I don't believe Kanthal was chosen for any other reason than it is a widely available resistance wire. I don't think there was much science behind the decision.
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I don't believe Kanthal was chosen for any other reason than it is a widely available resistance wire. I don't think there was much science behind the decision.
Say What?
So someone tries something "Years Ago", and it Doesn't work with what they used, so anything Now Isn't going to Work that kinda looks like it?
And I'm Not Sure how Anyone can make a Blanket Statement like... "We are already using the safest combination of parts, ..." seeing that I don't think there is Even Agreement as to What Level of Safety we have?
Jeeze, why don't we let a Few People try this tank and get a Better Understanding on what the Heating Element is Actually made of before Final Judgment is Passed.
High Pricing, limited availability, No spare Glass or Heater included.
*User Caution critical.
No future availability known per Vendor
To rich for my blood.............. Though I'd buy it in a heartbeat if Closer to $50 and Spares available. One handed(functioning) Coil building is a Royal Pain.
Just spent an hour breaking down and cleaning 2 tanks, that would normally take 10-15 minutes. Still have to build coils and reassemble.
maybe tomorrow
*User Caution critical.
No future availability known per Vendor
To rich for my blood.............. Though I'd buy it in a heartbeat if Closer to $50 and Spares available. One handed(functioning) Coil building is a Royal Pain.
Just spent an hour breaking down and cleaning 2 tanks, that would normally take 10-15 minutes. Still have to build coils and reassemble.
maybe tomorrow
Whatever it is made out of you can bank on you not being able to simply rebuild a new one in your living room. That right there should turn you off, if all these replaceable coils become hard to obtain what's the point of this tank?
That and it's inert in eliquid, self insulates and has useful resistance per length. Remember when NiCr was the standard wire in attys, remember why the DIY community switched to Kanthal A1? I do. Kanthal A1 forms a layer of Al2O3 on it's surface when heated.
Say What?
So someone tries something "Years Ago", and it Doesn't work with what they used, so anything Now Isn't going to Work that kinda looks like it?
And I'm Not Sure how Anyone can make a Blanket Statement like... "We are already using the safest combination of parts, ..." seeing that I don't think there is Even Agreement as to What Level of Safety we have?
Jeeze, why don't we let a Few People try this Tank and get a Better Understanding on what the Heating Element is Actually made of before Final Judgment is Passed.
I don't have to wait to know how this is going to end. This is basic material science and thermodynamics, there are only so many materials you can make this kind of resistor out of. They all suffer from stress fractures if cooled too quickly. Eliquid is a really good heat sink.
Y'all can do whatever you want, judge anything you want any way you want based on your personal preferences.
I would watch the video that Sparkky posted and listen closely to everything the guy in the video has to say with a critical ear.
We there it is. No need for Anyone to buy this Tank. All the Heating Elements are going to Crack.
Glad we got that Cleared Up.
They claim a one year warranty on their "CVU", I highly doubt it will be that durable but let's play along... What happens in a year when you go to use that warranty and the company no longer exists or is allowed to operate due to pending regulation?
Do you just go to the nearest Best Buy and buy a new CVU? That's the only real reason I'm against propritary anything, good ol' wire and cotton will be around forever.
Do you just go to the nearest Best Buy and buy a new CVU? That's the only real reason I'm against propritary anything, good ol' wire and cotton will be around forever.
What was it that Herbert Spencer said about "contempt prior to investigation..."? I think ignorance was mentioned.....
I think it looks interesting and I am looking forward to seeing/hearing more about it. There are a lot of people who do not want to or honestly can not build their own coils, this might be a great alternative someday for that segment of the vaping population.
All of the wire is inert in eliquid. All of the different wires form oxidation layers. SS, Ti, Ni, etc..
Kanthal is bad because of its extremely low TCR. It's outdated.
Clones in 5.......4.........3.........2
I am not at all against the Design concept. Yes some field testing is in order. Some Price consideration is in order, Production(availability) is in order and Backup Parts availability is in order. However if the Early kinks are worked out, or more mainstream picks up on and runs with the concept, we may have a winner.
Pssssst.......whatever works to get you off cigs............, still works
I am not at all against the Design concept. Yes some field testing is in order. Some Price consideration is in order, Production(availability) is in order and Backup Parts availability is in order. However if the Early kinks are worked out, or more mainstream picks up on and runs with the concept, we may have a winner.
...and he/she just put a million vapers on edge...
Pssssst.......whatever works to get you off cigs............, still works
Respectfully beg to differ BE. I was just beginning to introduce the principles of winding with strain to perfect contact coils about the time you joined ECF. Had been studying the phenomenon of vaping and progress of the industry for years prior as an investor. It was well explained here on ECF and elsewhere that Kanthal builds an alumina (ceramic) layer isolating underlying metallic strata from the liquid media. Stabilization of the circuit and user friendly winding approaches were the goals of the tensioned microcoil project and campaign to enlist more rebuilders. Couple these with a ceramic alumina wick media like Nextel and you have the best of all worlds in efficiency, thermal conversion and combustion deterrence.
However, there's an ... for every seat at this table. And certainly for some, perhaps many, being able to walk away from dicey pricey consumables or the average rewind vape may be just the ticket. Certainly for those that travel, have busy personal lives or just need the layoff or simplicity. It may be well worth it if not as rewarding in my opinion (likely). A welcome alternative for some.
What's curious to me is the timing of this introduction. Here we all are almost certain that the industry as we know it is about to get flushed. What somehow gives this product a pass? Curious as I'd be quite the skeptic in my own risk assessment without offset somewhere given the circumstances.
A few thoughts.
Good luck.
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Good luck all.
Good luck all.
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Can't wait to hear all of the disappointment that will flood the forums when these start getting in the hands of people...
That's the attitude that put men on the moon! Awesome
No that's the kind of attitude that kept people from dying while trying to make it to the moon on something that was slapped together
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