coil wraping??

[shad0w13]

im still kind of new to wrapping coils but I either get .4 ohms or if I try a micro coil its about 1.1 but sucks.

can you coil wrapping experts give me some pointers im a little bit of a cloud chaser ill admit it but I don't want to lose flavor of huge clouds.

so a nice balance between would be great.

im using a mech mod kst I belive, and a trident rda if it matters

 

[The Vagabond]

wire has a set resistance per foot and can be found on the manufactures site. divide by 12 to get resistance per inch. decide your target resistance, take a length of the wire the appropriate size with some extra length so you can work with it. mark with a sharpie the exact length needed and wrap your coil so that the marks would line up with the connector posts once installed. you will end up with the right resistance no mater how well you wound your coil. note it will have the same resistance even if uncoiled (straight)

 

[shad0w13]

all I know about my wire it its 32 gauge

 

[The Vagabond]

Kanthal a-1 32 AWG- 1.091 Ohms/in, 0.0080 Diameter (in.)

this should be a good bet

 

[The Vagabond]

so if your target is 1 ohm on a single coil, you will need 1 inch of 32 gage

duel coils will require 4 as much wire (total)
so for 2 coils with a desired target of 1 ohm you will need two lengths of 2 inches each

quad coils will require 8 times as much (total)
so for 4 coils with a desired target of 1 ohm you will need 4 lengths of 4 inches each

 

[shad0w13]

duel coils will require twice as much wire (total) quad coils will require 4 times as much

im using duel coils at about 1.1 ohms currently if that helps with anything

 

[happydave]

if you have an ohm meter you can check the coil before totally installing it. just leave the coil legs or leads (whatever you want to call them) long. put the leads though the posts on your trident rda and check the ohms. if its higher than your target then remove the coil and wick and unwrap one coil. if your reading is lower than your target add another coil. when you get it just right make sure the posts are tight then cut off the excess leads.

 

[shad0w13]

if you have an ohm meter you can check the coil before totally installing it. just leave the coil legs or leads (whatever you want to call them) put the leads though the posts on your trident rda and check the ohms. if its higher than your target then remove the coil and wick and unwrap one coil. if your reading is lower than your target add another coil. when you get it just right make sure the posts are tight then cut off the excess leads.

I check my ohms with my vamo and I think I have it good but then it either lacks vapor or taste. I liked it at .4 but that's pretty low for the battery I have atm, im waiting on better ones to come in

 

[happydave]

if your going for duel coils in a parallel circuit (most common) then the total circuit resistance (ohms) will be half of the total resistance of one coil. so if you have 2 coils that are 1.1 ohm each hooked up in parallel then total circuit resistance will be .55 ohms.

duel coils in a series circuit, you just add the resistance of each coil to give you the total circuit resistance
so two 1.1 ohm coils hooked up in series will give you 2.2 ohms for total circuit resistance.

 

[shad0w13]

well it reads 1.1 on the vamo so I guess its 2 .55s

 

[mackman]

im still kind of new to wrapping coils but I either get .4 ohms or if I try a micro coil its about 1.1 but sucks.

can you coil wrapping experts give me some pointers im a little bit of a cloud chaser ill admit it but I don't want to lose flavor of huge clouds.

so a nice balance between would be great.

im using a mech mod kst I belive, and a trident rda if it matters

Get this app if you have an Android phone Vaper's Toolbox everything for building coils. and check this out for micro coil building:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XjH8lFurPk&feature=youtu.be

 

[happydave]

I check my ohms with my vamo and I think I have it good but then it either lacks vapor or taste. I liked it at .4 but that's pretty low for the battery I have atm, im waiting on better ones to come in

sub ohm coils are risky if your not using gear designed to handle that much current draw.

have you tried twisted kanthal? i love it. you get more surface area in contact with the wick and a lower resistance. i make 1.3 ohm .32 gauge twisted kanthal coils that perform better than .8 ohm .28 gauge solid coils. after you twist the kanthal you gotta torch it with a butane lighter to take the spring tension out of it, when you torch it you want it to glow and run the torch down the length of the wire 2 times any more than that and your are going to increase the resistance of the twisted kanthal.

 

[happydave]

well is it series or parallel?

 

[happydave]

well it reads 1.1 on the vamo so I guess its 2 .55s

is it series or parallel?

if the vamo is reading 1.1
and you have a parallel circuit then you have two 2.2 ohm coils
and if its a series circuit you have two .55 ohm coils

please keep mind that these numbers are based on the idea that the coils are perfectly identical .. you might have one coil that's a tiny bit higher than the other one.

 

[Ryedan]

On a Trident you would do well with micro coils. Here's a video from super_x_drifter on how to set them up. Note the maximum ID for these coils is 1/16". I use cotton in mine and it's great, cheap and easy to do, just don't stuff too much in there or the wick will choke and you'll get burnt hits. Also, leave the wick tails a bit longer than he does because you're not using a Reo bottom feeder like he is.

32 gauge Kanthal is a little thin for this. I suspect it will be a little tricky to keep the coil shape while working with it. I use 28 gauge and that's a lot stiffer. You also will have to keep the number of wraps down a bit to not get too high in resistance. I suggest you try 8 wraps and see how that ohms out.

One more thing. You need to be careful not to go too low in resistance on your mech mod. The lower you go the more power you will draw from the battery. Draw too much and it will start heating up. If this happens it's becoming dangerous. Get it too hot and it will vent and become really bad in short order.

There is a Ohm's law calculator here. Stick in the battery volts and the coil ohms and hit calculate. It will tell you the amps. You can use 4 volts for the calcs. For battery amp limits check out post #32 here. Amp limits for some of the more popular batts are listed. If your batt is not listed, Google it. The info is out there. If you can't find it ask here. You need to also be using IMR lithium ion batts.

Vape safe

 

[shad0w13]

is it series or parallel?

if the vamo is reading 1.1
and you have a parallel circuit then you have two 2.2 ohm coils
and if its a series circuit you have two .55 ohm coils

please keep mind that these numbers are based on the idea that the coils are perfectly identical .. you might have one coil that's a tiny bit higher than the other one.

sorry I had to step away for a bit it is parallel

 

[shad0w13]

On a Trident you would do well with micro coils. Here's a video from super_x_drifter on how to set them up. Note the maximum ID for these coils is 1/16". I use cotton in mine and it's great, cheap and easy to do, just don't stuff too much in there or the wick will choke and you'll get burnt hits. Also, leave the wick tails a bit longer than he does because you're not using a Reo bottom feeder like he is.

32 gauge Kanthal is a little thin for this. I suspect it will be a little tricky to keep the coil shape while working with it. I use 28 gauge and that's a lot stiffer. You also will have to keep the number of wraps down a bit to not get too high in resistance. I suggest you try 8 wraps and see how that ohms out.

One more thing. You need to be careful not to go too low in resistance on your mech mod. The lower you go the more power you will draw from the battery. Draw too much and it will start heating up. If this happens it's becoming dangerous. Get it too hot and it will vent and become really bad in short order.

There is a Ohm's law calculator here. Stick in the battery volts and the coil ohms and hit calculate. It will tell you the amps. You can use 4 volts for the calcs. For battery amp limits check out post #32 here. Amp limits for some of the more popular batts are listed. If your batt is not listed, Google it. The info is out there. If you can't find it ask here. You need to also be using IMR lithium ion batts.

Vape safe

that's for the info I just ran out of my 28g ill have to wait till next Friday to go pick some more up and ill have to try to find some cotton as well

 

[Ryedan]

well it reads 1.1 on the vamo so I guess its 2 .55s

It's 2, 2.2 ohm coils.

 

[Ryedan]

that's for the info I just ran out of my 28g ill have to wait till next Friday to go pick some more up and ill have to try to find some cotton as well

I've used cotton from Q-tips and from cotton balls. Q-tips are all good. With cotton balls make sure they don't have any additives in them. Some people boil them, some don't.

 

[shad0w13]

It's 2, 2.2 ohm coils.

this may be why im lacking flavor th and vapor