Contact the FDA - Before December 28th!!

[sparky_ahs]

There is one fatal flaw in posting about electronic cigarettes, they are not a tobacco product. This is a separate issue and I believe that posting on this topic and mentioning electronic cigarettes will hurt us pv users more then help anything because we would be conceding and supporting the FDA in classifying pv's as a tobacco product.

I am not telling you to not post, but please click ' view docket folder ' (up and to the right from the enter information field) and read the first item in the docket folder. If you decide to post please let it be an informed decision.

 

[JoeMcPlumber]

If you decide to post please let it be an informed decision.

Thank you for that.

I think Sparky has a valid point, and perhaps our comments on this matter should be limited to "please do not consider e-cigarettes as tobacco products at all, but rather let them remain on the market until vetted as a separate issue."

Please see Ira M. Huff's excellent, if rather long argument:
Regulations.gov

-joe

EDIT: Oh, but from the item Sparky cited:

We are particularly interested in comments on the approaches and
actions the agency should consider initially to increase the likelihood
of reducing the incidence and prevalence of tobacco product use and
protecting the public health.

I'd say that our e-cigs do that very well indeed!

 

[JinniVapour]

Wrote a simple short message on how I quit smoking using the e-cig..
It could save many lives.. that's all...

NOBODY IS GOING TO READ IT.. I'm 100% certain

 

[marathon]

Done. Hopefully they will listen.

 

[sparky_ahs]

Please see Ira M. Huff's excellent, if rather long argument:
Regulations.gov

-joe

I read it, and that is a very well put together argument. Thank you for drawing attention to it.

 

[DapperDan]

Done!

All this news makes me wish I hadn't spent two grand this xmas...should have stocked up!!!

 

[Charlie58]

Comment submitted

 

[darkmatter22]

sent. this WILL WORK!

 

[SurfSot]

I know they've taken certain flavored cigarettes off the market (for the time being).
I would be satisfied to just have No-Nic Flavorings and then mix with different strengths of No Flavor Nic Juice.
I SENT IN MY YEA VOTE!!

 

[whimzkool]

I did enjoy Dr. Siegel's scathing and sarcastic response... good stuff
Regulations.gov

I am currently about half-way through reading the proposed act. At present, I am hesitant about leaving a comment as it relates to e-cigs. Given the statement under the findings that "Nicotine addiction is a chronic disease." Whether e-cigs are used for replacement or cessation, they represent a delivery system designed to address a "chronic disease." It would seem they are destined to be regulated as a medical device. I will continue my reading and will attempt to make a measured response as it relates to those passages that could possibly be construed as e-cig relevant.

 

[Slighter]

Done and done

This is my favorite parts of what I sent:

I am NOT fine with :
- a possible flavoring ban for e-cigarettes If minors can not buy them how can this be enticing to youth? Not only that young people are not interested in waiting to order flavors or even switching from real cigarettes. The real market here is 30 yrs old and up. It is no different then buying nicotine gum etc. Please let grown adults make their own decisions on flavors. After all menthol cigs are still legal. The two most popular cigarettes have always been regular flavor by far then menthol.

Please keep these legal in public places. This is no more harmful to the public than a nicitrol inhaler. In other words not at all.

I am switching to this product from cigarettes and I am 39 yrs old. My thinking is that flavors without tobacco flavor will keep me off cigarettes for good. My Dr is very happy about this. Please do not take away my choices.

Couldn't have said it better. I'll try not quote you verbatim.

 

[joshua_95602]

ok i did my part on this one all i can do now is cross my fingers

 

[plantlvr]

Done! Any voice we give to this issue is better than silence!

 

[jennlsnoopy]

I wrote something too.

 

[BanjoMan]

Done and thanks for the link.

 

[JoeMcPlumber]

I did enjoy Dr. Siegel's scathing and sarcastic response...

Personally, I think the revelation that cigarette smoke contains n-dotriacontane is going to be earth shattering. After hearing this shocking news, I predict that no smoker will ever pick up another cigarette in his or her life. You know, when it was only known by smokers that they were inhaling n-hentriacontane and n-tritriacontane, smoking rates were really high. But now that smokers are going to find out that there is also n-dotriacontane in there, I think smoking rates are going to plummet.

-joe

 

[Kimmy]

I don't understand the flavoring aspect. Adults can't enjoy tasty flavors?

 

[CheeMiss]

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I hope I didn't misunderstand the original post, but I think I'd have difficulty urging the FDA "....to propose reasonable and responsible regulations for e-cigarettes and e-liquid as either a tobacco product or as a drug-delivery device." To ask the FDA to regulate the e-cig as a tobacco product is to ask them to fool the public into believing the e-cig is what it is not, a tobacco product.

Although I believe that to think the FDA is interested in reasonable and responsible regulations of any kind is wishful thinking, I wouldn't discourage communication with them. But please let's not misrepresent the personal vaporizer to them as a tobacco product that should suffer the same regulations.

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GREAT POST & I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLE HEARTEDLY!!!

Watch your verbage.....by volunteering that the e-cig is like a tobacco product, which is it NOT, you have just opened a can of worms that cannot be closed once open.

The FDA is controlled by big business and the people that put them there ARE big business. Don't fool yourself into thinking that we, the little people put them there. History has proven that dealing with the FDA is an effort in futility. Big business calls the shots, because we allow them to. If we boycotted their products they would have to listen to us. yes? no?

Personally, I feel letters to your local politicians and even to
President Obama or Canada's PM Stephen Harper, local newspapers, emails to be passed around the world will get you further ahead. Gain public opinion on your side and you gain clout.

Sending letters to the FDA is like asking the Nazi police to spare your life. lolololol Your pleas will go unnoticed! And you all know that.

Don't concern yourselves to much with the Anti this or that Extremists. They are a very tiny group. To acknowledge them is to give them power. When one of them insists that I put out my e-cig because the smell of the vapor bothers them, I just smile and say that there is no odor.....they insist there is, then I point out it's my perfume that they are smelling and if they don't like it they are welcome contact their local politician and insist on banning pleasant scents. And I continue vaping. lolololol Extremists are people with serious MENTAL ISSUES and I personally REFUSE to give them credence. This is my country too! I value and fight for our FREEDOM and I OPPOSE DICTATORSHIP when it is being forced upon me.

I repeat, sending letters to someone that is or wants to hurt you will get you no where. Sending letters to politicians that want your vote in the next election is where you should be focusing your attention. As they have the power to override the ominous FDA.

Remember, you the voter, only have clout with the politicians, who want and NEED your vote in the next election!

Again, that is only my personal opinion.

Merry Christmas everyone.

 

[Bill Godshall]

If even half of the people who have posted messages on this forum simply sends a comment to the FDA urging reasonable and responsible regulations for e-cigarettes (instead of FDA's current policy of misrepresenting health risks, harassing e-cigarette vendors, and blocking shipments into the US), e-cigarettes will remain legally accessible and affordable for many years to come.

The folks at the FDA simply aren't aware of what is really going with e-cigarettes, as the agency simply deferred to several abstinence-only insiders when develping its counterproduct policies and public statements on e-cigarettes

Now is the time for e-cigarette users to tell the FDA the truth about e-cigarettes, and to keep them legally accessible and affordable to users and to smokers who want to reduce their health risks.

The FDA also will take comments by e-cigarette users more seriously if they also suggest some reasonable and responsible regulations for e-cigarettes. If you don't support some the regulatory alternatives I've suggested, simply don't encourage the FDA to adopt those polices.

But it isn't helpful to post notes on this forum calling the FDA Nazis or claiming that its a waste of time to send the FDA comments. That is totally counterproductive.

 

[SusanB]

ok done mine is posted