Conversation with my local "smokingeverywhere" guy.

[benniesam]

So, I had to get some shopping done the other day. I went to the dreaded mall. I always get a kick out of walking past the "smokingeverywhere" kiosk. Seeing those guys sucker people into buying a extremely marked up product makes me a little sad though.
So, I stoped just because I was curious about their prices and if they sell bottles of liquid yet, which they do... By the way the 20 ml bottle is about $90!8-o They guy at working there saw the shock on my face when he said the price and heard me quickly copy him and say "$90?" but I used a differnt tone of voice, one of shock and dismay.
I told him that they are extremely overpriced, and i showed him a few websites and he was then shocked! He saw the "Screwdriver" from TW and said "i have to buy one of those!" He was a nice guy and I let him try some of my liquid and he was very suprised and actually choked on the vapor! haha. We had a good chat and i realized, This guy shouldnt be the brunt of my hatred of Smokingeverywhere. He had no idea how overpriced his things are, after all... he just works there. I told him we should buy a kiosk in the mall and sell Good e cigarette products and put smoking everywhere out of business. he thought it was a good idea.

 

[butchrobotpope]

I avoid the malls at all costs, on general principle, but I've been curious about these kiosks as well (prices, etc.). Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy anything from them.

So I'm glad you stopped by and posted this. It is hilarious that he was so uninformed about it.

 

[butchrobotpope]

Holy ...., man. I just did the math on that. $90 for 20ml?! That's $4.50 per ml! WTF?! That's ten times - TEN TIMES - what you oughtta be paying for juice. Wow. No wonder they can afford a kiosk rent.

 

[tims]

The price is not the problem, people have the right to make a profit, even though many vapors think they should get it a tiny bit above china's prices.

The problem as I see it is the stuff they sell is junk, people buying it may well be turned off by the high price junk they was sold, at any rate selling in a mall has high cost, and it carry's more risk then normal.

All that being said ya it's high priced junk, but it's the tobacco shops fault, every mall has one why are they not selling better ecigs stuff. They could stop it pretty fast, and make up some of the lost sales, from the much higher taxes on tobacco's.

 

[KonaNeil]

....it's the tobacco shops fault, every mall has one why are they not selling better ecigs stuff. They could stop it pretty fast, and make up some of the lost sales, from the much higher taxes on tobacco's.

One has to care enough to seek out the knowledge of what is available and reasonably bright to figure out which way is up. The guys selling the stuff just don't care enough to know.

 

[yano_jl]

Well done, Ben. Now that you have "educated" that salesman, we'll see if he continues ripping people off. Ignorance is no longer a viable excuse.

 

[JKBonin]

Just an FYI...

I talked to the smoke shop in the local mall. This mall has a SE kiosk as well. He said they wanted to start carrying them, but the mall signed a contract with the SE vendor giving him exclusive rights to sell within the mall. Meaning no one else can have ANY PV/E-NI product while his contract is in force.

I'd say SE lawyers are pretty good. Only if the SE guy chooses not to renew his lease at the end of this month can anyone else begin to carry them.

Here's hoping he's had a lousy January!

 

[benniesam]

The price is not the problem, people have the right to make a profit, even though many vapors think they should get it a tiny bit above china's prices.

The problem as I see it is the stuff they sell is junk, people buying it may well be turned off by the high price junk they was sold, at any rate selling in a mall has high cost, and it carry's more risk then normal.

All that being said ya it's high priced junk, but it's the tobacco shops fault, every mall has one why are they not selling better ecigs stuff. They could stop it pretty fast, and make up some of the lost sales, from the much higher taxes on tobacco's.

ohh i agree that they have the right to make a profit. Totally! But i just find it unfortunate that the prices are that jacked up. I think the people that really love everything e cigarette would be happy to sell at a better price. and i think at a lower price they would sell more of those peices of junk.
I think i would be fun to sell to the general public, Or at least have a local shop that is excited about e cigarettes and loves to chat about them with costomers without trying to sell one brand for too much money. I dont know, i guess i just like the relationship part of buying tobacco like products, whether it be buying cigarettes at the local gas station everyday and being given your brand of smokes right when you walk in the door. or chating with your local tobaconist at the cigar of pipe store. i must admit i miss that.

 

[tims]

Yes tobacco shops would have tons of different flavors to try I'm sure, the shops at the malls around here, have a smoke room people use a lot even that is nice.

I asked about the pipe tobacco before getting any, the guy told me yes it's the same tobacco, they changed it to work for roll our own. And it was only it said pipe tobacco, and had a tiny bit dark put in with it.

 

[fsu1dolfan]

You know it's funny. I admit i try to avoid them too when i am at the mall and the prices piss me off as well...But this is the same company using their big bada$$ lawyers to help get e-cigs through this country!! So while we may not care for their overpriced products...I am now a huge fan of their company for what they are accomplishing in the e-cig community!

Read up
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ocket-sheet-update-fda-loses-first-round.html

Who cares what price they charge or what they sell....we just go online and buy something else anyway!

 

[MercyPoetic]

This makes me want to find an SE kiosk and talk to the people there...

 

[billo]

Just FYI. A Kiosk in one shopping center near me costs $2000 a month.
$4400 a month over Christmas month. A little tiny booth !

Compare this to overhead in a Web business -- maybe $50 a month.

And you pay for this in the end. And you pay sales tax.

I'll put up with a few days wait.

 

[devonschmoker]

I kind of miss having SE guys to screw with. They got kicked out of oregon. I hate them but they were fun to mess with. (It gave me something to do in the mall.)

 

[UpInVapor]

I talk with my local SE guy on a regular basis, and have even talked to some of his customers for him. I always tell them that I started with a similar model (SS Choice No. 7) and quit smoking on the spot. Once I knew that this was for me, I did the research and picked up other equipment.
The SE guy doesn't really mind. His opinion is that some will stick with it and buy from him. Some will go to the web, and some will quit. They buy from him initially and that makes him happy. I get to talk to people and try and get them to stop smoking, and let them know that there are alternatives at the same time! Works for me.

btw. The local SE guy now uses a TW 510 when not at work!

 

[KonaNeil]

Does anyone have a JPG of a Smoking Everywhere or similar kiosk? As an old retailer, I'm curious what they look like.

Living on an out island in Hawaii, we don't even have malls let alone kiosks. I hoped to see one when I was in Vegas last week but there was nothing like it in the huge mall near my hotel.

 

[ShayDwight]

Does anyone have a JPG of a Smoking Everywhere or similar kiosk? As an old retailer, I'm curious what they look like.

Living on an out island in Hawaii, we don't even have malls let alone kiosks. I hoped to see one when I was in Vegas last week but there was nothing like it in the huge mall near my hotel.

Google Image search: Smoking Everywhere Kiosk

 

[Beer Man]

Business must be slow. He's playing Solitaire. hahaha

 

[catlvr]

Ya and check out those cheeks! lol Must take alot of sucking to get a measly hit! lol

 

[DaBrat]

Ya and check out those cheeks! lol Must take alot of sucking to get a measly hit! lol

Its the big rope veins sticking out in the neck that are freaking me out!!!

 

[KonaNeil]

Thanks Shay. Should'a realized I could google it.

Yes, his face and neck do look strange. Maybe the poor guy is a burn victim?