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Lessifer

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Thats why nicotine should be bought NOW!

In 10 days almost everything will be classified as a tobacco product.

mods and Attys should be available for another two years.

Never know when USPS will classify 100 mg/ml nicotine will be classified a hazardous item and can't be shipped at all.

Thank God i went 0 mg nic 7 months ago
True, we likely won't see everything coming before it hits, so if you're able to, buy what you can. Nic is likely the most important. Unless you don't use it.
 
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Another question for you helpful folks,

Do you think a box mod with internal battery (non replaceable) will last a few years? Or should I go for a 18650 mod?
Deffinitely recommend a replaceable battery mod.

When the internal battery is dead so is your mod.

Also get a dedicated charger. If a battery vents better to destroy a $14 charger than your mod and force you back on the stinkies.
 

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Deffinitely recommend a replaceable battery mod.

When the internal battery is dead so is your mod.

Also get a dedicated charger. If a battery vents better to destroy a $14 charger than your mod and force you back on the stinkies.
So speaking of long term use, should I avoid temperature control/VV devices with circuitry? Or they should last a few years?
 

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Will I still be able to buy nicotine, pg, vg after Aug 8?

Im planning on getting some flavoring from mtbakervapor before they stop selling. But it seems they won't be selling their unflavored juice any more. Does this mean every vendor will stop selling DIY juice supplies? Or is this part of the "unknown so stock up before then"

Also box mods, RDAs? I have 0 knowledge of all of this stuff I've been vaping off an ego + protank combo buying replacement coils for the last 3 years. So not only am I trying to learn what will/will not be for sale in the future, I'm also trying to figure out what I need. And the cherry on top is I'm in PA.
I see you are still using ProTanks, me too. have a look here ProVari™ Variable Voltage V2.5 with Digital Display - Satin Silver
if you click the link you can click on specials at the drop down bar up top and see the other options on sale, this unit originally was priced at around 170$. Maybe it's not for you, maybe it is. You will need button top batteries and a charger . Just thought I'd share it with you in case you didn't know. Good luck!
 

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So speaking of long term use, should I avoid temperature control/VV devices with circuitry? Or they should last a few years?
That one is a tougher question. A good regulated mod(TC or VV/VW) should last a couple years or more, but electronics do wear out. Some mechanical mods are more durable, or have easily replaced parts, but if you're not familiar with mechs there are safety concerns you need to learn.

Edit: ENAUD's suggestion above of a provari is definitely a good one for you.
 

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Yeah, i don't pay attention to the details of stuff happening outside my own state, so the details may have changed ( or may have stayed the same ), i don't know. But i do remember Casaa calls to action throughout 2015. At some point they thought the danger had passed, but the governor vetoed the first budget proposal, and the 40% tax was brought back in to the mix sometime late last year. Sorry don't know if the 40% floor tax waas part of the first proposal or not, but given how cash-strapped they are, my guess is that they would include it. They wouldn't want retailers ordering tons of stuff prior to implementation of the tax to work around tax. Just a guess though.
The expected revenue from the entire PA vape tax amounts to less tha $1.10/capita/per annum. A 40% inventory tax could have one and only one intent: to bankrupt the PA vape industry.
 

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I see you are still using ProTanks, me too. have a look here ProVari™ Variable Voltage V2.5 with Digital Display - Satin Silver
if you click the link you can click on specials at the drop down bar up top and see the other options on sale, this unit originally was priced at around 170$. Maybe it's not for you, maybe it is. You will need button top batteries and a charger . Just thought I'd share it with you in case you didn't know. Good luck!

Well that kinda p***es me off, I bought two of those exact units just last weekend from the same place and paid almost twice that price. I guess the inventory tax really is a huge thing, and it may be worth it to wait a bit, unless things sell out before you hit the checkout button. Maybe the tax is based on the selling price on 8/8, in which case it could be wise to buy on the last day? Decisions, decisions...

I'm almost tempted to scoop up quality stuff at these prices and sell them privately later.
 
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The expected revenue from the entire PA vape tax amounts to less tha $1.10/capita/per annum. A 40% inventory tax could have one and only one intent: to bankrupt the PA vape industry.
No. They want all the vapers Back on tge cancer sticks so they get taxes out the wazoo from same of tobacco, and the tobacco companies paying $billions so the States can waste money on things they can't afford on things they don't need all in an attempt to buy votes.
 

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I would go with a 18650 mod, a sturdy one with good 510 threading. My two iSticks have been going strong for close to two years, but they are hit and miss from what i hear.

Are mods subject to the 40% tax too, i thought it was just eliquid.

The 40% tax is supposed to cover anything that is purchased in order for you to use "an electronic oral device...which provides a vapor....of which simulate smoking". Clarity is desperately lacking in the raw materials department, particularly if they are purchased in state. Out-of-state purchases that you make you may know the intended use and pay the appropriate tax. In-state the retailer should have know before the sale what I was going to with the item and their wholesaler should have already paid the tax. Also, if the material is used for manufacture, regular maintaince, or repair has an impact. In addition, pure VG is a raw material for some and a finished product for others. Also, items that were purchased as a household supply and later get used in an "electronic cigarette" cause an issue because the purchaser never intended to use the item as a tobacco product, but after the purchase did use the item in a tobacco product.
 
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I for one will be glad when this date has past and we know for sure what is and what isn't. This American mentality of extreme doom is ridiculous and what rules our country recently. Which is sad, and not how this country was founded or built. Jus sayin:confused::tumble:
Remember the Millennium scare years ago that turned out to be nothing at all
 

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I for one will be glad when this date has past and we know for sure what is and what isn't. This American mentality of extreme doom is ridiculous and what rules our country recently. Which is sad, and not how this country was founded or built. Jus sayin:confused::tumble:
Remember the Millennium scare years ago that turned out to be nothing at all
If you question the "extreme doom" here you have not read anything about the deeming regulations... this is not a millennium scare.
 

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If you question the "extreme doom" here you have not read anything about the deeming regulations... this is not a millennium scare.
I have read through things, however we shall soon see what comes out in the wash. I have prepared for the onset confusion, but still say we shall soon see what we shall see
 

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I have read through things, however we shall soon see what comes out in the wash. I have prepared for the onset confusion, but still say we shall soon see what we shall see
May be it's time to revive the old good existentialism.

In the view of the existentialist, the individual's starting point is characterized by what has been called "the existential attitude", or a sense of disorientation and confusion in the face of an apparently meaningless or absurd world.
Existentialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Most batteries are rated for so many charge cycles, so eventually the battery will not hold the charge like it used to. I think 200-400 cycles is the norm.

Also note that batteries go dead after a few years, whether you use them or not.

But 18650 batteries are used in a bunch of other non-vaping applications and will probably be available for a long, long time. So I'd put batteries far down on your prioritized list.
 

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Also I hope you saved your old protank coils, those can be rebuilt. They are pretty easy to rebuild by watching a couple you tube vids you should be proficient at it in no time. Definately check into 100mg nicotine before its too late, you will thank us all later. All the mods and rtas and rdas will be available for a couple years and maybe they will be pretty cheap when only do it yourselfers own refillable tanks and everybody else is forced to either ciggies, smokealikes or find a friend that purchased nicotine liquid before the ban on sale. Good luck.
 

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Also note that batteries go dead after a few years, whether you use them or not.

But 18650 batteries are used in a bunch of other non-vaping applications and will probably be available for a long, long time. So I'd put batteries far down on your prioritized list.
Right, but choosing a mod that takes 18650 batteries, instead of having an internal battery, should be higher on that list.
 

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Also I hope you saved your old protank coils, those can be rebuilt. They are pretty easy to rebuild by watching a couple you tube vids you should be proficient at it in no time. Definately check into 100mg nicotine before its too late, you will thank us all later. All the mods and rtas and rdas will be available for a couple years and maybe they will be pretty cheap when only do it yourselfers own refillable tanks and everybody else is forced to either ciggies, smokealikes or find a friend that purchased nicotine liquid before the ban on sale. Good luck.
For rebuilding Protank coils I highly recommend coils from Fasttech, they have legs of low resistance wire (welded), so they will not heat and will not damage rubber insulator. You can find coils with various resistance, for example 1.5 ohm:
$1.84 Pre-Coiled Welded Wires - NR-R-NR (50-Pack) 50-pack - 32 AWG / 1.5ohm / 30*30mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
 
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Right, but choosing a mod that takes 18650 batteries, instead of having an internal battery, should be higher on that list.

I totally agree, Lessifer.

If this were still the Golden Age of Vaping, as opposed to Vapemageddon, I'd have some fun playing with an AIO, for instance. But now, it'd just be wasted money in a few years after the internal battery died of old age.
 

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For rebuilding Protank coils I highly recommend coils from Fasttech, they have legs of low resistance wire (welded), so they will not heat and will not damage rubber insulator. You can find coils with various resistance, for example 1.5 ohm:
$1.84 Pre-Coiled Welded Wires - NR-R-NR (50-Pack) 50-pack - 32 AWG / 1.5ohm / 30*30mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Are these the same coils they use to build replacement heads? 50 for a dolla seems too good to be true
 
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Are these the same coils they use to build replacement heads? 50 for a dolla seems too good to be true
I think they could be the same. I used them for a while when I was rebuilding coils for my clearos with protank heads (for about half year). So, I still have about 40 of these coils for Vapocalypes.
 
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