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zoiDman

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... and what about us poor suckers who don't have a drill press. I have some basic power tool skill, but I wouldn't even know how to use a drill press.

I'm a homebrewer, knitter, computer geek - not a woodworker ;)

I don't see why a Knitting Needle and a Hammer wouldn't work.
 

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I wonder if this Little Guy has enough Throw to Squeeze the Guts out of a Stardust?

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http://www.harborfreight.com/2-1-2-half-inch-table-swivel-vise-97160.html

Nice because you can clamp it onto a Table or Work Bench.
 

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You know what, guys? There was a time when i didn't want to even clean my cartos - I just wanted to vape without bother. I've surrendered on that point, because I like thick juices, and I can't afford to replace a 6 buck carto like a Stardust every three days.

But I draw the line at drill presses, C-clamps and hammers. I know how to used them. I just don't want to use them to be able to vape... :D

I guess I'll be getting me some tweezers...
 

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You know what, guys? There was a time when i didn't want to even clean my cartos - I just wanted to vape without bother. I've surrendered on that point, because I like thick juices, and I can't afford to replace a 6 buck carto like a Stardust every three days.

But I draw the line at drill presses, C-clamps and hammers. I know how to used them. I just don't want to use them to be able to vape... :D

I guess I'll be getting me some tweezers...

LOL.

I hear you. Seems like Vaping is 30% Vape and 70% Hobby.

BTW - That is why I made that Comment about making Cartos more Tank Like. If the Tube Screwed on then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

And a Huge Group of Non Drill Press / C-Clamp owners would brought into the Stardust Fold.
 
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Right on... the only complaint I have about them is I would like them to be easier to get clean. With the Visions, I can't take them apart either but at least I can let them sit for a couple days and the wicks dry out, then dry burn. With the Stardusts I can't take apart - the wicks never really dry out (and dry burning is a delicate operation). With my fluxos, I take them apart after each fill, clean, dry burn, and the wicks don't get as gummy. I don't ask for much ;)
 

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Yeah, a screw-on tube on a Stardust would be great.

Don't get me wrong here - I LOVE Stardusts. Once I got the hang of them, I haven't used anything else. But I need to be able to clean them in a reasonable way - meaning without industrial equipment. At this price it's just not a disposable unit - not for me, at any rate.

I haven't had any trouble cleaning them so far. I just hook the hat off, and do the dry burning routine as usual. Hair dryer helps with drying. I had one that the wicks got really badly gunked up with my coffee juice, and I never did get it all clean, even after taking it apart (hand power). But the rest of them are fine. I'm just a tad worried about this new cone thingie and getting the hat out with it...

I guess I'll see when I order a couple. I just hope they are still around tomorrow when I get paid.
 

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Just goes to show how very different some of us have been looking at them. Personally I got pretty excited by the idea of the cone, because it will help me. Never really thought it might diminish the rebuilders. Hmmm, I smell a market, I bet rebuilders end up being very interested in the used ones out of first shipment from people who don't rebuild.
 

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Yeah, a screw-on tube on a Stardust would be great.

Don't get me wrong here - I LOVE Stardusts. Once I got the hang of them, I haven't used anything else. But I need to be able to clean them in a reasonable way - meaning without industrial equipment. At this price it's just not a disposable unit - not for me, at any rate.

I haven't had any trouble cleaning them so far. I just hook the hat off, and do the dry burning routine as usual. Hair dryer helps with drying. I had one that the wicks got really badly gunked up with my coffee juice, and I never did get it all clean, even after taking it apart (hand power). But the rest of them are fine. I'm just a tad worried about this new cone thingie and getting the hat out with it...

I guess I'll see when I order a couple. I just hope they are still around tomorrow when I get paid.

Sounds like the solvent they have been working on may be more important now than ever. Time to clamor ;)
 

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I don't think I like the idea of using solvent to clean the wicks and wire. But then again I can take them apart and put new ones in. Perhaps I should start a business and offer this as a solution to those who don't want to take them apart.

I don't see any reason why the new ones with the new cone in it will keep anyone from taking it out and replacing it.
 

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I don't see any reason why the new ones with the new cone in it will keep anyone from taking it out and replacing it.

I don't know if it will be a problem for cleaning - yet. Someone mentioned that he was able to get it out with jewelry tweezers. I don't think I have small enough tweezers to do the job, but I'll have to see once I get the new version in. Maybe some of my wire tweezers will do. I do some metalwork and wirewrapping, so I might have something... Maybe the specialty tweezers for making small o-rings...

My concern is basically grabbing the cone tightly enough to squeeze the silicone hat out through the opening which is smaller than the diameter of said hat. You can do it easily enough by hooking the current version with a dental tool or something similar through the top hole in the hat. But now there is no hole, instead we have a cone - thus my concern.

It may be nothing though. Probably not worth worrying about just yet. Besides, if worse comes to worse, I can get most of them apart without heavy duty tools - it just takes some patience.

I can understand folks wanting to fool around with re-wicking and such, but it's just not for me. I have umpteen million other projects to do, I just don't have the energy for this right now. :)
 

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Find yourself one of the clear thin juices you can tolerate and put a tankfull through the Stardust with your gunked up wick and see if it is any easier to clean. I do this with my eGo-T's and 510-T's all the time and hardly ever have to remove the spike plate, just stick them in a small ultrasonic cleaner with vodka for a few minutes, then let soak overnight in the vodka, then rinse with water, ultrasonic again with water then leave out in the sun for a few hours. Do a quick couple of dry burns, a bit of the clear eliquid again for a while, then back into the sludge producing favourite juice.

I've been using the same eGo-T type B (regular) since Christmas putting at least a tankfull through it every day and have cleaned it twice. Still hits like a train and currently I have been using it at 4.7v with some eco-pure royal. I can't even take a full hit from it as there is too much vapour for my lungs to hold. Gotta love it.
 

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Specifically on this improvement they were looking at making the top of the Stardust (aligning with the airstem) more stable so that there is more likely a good, true seal created. They really, really don't mind modders to extend the life of the unit because they are smart enough to know that the word gets out and their purchasing base grows and nothing lasts forever, when the modder absolutely needs more product they will return. They also know that people buy these in multiple amounts to sometimes have extra for various juices and a supply there at all times for when they haven't had time to clean and disassemble. (this is written also for benefit of lurking readers from friendly vaping production environment)

We've conveyed to them the idea, to make, especially something like this, where we have to charge a higher price per, completely accessible to maintenance at the user's discretion.

Now my thoughts on making the base threaded. I am not crazy about that idea myself. It introduces more variables into the what-might-go-wrong scenario. First you could have faulty threading at the factory causing cross-threading. You have factory workers getting frustrated and under the gun with production quotas who would force the unit into the threading and be done with it. On the user side you have more chances the end-user himself might cross-thread it on his own and then we have CS issues, them swearing up and down it wasn't them - and when you are speaking of threading a plastic tube onto a metal base its more likely to happen as the metal base will cut into the plastic threading (like the knife through butter) and allow mishaps/cracking/splitting to happen. Then you have the QC issues we face with aforementioned factory in our friendly vaping equipment production country/environment with one more thing that could be fouled. I obfuscated my last point purposely as managers of aforementioned production environment follow our threads in the GotVapes forum...closely ;)

If they ever do this it will be an accompanying model and not to replace the non-threaded model we have now. Believe me, Chris and I have discussed this with each other and them.





LOL.

I hear you. Seems like Vaping is 30% Vape and 70% Hobby.

BTW - That is why I made that Comment about making Cartos more Tank Like. If the Tube Screwed on then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

And a Huge Group of Non Drill Press / C-Clamp owners would brought into the Stardust Fold.
 

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Specifically on this improvement they were looking at making the top of the Stardust (aligning with the airstem) more stable so that there is more likely a good, true seal created. They really, really don't mind modders to extend the life of the unit because they are smart enough to know that the word gets out and their purchasing base grows and nothing lasts forever, when the modder absolutely needs more product they will return. They also know that people buy these in multiple amounts to sometimes have extra for various juices and a supply there at all times for when they haven't had time to clean and disassemble. (this is written also for benefit of lurking readers from friendly vaping production environment)

We've conveyed to them the idea, to make, especially something like this, where we have to charge a higher price per, completely accessible to maintenance at the user's discretion.

Now my thoughts on making the base threaded. I am not crazy about that idea myself. It introduces more variables into the what-might-go-wrong scenario. First you could have faulty threading at the factory causing cross-threading. You have factory workers getting frustrated and under the gun with production quotas who would force the unit into the threading and be done with it. On the user side you have more chances the end-user himself might cross-thread it on his own and then we have CS issues, them swearing up and down it wasn't them - and when you are speaking of threading a plastic tube onto a metal base its more likely to happen as the metal base will cut into the plastic threading (like the knife through butter) and allow mishaps/cracking/splitting to happen. Then you have the QC issues we face with aforementioned factory in our friendly vaping equipment production country/environment with one more thing that could be fouled. I obfuscated my last point purposely as managers of aforementioned production environment follow our threads in the GotVapes forum...closely ;)

If they ever do this it will be an accompanying model and not to replace the non-threaded model we have now. Believe me, Chris and I have discussed this with each other and them.

Thank you Daniel & Chris for working with the manufacturers and always striving for the best with our needs and ultimate satisfaction as you goal!
Much appreciated my friend!;)
 

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Daniel, thank you so much for the feedback - it's really, really appreciated.

For my part, I definitely see what you are talking about with threading and introducing another possible failure point. It makes sense.

But there has to be a way to make the Stardust more "disassembleable" (there, I invented a word! :D) I guess an engineer (or you guys) will have to figure out how to best do it. Even with my extremely limited resources, I wouldn't mind paying more for a modular version of this unit. Frankly, busy as I am, I would MUCH rather just replace the coil and wick without the bother of having to wrap the thing myself, then to clean it. Assuming the replacement wick-coil assembly is reasonably priced, like a buck or so.

IMHO, "reasonable" for this kind of thing (at least what I'd pay) would be $10 for the complete carto, and about a buck for the wick/coil assembly. I'd love that setup. I bet everyone would. Of course the wick/coil thingie would have to be priced so that you guys can make profit, or it doesn't make sense for you - there you'd have to tell us if this is possible.

Anywho, it seems to me that the Stardust is so far ahead of other cartos in taste, vapor production, and ease of use that I don't really want to use anything else - tanks, whatever, it all leaves me cold now. I just tossed a whole bunch of other cartos that were sitting there waiting to be cleaned - I realized that I will never used them. Even as much as I love my fancy drip tips, I still prefer the Stardust...

Oh, BTW, I know someone suggested it before, but I'd like to add my voice to the suggestion: it would be absolutely great if Stardust mouthpiece came in fancy colors and such. I'd be willing to pay for it, certainly. Give some personal character to it. Would love it. I be folks would buy them - and lots of them.

Specifically on this improvement they were looking at making the top of the Stardust (aligning with the airstem) more stable so that there is more likely a good, true seal created. They really, really don't mind modders to extend the life of the unit because they are smart enough to know that the word gets out and their purchasing base grows and nothing lasts forever, when the modder absolutely needs more product they will return. They also know that people buy these in multiple amounts to sometimes have extra for various juices and a supply there at all times for when they haven't had time to clean and disassemble. (this is written also for benefit of lurking readers from friendly vaping production environment)

We've conveyed to them the idea, to make, especially something like this, where we have to charge a higher price per, completely accessible to maintenance at the user's discretion.

Now my thoughts on making the base threaded. I am not crazy about that idea myself. It introduces more variables into the what-might-go-wrong scenario. First you could have faulty threading at the factory causing cross-threading. You have factory workers getting frustrated and under the gun with production quotas who would force the unit into the threading and be done with it. On the user side you have more chances the end-user himself might cross-thread it on his own and then we have CS issues, them swearing up and down it wasn't them - and when you are speaking of threading a plastic tube onto a metal base its more likely to happen as the metal base will cut into the plastic threading (like the knife through butter) and allow mishaps/cracking/splitting to happen. Then you have the QC issues we face with aforementioned factory in our friendly vaping equipment production country/environment with one more thing that could be fouled. I obfuscated my last point purposely as managers of aforementioned production environment follow our threads in the GotVapes forum...closely ;)

If they ever do this it will be an accompanying model and not to replace the non-threaded model we have now. Believe me, Chris and I have discussed this with each other and them.
 

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Thanks lots. :) Now I see what you are talking about... I have that tool in my jewelry supply box, just not sure if it's small enough. Oh well. When I get the new Stardusts in, I'll find out. If not, I'll just get a smaller version. Great to know that you can get the hat out for cleaning. Happy now. :D


Briar, I used a pair of jewelry round-nose pliers to remove the metal cone and silicone seal. It was actually easier to remove this way than using a dental tool, because it came straight up thru the squeegee.

Amazon.com: Beadsmith Jewelry Fine Round Nose Micro Pliers: Arts, Crafts & Sewing
 
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