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Everyone uses Kanthal and I have never seen someone using stainless steel wire. I think it changes the principles around and you would need to really know wire or have someone that does to answer that question.


Not sure if it is a question of safe or not but factors on the purity of the stainless steel, the melting temp and that kinda thing would come into play...........or not at all. I am not a metallurgist.
 

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I only use Kanthal from Temco. Not interested in any other wire.. silver? Dont know or care to try it. sorry.

Silver wire is NOT resistance wire; in fact, it's more conductive than copper. I don't know why, but this is starting to pop up more frequently here, where is this coming from????
 

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stainless steel mesh is used as a wicking materiel to carry the eliquid to the resistance wire coil - this is the first I have heard of anyone using stainless wire for a coil and I am unsure why you want to use SS wire - you do want to confirm it is 100% stainless steel and is not galvanized steel. Normal wire to use is either Kanthal or Nichrome because its properties are known -

Does the SS wire glow red when fired when dry?

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The stainless steel mesh is for the wick not for the coil. The atomizer that use silver wire are for builds would require resistance wire(normally kanthal) and non resistance wire(nichrome nr and silver nr are popular) in a combination. However not all silver's are non-resistance wire and some silver when heated can create a copper oxide. I personally never liked anything built with silver because a mis-labeled wire can be very bad as I figured inhaling copper oxide can't be good.
 

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Some attys use stainless steel mesh, so I tried the 34ga wire and it worked, started with 7 loops and got a resistance of 1.72. did not want to proceed until l find out if its OK to use.

SS mesh (oxided) is used for WICKING, not for the heating element. Kanthal A-1 and NiChrome are the suitable choices for coil making. Kanthal and Nichrome are designed for this application, so they should be used for this application. 34ga (regardless of the ingredient) is VERY thin as well, and is easily damaged. No one needs a coil breaking mid firing.
 

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Nichrome and Kanthal wire are also metal. Stainless is a little more stronger, but workable. Got the stainless steel wire at AC more crafts.

:facepalm:AC More is a CRAFT store. That is craft wire (like, for making jewelry or art, or whatever). PLEASE do NOT use it for coils. It is not designed for that. It is not made out of the type of material designed to run ELECTRICITY through it. Please, stop....This is coming from a place of love (as a mother) to prevent you from hurting yourself.
 

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SS mesh (oxided) is used for WICKING, not for the heating element. Kanthal A-1 and NiChrome are the suitable choices for coil making. Kanthal and Nichrome are designed for this application, so they should be used for this application. 34ga (regardless of the ingredient) is VERY thin as well, and is easily damaged. No one needs a coil breaking mid firing.

Well, if stainless will heat up enough, and stainless is used for wicking (which can get very hot) I don't see why stainless couldn't be used for coils. Of course, there are many different types of stainless, with different properties (for example, most are non-magnetic, but not all!) and with different ingredients....... It's certainly an interesting question. Also, even though stainless wire would be thinner, I also believe it's considerably stronger, and might actually last longer than a nichrome or kanthal coil.

Interesting topic!
 

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I would assume that you would need to know the exact application for the original intended use of your ss wire and if it were suitable to use. Just because you can buy ss mesh and use it as a wick wouldn't necessarily mean that you could use it for coil wire.

As an example, you can use different types of oil to deep fry food but certain ones have different temperatures that they degrade at so using one will give you great results while others will smoke endlessly and will ruin what you are trying to make.
 

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As an example, you can use different types of oil to deep fry food but certain ones have different temperatures that they degrade at so using one will give you great results while others will smoke endlessly and will ruin what you are trying to make.

Yep! 10W40 isn't good for french fries. Maybe I should try 5W30? ;-)
 

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Well, if stainless will heat up enough, and stainless is used for wicking (which can get very hot) I don't see why stainless couldn't be used for coils. Of course, there are many different types of stainless, with different properties (for example, most are non-magnetic, but not all!) and with different ingredients....... It's certainly an interesting question. Also, even though stainless wire would be thinner, I also believe it's considerably stronger, and might actually last longer than a nichrome or kanthal coil.

Interesting topic!

Sigh, SS wire for making jewelry is NOT a suitable choice for coils. Period. Proper wire choices are dirt cheap (100ft of kanthal for like $7-$10). Why would we want to run a twisted science experiment on ourselves to find out if it will work? I could probably figure out how to use my earrings to make a heating element and vape off that. But I'm not going to stick it in my atty it, because it's STUPIDLY DANGEROUS!
 
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