Comparing the Darwin to the Provari - first impressions

[ProsperityGal]

This is the second time that I am trying to post this. The first time it kept ‘auto saving’ then when I submitted it I was no longer logged in. What is the scoop with that? Just a second before I clicked the submit button I saw it auto save. WHAT HAPPENED!!!!!!!!! Not cool.

OK. Ohmmmmmm…… I’ll take a deep breath and just write this in Word then cut and paste
I’ve had the Darwin for a month.
I’ve had the Provari since yesterday.

Darwin
Body – Solid and strong. The window is big enough to see all of the information all at once.
Pivoting arm – has already become floppy. Not as tight as it use to be.
Battery – Excellent. After 2 days of use - more than half a charge left.
Wheel – very frustrating. It takes a while to get exactly the setting that you want. It goes slightly over or under and you have to be patient and keep trying.
Button – very finicky. In order to get it to fire, I have to press it in a certain way on the top right corner. Sometimes I have to look to see if the window lights up to make sure that it is working. I am not happy about the workings of the button at all.
Attachments – I ordered a 510-510 adapter with this unit from Nhaler. Sporadic results. Tested the adapter on an Ego and Provari with no problems. Will not always work on the Darwin. Always works on the other units.
Provari
Body – Solid and strong. Smaller window than on the Darwin but you can see the information that you want by pressing the button to get the particular menu item.
Battery – charged the batteries yesterday. Still going strong, but shows 3.6 volts. After full charge it showed 4.0 volts. Received 2 batteries with the kit and ordered a third. Voltage showing was with a cartomizer of 2.9 Ohms with the Provari set at 3.7 volts.
Button – in my opinion, this button is far better than the one on the Darwin. I do not have to be careful and press it a certain way in order to get it to fire. Works every time.
Attachments – everything works. No problems.

Now, granted, the Darwin is a month old and the Provari is brand new. Keep this in mind. However, I am more impressed by the Provari at this time.

I am thinking of sending the Darwin in for them to check it out now that I have the Provari.

The Darwin gives a slightly hotter vape than the Provari when set at the same voltage.

My recommendation – get the Provari.

 

[XKingXGregX]

Provari got my vote too I owned both the darwin will malfunction or stop charging and youll have to send it in for warrenty and its craftmanship is shotty plus its like 100 dollars more expensive the provari is much sleeker and seems much better in quality and design. Vapor production is great for either unit but after having 4 or 5 darwins sent in for repair every 3 month I wouldnt recommend the darwin to anyone 250 bucks is a ripoff. I think with two batteries a provari is like 180 but more for extender but atleast u can upgrade later on if u decide to provari offers like a 3000mah battery now should last almost 3 days


Its hard to find true reviews on the darwin on the nhaler forum drew will edit posts he finds negative so only good things will be seen about the quality of the darwin not necessarily true for someone lookingfor a new pv I wish id gone the provari route from the start. Buzz pro is great too for a lower price of either

 

[ProsperityGal]

I was very sad to put in this review for the Darwin seeing that I did tons of research and thought that I made the right decision.

It's too bad, but on the other hand - I HAVE A PROVARI!.

I'll just send the Darwin in and have it for a second unit and the Ego as a third.

Thanks for your observations!

 

[kabonk]

thanks for the comparison I own a provari and was think about buying a darwin also maybe I'll think about it a little while longer

 

[Str8V8ping]

Thats interesting . I always thought the darwin blew away the provari in performance from reading up on both . Also the darwin is power regulated which is a league of its own . I know you can run a lot more watts with a darwin since the provari has a 12w limit i think . I dont have either but from reading alone on the forum i would go with the darwin as i like vaping at higher wattages .Its nice to ajust wattage instead of voltage too . The provari does look leagues better than the darwin . Im not really a fan of how the darwin looks . After reading the above posts though maybe i would take a provari over the darwin .

 

[XKingXGregX]

no, the provari is power regularated also, the darwin will kick up the voltage depending on how many ohms the atomizer is worth, the provari will limit the amount giving u an error message if the atomizer is a lower resistance so you need to turn down the voltage alittle so it works properly so that you dont blow the atomizer, the whole adjustable wattage thing that the darwin advertises is bs, you have to understand that all these vv units will adjust with voltage/amps/wattage that will go hand and hand with any electricial power....the buzz pro will do the same regulating the only difference is that the darwin/provari can give readings on what th setting is at, but that doesnt matter anyway its all about finding the sweet spot and you might as well be looking for the sweet spot with your eyes closed anyway theres not much learning curve here, usually id be cranking the voltage up al the way anyway so i could just hand myself a 6 volt mod and call it a day..basicly im saying is im going to have the same output and vaping experience from my vv box mod that i bought for 30 bucks than i would have from a darwin, the atomizer heats up and vapor is produced theres nothing special about th darwin and frankly i think a total peice of crap, receiving the provari out of the box i was much more impressed with it seeing it in person than i was with the darwin, to me the provari in pictures looks kinda large and chunky, its actually a solid unit, probably exactly the size of a roll of quarters, doesnt feel hollow or cheap at all, im very happy with it and still am, like i said before the darwin is has shotty craftsmanship written all over it and a higher price to boot, dont listen to these darwin fans theyre just trying to overcompensate cuz they still think their unit is better, ive been on both sides of the fence already and around the block a few times, for the price of a darwin you can probaly afford a gg mod with a ufs and that is a real mod

 

[kabonk]

its a little bit smaller than a quater its more like a roll of nickels

 

[doots]

Darwin in my book. I had both devices. Got tired of trying to use LR atties and getting errors on the Pro Vari. Both are good PVs from my experience. If you are wanting to use SR atties or cartos then the Pro Vari. I like the fact I can use LRs on the Darwin at the wattage i want. Doesn't vape any better than a $35 VV Box mod as someone else pointed out. But in my case I found the Darwin is not junk as someone else has stated.. Priced too high, yes but junk, not in my opinion.

 

[ricks]

I avoided the Darwin because of moving parts. Just about anything that has moving parts will wear out and get loose. Provari is the best choice for a VV device.

 

[Liv2Ski]

Oh no another Vari vs. Darwin thread . I have both and each has pluses and minuses. I use both daily and if something were to happen to either platform I would replace them as quickly as possible. I like the Vari for tanks and attys. The Dawins for cartos. The new DCA though has been a blessing and makes the Darwin atty freindly for overzelous drippers like me. As far as VV or VP goes these units certianly bring more to the table than some lesser PV's. Whatever floats your boat and keeps you off smokes is the best PV. I am just happy that I am able to have both and look forward to what new top end gadgets the PV gods will bring us in the years to come.

 

[ProsperityGal]

Darwin in my book. I had both devices. Got tired of trying to use LR atties and getting errors on the Pro Vari. Both are good PVs from my experience. If you are wanting to use SR atties or cartos then the Pro Vari. I like the fact I can use LRs on the Darwin at the wattage i want. Doesn't vape any better than a $35 VV Box mod as someone else pointed out. But in my case I found the Darwin is not junk as someone else has stated.. Priced too high, yes but junk, not in my opinion.

I am upset with the Darwin because of the problems that I stated above. These issues cannot be just pushed aside.

Believe me, I was proud to be a Darwin owner. However, as stated above, there are issues. The button issue - right out of the box. The issue with the adapter - a real PITA. The arm flopping around.

A big chunk of change for a unit that is degrading with use.

I do not know if the Provari will degrade with use at this time. I'm just saying that the Darwin is degrading - mine anyway.

With the growing amount of cartos at all different Ohms and more improvements coming everyday, the issue with LRs is not a concern for me.

Value and the degree of craftmanship for the money, in the end, will get my OK. A high-end unit should have all of the kinks worked out before it goes to market.

I am disappointed with MY Darwin. You may have a better one.

 

[XKingXGregX]

I avoided the Darwin because of moving parts. Just about anything that has moving parts will wear out and get loose. Provari is the best choice for a VV device.

ya i had issues with that, id have to turn the knob a few times to get it to activate, eventually it wouldnt turn on at all, had to send it in for warrenty, and one time it was spinning 360 degrees id have t remeber what directin it was turned in so that the wires inside wouldnt twist....oh Yeah, They soldered wires onto that knob, you never solder wires to moving parts, its hack, i was hoping that when that knob turns it somehow made a solid contact to the switch, no, theres wires solders to it, and turning the knob pushes a tiny peice of a plastic, that pushes a spring that pushing into another peice of plastic into a button that turns the unit on, what is that? yes one of my units this configuration of lego-like peices came apart and the unit wouldnt turn on....

 

[XKingXGregX]

Darwin in my book. I had both devices. Got tired of trying to use LR atties and getting errors on the Pro Vari. Both are good PVs from my experience. If you are wanting to use SR atties or cartos then the Pro Vari. I like the fact I can use LRs on the Darwin at the wattage i want. Doesn't vape any better than a $35 VV Box mod as someone else pointed out. But in my case I found the Darwin is not junk as someone else has stated.. Priced too high, yes but junk, not in my opinion.

well thats your fault for buying lr atomziers for the provari it says all over their webpage their not recommended to be used on it, but will work if u pd it, even the darwin will adjust the voltage down in comparison to a atomizer with higher ohms, im not gonna lie the darwin works great and the battery life is great, but the unit is faulty and has a lot of quality issues...the look of the mod is weird and the overall construction of the internals are hack

 

[Str8V8ping]

I guess if i were to get one then id get the provari for its looks . It is a beautiful piece . The provari doesnt have much power though like said above . Im sure any of my homemade VV boxmods or tube mods can beat it in performance . The extra couple features is nice on it though .

 

[XKingXGregX]

provari it depends on if u put a higher resistance atomizer on it so u can dial it up to 6 volts....
someone wrote each has its own pluses and minuses....id rather have an average unit that works consistantly day in and day out than a one that might outperform but may eventually malfunction and stop working ...

i rely on my pv for peice of mind, i have to have backup units because i know ill either go nuts or smoke cigarettes if i was ever without my pv....owning a darwin is a gamble mine stopped working and i had to send it in for warrenty 4 or 5 times...enough said

 

[Fazed]

I have both, I like both. I've had no issues with either of them so far. I actually did a video review a while back comparing them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH1_WaMBRpw


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[XKingXGregX]

If I compared the two id say the darwin out preforms the provari but even a longer timeline using them both people will eventually realize the darwin isnt built to last its shotty craftsmanship what good is delivering vapor if the unit wont turn on and what good is a two year warrenty if you know your going to have to send it back once the watrenty is up becausr it continues to break down

 

[retird]

And tell everyone that Drew offered you a full refund if you sent the Darwin back, and some say you were sent a replacement Darwin and you never returned the loaner one....you are just going from thread to thread trashing the Darwin....

Provari got my vote too I owned both the darwin will malfunction or stop charging and youll have to send it in for warrenty and its craftmanship is shotty plus its like 100 dollars more expensive the provari is much sleeker and seems much better in quality and design. Vapor production is great for either unit but after having 4 or 5 darwins sent in for repair every 3 month I wouldnt recommend the darwin to anyone 250 bucks is a ripoff. I think with two batteries a provari is like 180 but more for extender but atleast u can upgrade later on if u decide to provari offers like a 3000mah battery now should last almost 3 days


Its hard to find true reviews on the darwin on the nhaler forum drew will edit posts he finds negative so only good things will be seen about the quality of the darwin not necessarily true for someone lookingfor a new pv I wish id gone the provari route from the start. Buzz pro is great too for a lower price of either

 

[XKingXGregX]

Ya and drew edits anyones posts that say anything negative about the darwin so that anyone doing research on a new mod will only see good things about it and not necessarily the reality of it being a shotty unit, ontop of that just posting that i had issues with it on the darwin thread caused an uproar of disbelief that the darwin is a superior unit and theres no way it could have broken on someone 5 times, but its true, and it wasnt user error or misuse. just writing that i had issues with it on the darwin forum caused people to hit the warn button to the moderators, i find that kind of unjustified

 

[XKingXGregX]

Ya I am trashing the darwin becausr its garbage and id like to warn people that for 250 bucks its a ripoff and suggest other more reliable mods that dont malfunction or degrade truth of the matter is wether u like it or not is I had five of these darwins die on me in 6 months I strongly recommend people not to waste their money on a darwin it is expensive and faulty