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I like to chain vape, but that causes the issue of heat build up in the tank, which discolors the juice and seems to damage the taste of the remaining juice in the tank. SO the search begins to find a way or method to keep everything but the atomizer cool. I tried a SS wick in my Viva nova and genesis which given great taste until the SS wicked the heat into the tank. This is a perplexing problem for me. How to get great wicking without transferring wick heat into the tank. This is also the problem I am anticipating with the pyrex wick mod, which is why I havent tried it. I am not interested in dripping, too much work when I just want to relax with a good vape. Any suggestions?
 

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I like to chain vape, but that causes the issue of heat build up in the tank, which discolors the juice and seems to damage the taste of the remaining juice in the tank. SO the search begins to find a way or method to keep everything but the atomizer cool. I tried a SS wick in my Viva nova and genesis which given great taste until the SS wicked the heat into the tank. This is a perplexing problem for me. How to get great wicking without transferring wick heat into the tank. This is also the problem I am anticipating with the pyrex wick mod, which is why I havent tried it. I am not interested in dripping, too much work when I just want to relax with a good vape. Any suggestions?

Switch to Cartomizers..... they're nothing like they 'used' to be and if you get them from the 'right' Vendors you'll be quite pleased with the performance..... which will result in your desired goal of just 'relaxing' with a good vape ;)
 

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@ been there, I dont think it is carbon wash back as you suggest. The tank gets hot. I think this is caused by the atomizer being mounted on the center metal post which passes atomizer heat to the tank contents. The juice acts as coolant for the atomizer housing, which transfers the heat into the juice.

@blondeambition3 Since the center post or juice feed tube is much smaller on the 510T, it does improve taste over the viva. Unfortunately there is still a heat buildup in the small cartotank. It also has feed issues when vaped hard. Primer puffs make me feel slighted. LOL

Perhaps something as simple as an thermal insulating sleeve over the center post in the tank and separate atty chamber from tank. Just need to figure out how to remove excess splatter and condensate from atty chamber. Rambling here but feel free to make suggestions or condemnations.
 

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Switch to Cartomizers..... they're nothing like they 'used' to be and if you get them from the 'right' Vendors you'll be quite pleased with the performance..... which will result in your desired goal of just 'relaxing' with a good vape ;)

Every cart I took apart after a few days of use looked like this. Made me wonder if this was any better than analogs. Main reason I went to SS genesis and Donut dripping. Of course if you don't take the carts apart you don't see this and all is a relaxing vape.
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I don't think the heating of the tank is doing it either. Through vaping we have a sludgy gunk at the coil from impurities of juice being cooked/carmelized/what have you, and a fresh supply of liquid that acts as a solvent to this sludge, breaking it down where it can seep back into the tank via gravity.

On a tank on top build with the tank kept mostly upright (ie Gtank) this doesn't happen, but the heat is still present and rises + surrounds it.

SS mesh does not transfer heat very well, when oxidizing you can hold the wick with fingers quite close to a glowing orange section, this not the case with a solid copper wire.

If the top of the tank is metal (not always the case: stewalin) this acts as a heatsink dispersing the heat before reaching the liquid.

IMO, it isn't the heat, it is the liquid itself.
 

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I don't think the heating of the tank is doing it either. Through vaping we have a sludgy gunk at the coil from impurities of juice being cooked/carmelized/what have you, and a fresh supply of liquid that acts as a solvent to this sludge, breaking it down where it can seep back into the tank via gravity.

On a tank on top build with the tank kept mostly upright (ie Gtank) this doesn't happen, but the heat is still present and rises + surrounds it.

SS mesh does not transfer heat very well, when oxidizing you can hold the wick with fingers quite close to a glowing orange section, this not the case with a solid copper wire.

If the top of the tank is metal (not always the case: stewalin) this acts as a heatsink dispersing the heat before reaching the liquid.

IMO, it isn't the heat, it is the liquid itself.

While I don't disagree w/ you, I think there are multiple factors contributing to the darkening. I can certainly see the 'sludge' travel down and swirl in the tank sometimes.

We had a lengthy discussion on another forum and decided heat was the most contributing factor. One member had a top fed atty and did the jack frost method and still got darkening. I find if I don't have a short and don't chain vape, my juice remains relatively clear.
 

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I just noticed my bottom line sounds like juice tanning LOL. Slightly better: impurities in the liquid itself being cooked. :)

The jack frost is getting carbon all over the wick and then sticking it in the tank though, something raidy once said would contaminate the juice. Also I agree with the light colored juices staying light, up until there is some gunk to be dissolved back into the tank. The worst offenders are the dark juices or the reds, heavily flavored or coffee, cakes and spicy flavors. My fruit flavors and light yellow juices stay fresher in the tank till the gunk shows up, which also takes much longer.
 
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