Co-Op Interest for L-Rider Lavatubes for $30 each unit!!!

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Shekinahsgroom

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:2cool: good work Shrek

Oh you too, huh?

(Shrek?)

Do I need to change my avatar now?

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Just an update....

I've asked L-Rider for references, but they've yet to respond.

Chinese new year starts on the 23rd, so there could be a delay period as their holidays are significantly longer than ours.

I've also spoken with several CEO's with various vendors, but none are willing to offer specifics pertaining to their satisfaction or dissatisfaction in the areas of question. I just receive a general response....no details. No real help there so far.

I've also not received any additional supplier responses for spreadsheets, so it may come down to just 2 choices....L-Rider or Uniq. So we may have to take a vote when this thread is complete, as to which one to go with?

But in either case, and I cannot reiterate this fact enough....THERE'S A RISK no matter which way you decide.

But I'll do my best to give everyone the most facts that I'm able to obtain before you make your decisions. :)
 

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The maH rating of your battery just tells you how much power the cell can hold.

So the higher the rating, the longer the battery will last per charge.

IMR batteries don't last nearly as long as a high quality li-ion battery, but the IMR has a safer chemistry.

But to be quite honest, there's no real reason to even want to use an IMR battery in the LT.

An AW IMR 18650 is rated at a 10 amp drain (I think?), but the LT maxes out at 2.63 amps.

A standard Li-ion 18650, even a Chinese low quality battery, will give you at LEAST 3 amps drain which is more than what the LT requires to reach its cut-off point.

I think the main reason people try to push the IMR's if for safety purposes. But no Lithium type battery is fool proof and will go critical if it's shorted out or mishandled.

High quality cells will give you very accurate amp hour measurements, like the Tenergy 18650 2600 maH battery.

But I'm not a battery expert, either. So somebody please correct me if I'm wrong? :)


And just for the record, Super-T Manufacturing conducted a test of these "controversial" batteries against the authentic AW IMR 18650...here's the results in a graph:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...at-prices-super-selection-41.html#post4835195

The AW shows a 2.5 amp discharge rate (very near the LT's maximum) and the counterfeit shows a 2.5 amp discharge rate.....but lasted for considerably longer.

Read the thread for more details.

The reason IMR is recommended with a boost circuit is it converts battery current to voltage to a higher voltage than 1 3.7v battery is rated for. The current pull from the battery can be to much for a protected battery depending on the voltage setting and ohm carto/atty and can also be a big increase over what the regulators current limit is which could trip a protected batteries circuitry.

You can get more detailed info on it on the Provape, Provari faqs page which also uses a boost regulator.
 

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Thanks a lot for all your work here!
I said earlier I'd take an 18650 model. At these prices I'm down for either 2 shorts with extensions or one short and one full size. Also, what's the word on battery brand and chemistry? If they are real aw imr, I'm in for 1/2 dozen of 35s and 4 65s
 

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The reason IMR is recommended with a boost circuit is it converts battery current to voltage to a higher voltage than 1 3.7v battery is rated for. The current pull from the battery can be to much for a protected battery depending on the voltage setting and ohm carto/atty and can also be a big increase over what the regulators current limit is which could trip a protected batteries circuitry.

You can get more detailed info on it on the Provape, Provari faqs page which also uses a boost regulator.

You're talking about the Provari regulator, correct? This is the LT thread, man....(Just sayin')

Also, let's be clear that BOTH batteries are 3.7V rated, just so you're not confusing anyone by promoting an IMR.

I also made a similar point regarding the use a protected batteries on top of a regulator's protection circuit giving lower performance. But if you're NOT using a garbage battery, and its a high quality unprotected battery, you're NOT going to run into the issues you're describing. (High quality protected may also be just as reliable, depends on the brand.)

The LT's regulator isn't powerful enough to warrant using an IMR anyways, as it's maximum is 2.63 amps.

I could see using an IMR if you wanted to vape at 6 volts pulling 10 amps.....but that's not the case using an LT.

And before anyone pops in says, "Oh my unprotected, that's bad." It's only 'bad' if there's no protection AT ALL! The LT has it's own protection circuit, so you CAN use unprotected batteries without worry. However, the more protection, the safer you'll be....just don't expect great performance out of your devise.

And if the LT's regulator were to fail in some way and short out your battery, whether it's an IMR, a protected li-ion or unprotected li-ion cell...guess what? It's going to go critical and WILL explode. The protection circuit is in place so not to draw out too much power too fast.....or to put too much in too fast. But in the case of an electrical failure, it won't matter what is in there, it will fail.
 
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