission that they aren't following USB specs.
 

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Actually they are putting a huge red flag on themselves with the USB Consortium. Devices such as this are required to have overcurrent protection and if they haven't complied with the USB specifications their USB license can be revoked. By putting this on their website it's like a tacit admission that they aren't following USB specs.

Pure speculation. You have no Idea what the design does or does not incorporate or if it is a functional design or manufacturing error. May even be a random Assembly problem. We do NOT know - Yet.

I agree more with the"liability" thought. I believe they think it will cover them on future mishaps.

HD

Doubt it. Not much liability responsibility in China. You know, the country that clones everything.
 

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Pure speculation. You have no Idea what the design does or does not incorporate or if it is a functional design or manufacturing error. May even be a random Assembly problem. We do NOT know - Yet.

The USB specs are certainly not speculation. I doubt a lawyer familiar with that license approved them releasing that statement. Think about it, if there is in fact an issue (and I'm not convinced there is), is it more likely that laptops/motherboards are not in compliance or this device? Even if this ends up being a supplier issue (and that is assuming there is really a problem at all), I think Cloupor would have been better off not saying a word until all facts are known. Personally I still highly recommend this device and think any issues are either user error or very limited product failures. It may not even be the USB board's failure at all. So in that sense you are correct...it is all speculation at this point. I'm just saying that Cloupor should be more careful about what it says until they do really know what is going on (if anything).
 
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The USB specs are certainly not speculation. I doubt a lawyer familiar with that license approved them releasing that statement. Think about it, if there is in fact an issue (and I'm not convinced there is), is it more likely that laptops/motherboards are not in compliance or this device? Even if this ends up being a supplier issue (and that is assuming there is really a problem at all), I think Cloupor would have been better off not saying a word until all facts are known.

Wow, you live a sheltered life. I never said the SPECS were speculation.
The United States and its way of doing things is not the rest of the world nor the end all be all. We really need people to wake up and take notice.:facepalm:
You do realize Cloupor is not in the US nor directly subject to its laws, right? The Retailers are the ones that Government and leaching lawyers will go after.

Many devices use USB +/- only with NO DATA line - This would violate USB Spec....... IF the device was being sold and used as a USB Data transfer device. May not apply if being used as a Miniature Charging port.

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I have emailed Cloupor with concerns.

Beats sitting around whining on a forum.
 
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Wow, you live a sheltered life. I never said the SPECS were speculation.
The United States and its way of doing things is not the rest of the world nor the end all be all. We really need people to wake up and take notice.:facepalm:
You do realize Cloupor is not in the US nor directly subject to its laws, right? The Retailers are the ones that Government and leaching lawyers will go after.

Many devices use USB +/- only with NO DATA line - This would violate USB Spec....... IF the device was being sold and used as a USB Data transfer device. May not apply if being used as a Miniature Charging port.

Respectfully you have no idea what life I've lived. Cloupor certainly is directly subject to US law and the jurisdiction of our courts since they sell product in this country via distribution...U.S. courts would apply the long-arm statute of the forum state and federal due process under the 14th Amendment to establish whether Cloupor has systematic and continuous "minimum contacts" under the principles set forth in the Supreme Court decision in World-Wide Volkswagen Corp v. Woodson. Selling directly to US distributors is sufficient to establish those required "minimum contacts". Furthermore, if Cloupor has signed the USB Adopters Agreement, they have contractually agreed to be bound to the laws of New York and the jurisdiction of its courts since such consortium type agreements are rarely negotiable.
 

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Respectfully you have no idea what life I've lived. Cloupor certainly is directly subject to US law and the jurisdiction of our courts since they sell product in this country via distribution...U.S. courts would apply the long-arm statute of the forum state and federal due process under the 14th Amendment to establish whether Cloupor has systematic and continuous "minimum contacts" under the principles set forth in the Supreme Court decision in World-Wide Volkswagen Corp v. Woodson. Selling directly to US distributors is sufficient to establish those required "minimum contacts". Furthermore, if Cloupor has signed the USB Adopters Agreement, they have contractually agreed to be bound to the laws of New York and the jurisdiction of its courts since such consortium type agreements are rarely negotiable.

See, now we are getting somewhere. You know LAW and how it can be used to anyone advantage as long as the lawyer is good enough.
Still, you have NO idea whether there is any defect in design of the USB.
You Have No idea whether the USB is even built by or supplied to Cloupor.
You have no idea who has done what for certifications.
You have no Idea whether the device is 1.1 or 1.2 compliant design.

I on the other hand can see plainly, Cloupor sells a hand full of products without Contracting Venders and is doubtfully able to build a USB device or a VV/VW Board. Like most China Ecig market companies they likely buy from several suppliers and Assemble a product or simply Rep a finished product.:facepalm:

Life's to short - live a little.:toast:

You simply wish to fuss over a Vender statement which is nothing less(a statement) which has nothing to do with the FEW Cloupor mini melt downs.
What I have read clearly states:
NOT in USE
NOT Being Charged
What I have seen:
Boards melt down center of main board
 
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Hey Jay let me know how you like it. I may get one but waiting for reviews. The occ coils are way over priced. I have seen them at 6 bucks. I will rebuild the coils since it looks real easy , just like the protank 2 that I use now. I want the nano since it should fit the cloupor mini nicely . I know the nano comes with two but i like to have several already rebuilt. I guess 5 extra would be enough.
That's my plan too. Going to buy an extra 5 after I try out the stock coils and than figure out if I need to buy some 26 gauge wire or go with my 28.
Pretty sure I'll keep most my builds closer to the 1.2 stock coil.
Also still waiting on receiving my koh gen do cotton from Nordstrom.
 
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