Considering a Reo a bit overwhelmed.

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Hey folks. So I've been using a Provari for over a year now but am starting to become curious about what the bottom feeding world is like, in particular with the io6 atomizer. I was hoping I could get some simple feedback here from the dedicated users. Any tips/info would be awesome. I've been looking through the links but its a bit overwhelming for me.

I'm looking to use an io6 atomizer with AW IMR batteries, preferably either the 18490 or 18650. I've seen stacked AW IMR batteries in certain Reos - is this less safe?

I think I like the aluminum better but the wood is quite interesting as well. I'm a little confused as to how the juice actually goes up the bottle into the atomizer, but if it works it works. What size bottles do all these take, and how low can get the bottle get while delivering juice?

I'm looking at the 18490 wooden VV at the moment because it would be hard for me to part with VV. Is it easy to dial in precise voltages with that set up? If I go without the VV, I would probably go for around 8 watts with the 1.8 ohm and 3.7v battery, but I know ohms and battery levels can vary a lot. Anyone have any input on that?

One last thing I was curious about...when you bottom feed does it get the bridge wet of an atty? If not does this affect performance?

I'm totally interested in Reos all of a sudden and am trying to see if they are right for me. Anyways off to go research them a bit more and watch some youtube videos.
 

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Hey folks. So I've been using a Provari for over a year now but am starting to become curious about what the bottom feeding world is like, in particular with the io6 atomizer. I was hoping I could get some simple feedback here from the dedicated users. Any tips/info would be awesome. I've been looking through the links but its a bit overwhelming for me.

I'm looking to use an io6 atomizer with AW IMR batteries, preferably either the 18490 or 18650. I've seen stacked AW IMR batteries in certain Reos - is this less safe?

Reosmods.com has a few different models.
  • Reo Grand uses a 18650 battery (as does the Woodvil 18650)
  • Reo Mini uses a 14500 battery (as does the Woodvil 14500)
  • Reo Woodvil 18490 uses (duh!) a 18490 battery (a metal version is in production)
  • Variable Voltage Woodvils go on sale April 28th at 7pm EST and use two 18350 or 16340 batteries (a metal version, the VV Grand, is in production)

AW IMR batteries are the recommended batteries for all Reo models. All Reos have native 510/306 atomizer connectors, so the i06 would work just fine. 801 native connectors have been provided on wood Reos to some goofy customers via special request. I recall a customer across the pond getting a 901 connector on his wood Reo.



I think I like the aluminum better but the wood is quite interesting as well. I'm a little confused as to how the juice actually goes up the bottle into the atomizer, but if it works it works. What size bottles do all these take, and how low can get the bottle get while delivering juice?

Reo Grand and Woodvil 18650 use 6 mL bottles. Reo Mini and Woodvils 14500 and 18490 use 3 mL bottles. The VV Woodvils and Grands will use 6 mL bottles. The juice is pressure fed by squeezing the bottle (squonking). The juice travels up a tube thru a hole in the bottom of the atomizer connector thru the hole in the bottom of the atomizer to the coil and wick. The tube extends to the bottom of the bottles and you can get pretty much 97% of the bottle's capacity up to the atomizer before you'd need to refill the bottle.

I'm looking at the 18490 wooden VV at the moment because it would be hard for me to part with VV. Is it easy to dial in precise voltages with that set up? If I go without the VV, I would probably go for around 8 watts with the 1.8 ohm and 3.7v battery, but I know ohms and battery levels can vary a lot. Anyone have any input on that?

The 18490 Woodvils are not VV models. They deliver unregulated voltage from the battery to the atomizer. The upcoming VV models will use the same voltage regulation electronics found in the BuzzPro sold by notcigs.com. The voltage range available from this setup is 3.3 volts up to 5.5 volts. You turn the dial to adjust the voltage. You'd need an external volt meter to determine the exact voltage setting, but I personally plan to start at the lowest setting and bump it up till I like the flavor, vapor, and throat hit.

One last thing I was curious about...when you bottom feed does it get the bridge wet of an atty? If not does this affect performance?

All you need to get wet is the coil and wick. You can feed it enough juice to soak the bridge, but at that point the atomizer is usually flooded and won't perform well at all. Atomizer bridges were originally designed to bump up against juice soaked filler in a cartridge and wick the juice from the filler to the wick and coil of the atomizer. They don't need to be wet on a bottom feeding device like the Reo.

I'm totally interested in Reos all of a sudden and am trying to see if they are right for me. Anyways off to go research them a bit more and watch some youtube videos.

Response above in green. I hope that helps.
 

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I'm going to try and answer what I can here.

Hey folks. So I've been using a Provari for over a year now but am starting to become curious about what the bottom feeding world is like, in particular with the io6 atomizer. I was hoping I could get some simple feedback here from the dedicated users. Any tips/info would be awesome. I've been looking through the links but its a bit overwhelming for me.

Once you hold it and use it, you won't regret it

I'm looking to use an io6 atomizer with AW IMR batteries, preferably either the 18490 or 18650. I've seen stacked AW IMR batteries in certain Reos - is this less safe?

I've never used the io6 atty's but I've used regular 306's without issue on both my woodvil & mini. I find its a bit better on my woodvil just because of the larger juice capacity & battery life

I think I like the aluminum better but the wood is quite interesting as well. I'm a little confused as to how the juice actually goes up the bottle into the atomizer, but if it works it works. What size bottles do all these take, and how low can get the bottle get while delivering juice?

Everybody loves wood :D
But seriously, there is a tube that connects up to the bottom of the atty connector (the positive end of the 510 connection) and that goes through the cap in the bottle all the way to the bottom of the bottle. So basically its good to the last drop almost.


I'm looking at the 18490 wooden VV at the moment because it would be hard for me to part with VV. Is it easy to dial in precise voltages with that set up? If I go without the VV, I would probably go for around 8 watts with the 1.8 ohm and 3.7v battery, but I know ohms and battery levels can vary a lot. Anyone have any input on that?

Since the VV woodvil's haven't been released yet, I can't answer, check back with me in a month after my nic coma :D

One last thing I was curious about...when you bottom feed does it get the bridge wet of an atty? If not does this affect performance?

This depends on how much juice you feed. You could flood it, or starve it. When I use a 510 atty I usually flood it. When I use a carto, I hardly have any juice in the catch cup.

I'm totally interested in Reos all of a sudden and am trying to see if they are right for me. Anyways off to go research them a bit more and watch some youtube videos.

I like Mudflap answers better.
 
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Thanks a lot Mudflap and zer0ith - both of you ! :) It helps a bunch, much appreciated. It cleared up a lot of things actually. I will probably wait for the 18490 aluminum. The VV woodvil is temping though and if I'm correct two 18350 will actually last longer than an 18490 anyway. I just don't know how I feel about stacking batteries. I'll look into it a bit more and see as it gets closer to them coming out.

Thanks folks. Wish me the will to make the purchase.
 

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wish will wish will wish will!! JUST DO IT!!! LOL!!!

LOL. I know right? I'm in dire desire of a bottom feeder right now. Ideally I would like a Reo Grand VV...I just don't know if I can wait that long! Ahhh. Might have to settle for the extra battery life and juice capacity of the regular Grand and be done with it. Decisions...
 

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I have a REO Grand and two Minis. I have had Woodvils, but i do not do well with wood mods. My current REOs are virtually indestructible. I have used 5V batteries in my Grand with good results. My Reos are my main vapes these days. My Grand has been stepped on by a 1000# horse, and still works like it did on day one. Cleaning them is very easy, I just run under hot water let them dry then reinstall battery, bottle, and atomizer or cartomizer and vape away.
 

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I have a REO Grand and two Minis. I have had Woodvils, but i do not do well with wood mods. My current REOs are virtually indestructible. I have used 5V batteries in my Grand with good results. My Reos are my main vapes these days. My Grand has been stepped on by a 1000# horse, and still works like it did on day one. Cleaning them is very easy, I just run under hot water let them dry then reinstall battery, bottle, and atomizer or cartomizer and vape away.

Thats cool bjannr. I like the idea of the aluminum being virtually indestructible! I'm leaning toward that over the wood now. I've decided on the Grand after doing some more research, the battery life and juice capacity just add up to a lot of hassle free time saved over time.

The real question for me is shall I try to get a Grand next week or wait another month for the VV Grand. I think the VV is awesome and I just can't get the idea that its the "new and improved" version out of my head. Downsides are cost, can't be washed as easily. Thanks for the input, I think I have it narrowed down now :)
 

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I believe that the VV Grand and Wood Reos have longer battery life than vaping a single 18650. As the 18650 gets used the volts drop off and many change them out around 3.8 or so. The few people that have the VV models say they vape for a very long time on the stacked batteries.
LOL. I know right? I'm in dire desire of a bottom feeder right now. Ideally I would like a Reo Grand VV...I just don't know if I can wait that long! Ahhh. Might have to settle for the extra battery life and juice capacity of the regular Grand and be done with it. Decisions...
 

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Since you have been using a Provari I think you would be happier with the VV.

Thats cool bjannr. I like the idea of the aluminum being virtually indestructible! I'm leaning toward that over the wood now. I've decided on the Grand after doing some more research, the battery life and juice capacity just add up to a lot of hassle free time saved over time.

The real question for me is shall I try to get a Grand next week or wait another month for the VV Grand. I think the VV is awesome and I just can't get the idea that its the "new and improved" version out of my head. Downsides are cost, can't be washed as easily. Thanks for the input, I think I have it narrowed down now :)
 

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I believe that the VV Grand and Wood Reos have longer battery life than vaping a single 18650. As the 18650 gets used the volts drop off and many change them out around 3.8 or so. The few people that have the VV models say they vape for a very long time on the stacked batteries.

The VV Grand and regular Grand don't take the same batteries? I was hoping I could use an 18650 on either the Grand or VV Grand.
 

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The Grand takes one 18650. THe VV Grand will take 2 18350s. The VV must output more than 3.7 volts. The 2 batteries then can output 7.4 volts and the electronics will regulate that down to the voltage that is dialed in. It can't boost voltage hence 2 batteries are required for higher potential voltage.

The VV Grand and regular Grand don't take the same batteries? I was hoping I could use an 18650 on either the Grand or VV Grand.
 

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The Grand takes one 18650. THe VV Grand will take 2 18350s. The VV must output more than 3.7 volts. The 2 batteries then can output 7.4 volts and the electronics will regulate that down to the voltage that is dialed in. It can't boost voltage hence 2 batteries are required for higher potential voltage.

Ah gotcha, thanks. That makes sense. I'm too used to the Provari as you can see lol. But I want to feed my attys :( hehe. I really appreciate all the help.

I'm sure my impulse will be to attempt to snag a nice Grand sometime next week, but maybe fate will somehow disallow that and I will end up with a VV Grand. Either way my attys will be happy methinks.
 

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you could always kick a reo grand if you can get your hands on a kick that is, I've been rocken mine since last Monday and I love love love my Goldie Grand again the poor thing has been collecting dust since I went VV

Your right about that and its a nice option to have for sure. That factor might throw me over the edge to just grab a standard Grand. Was it difficult to do?

I'm only anxious to get a Reo because Diablo 3 comes out May 15th and I want to have pure vaping bliss while playing that game :)
 

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Can the bottle inside the Reo be filled by sticking a needle tip bottle through the 510 connection so it just goes down the tube into the bottle?
That would take a long time to do. I don't think it would be good either. There is a gasket in the connection and pressure might cause problems. It is not difficult to unscrew the bottle and fill. Simple and quickly done. Why risk anything happening to the connector?
 
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