A couple weekends ago my street was filled with cops after someone dropped dead of a heart attack on the sidewalk. Everyone was outside watching paramedics trying to revive him including myself. I was vaping away and not a single cop paid any attention.
Cops mistaking ecigs for Other Stuff
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I have been pulled over for a traffic violation and had all of my juices tested.
South Florida...
Around here its very common for "Other" mixtures than you can buy at the vape shop.
Funny thing was i was sitting at the back of my car vaping while we tested them.... LMAO!!!
The cop was very interested in my Melon Boba LMAO!!!
South Florida...
Around here its very common for "Other" mixtures than you can buy at the vape shop.
Funny thing was i was sitting at the back of my car vaping while we tested them.... LMAO!!!
The cop was very interested in my Melon Boba LMAO!!!
It's not about having nothing to hide It's about your rights as a free american citizen in case you haven't noticed we americans are losing more and more of our god given rights every day. Rights that our forefathers fought and died for. Sure it's easier to go the five minute route but what you are essentially saying is yes officer it's OK for you to stomp all over my rights as a citizen.
Don't get me wrong I have the highest respect for our law enforcement officers who risk they're lives everyday just to keep us safe but just like in every other large group their are a few bad apples that have a chip on they're shoulder and something to prove which brings a potential for abuse. Don't give them an inch because they may take a mile.
Oh c'mon. That is no reason to consent to a search, ever.
When they are asking 9 times out of 10 its cause they can't get a warrant. Even if they can, I wouldn't consent to it. Let them go get one. When I am pulled over, the conversation happens through a 1" opening in my window. Conversation with the LEO is extremely limited.
If they ask, "is this you, Mr. XXXX"
I say, "yes".
If they ask, "Is this your vehicle/registration/etc."
I say, "yes"
If they ask, "you know why I pulled you over?" or "Know how fast you were going?"
I say, "Officer, I am not answering any questions"
You give them that answer a couple of times, and they get the picture.
If they ask, "You had anything to drink?" is about the only exception.
I say, "no"
If they follow up, I respond, "Asked and answered, officer. I am not answering any more questions"
Nothing you say can help you in court. Nothing they say can help you in court. Only bad things can happen by agreeing to talk to them. Now I am not saying never to communicate with the police, but I am saying if you are involved in a criminal or traffic matter, do not do it.
Watch the video and argue with this logic. It is long (48 mins), but the second half of it is a cop agreeing with the attorney.
I agree with you regarding the percent of the vaping community using other stuf. However, I think you would be surprise at the real numbers. Most of those that do are not part of the vape community. They have found a way to mock law enforcement by mimicking a vaper. Its unfortunate but true and I can understand why some officers are compelled to stop people that they think may be laughing in their face while vaping away on "other stuff".
I was not always the law abiding citizen I am today ...;-) Back in the day, I gained minimal amount of experience with delivery devices. From that experience I can say that your last statement is just wrong. It would be cheap and easy and that is what poses the dilemma for law enforcement. With a few exceptions, it's not that they are cumming down on vapers, they just want to make sure you ARE a Vaper... ;-)~
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I had an issue last fall with a cop, one of my neighbors/friends had an issue, fire rescue, ambulance and cops were here. He and I had exchanged words already as he seemed to delegate himself to crowed control, there were 6 of use in the street making sure all was well.
Anyway he finally saw my Provari with a tank as I took a vape. Immeatiatly draws his gun and asks "What is that!" I tell him to put the gun away it's an electronic cig. "Well I've never seen one like that!" I replied I was shocked and there were probably a number of other things he hasn't seen as well and went on talking to the other neighbors.
I've got no use for bullies with a badge and gun!
Anyway he finally saw my Provari with a tank as I took a vape. Immeatiatly draws his gun and asks "What is that!" I tell him to put the gun away it's an electronic cig. "Well I've never seen one like that!" I replied I was shocked and there were probably a number of other things he hasn't seen as well and went on talking to the other neighbors.
I've got no use for bullies with a badge and gun!
Well in my city the cops have a very "macho man" attitude like last month I pull in this parking lot (where all my friends hangout before we pick DDs lol) i was there maybe two minuets total.. cop pulls in then two more they ask for mine and three other guys licenses and reg. I ask why they refused to tell me I go get it and bring it anyway they make us pick up trash in the parking lot (which wasnt ours) while they write our tickets they start handing out careless operation tickets their reasons: one guy had all his doors open they said some one could have hit one of them two the other two guys had people standing in the back of their truck (not while driving) mine reason well I was never informed.. So the next day I made a big stink about it to the marshal which happens to be a friend of my dads he said that those cops wrote 7 careless operation tickets that same night... He told me he'd handle it but he wanted me to go speak to the cop that wrote my ticket ask what i did then for his dash can record and to tell him what he says..
I tried to pass on this topic, but I really do want to comment. So far I haven't had any questions from anyone regarding my pv (other than those interested in knowing more for their own edification).
HOWEVER, as a truck driver among other professions, I have a real issue with the search issue. Apparently DOT and state troopers are under the impression they can search my truck at any time because it is a commercial motor vehicle. Many have said a driver can refuse until a warrant is in hand, but many have spent a night in jail for pushing the issue. I have heard so many things about this and have no idea what is right. I am not interested in being searched and I have gently (and not so gently) resisted the intrusion. If it is border patrol, fine, take a peak in the sleeper if need be. If it is DOT, again, feel free to take a peak. "Peak" means you stand on the step, not inside my truck. My sister ran with a pit bull as her co driver for many years and was never searched. Wonder why?
However, if you think my PV contains "other stuff", lets just head to the nearest ER and have a drug test done (at their cost by the way, I already know the results, don't need the test for myself). Clean and sober for almost 30 years and I will not be intimidated by their ignorance regarding my vaping pleasure. I carry the juices I am using for the day with me wherever I go and they can see, read and even taste my bottles if they are interested but I don't feel it necessary to agree to a search. I do have a few rights left in Obamaland. Don't I? And no, it does not matter that I have nothing to hide. It matters that I do have privacy and don't want invasions into that privacy.
HOWEVER, as a truck driver among other professions, I have a real issue with the search issue. Apparently DOT and state troopers are under the impression they can search my truck at any time because it is a commercial motor vehicle. Many have said a driver can refuse until a warrant is in hand, but many have spent a night in jail for pushing the issue. I have heard so many things about this and have no idea what is right. I am not interested in being searched and I have gently (and not so gently) resisted the intrusion. If it is border patrol, fine, take a peak in the sleeper if need be. If it is DOT, again, feel free to take a peak. "Peak" means you stand on the step, not inside my truck. My sister ran with a pit bull as her co driver for many years and was never searched. Wonder why?
However, if you think my PV contains "other stuff", lets just head to the nearest ER and have a drug test done (at their cost by the way, I already know the results, don't need the test for myself). Clean and sober for almost 30 years and I will not be intimidated by their ignorance regarding my vaping pleasure. I carry the juices I am using for the day with me wherever I go and they can see, read and even taste my bottles if they are interested but I don't feel it necessary to agree to a search. I do have a few rights left in Obamaland. Don't I? And no, it does not matter that I have nothing to hide. It matters that I do have privacy and don't want invasions into that privacy.
Hey! I am now a full member!!! I just noticed. Woohoo! I have also spent way too much money on the cool things I found reviewed on this forum. I think I better settle down and get some work done!
See previous post, please. I totally disagree. The innocent have more reason to worry about the intrusion.
I get the strangest looks when vaping at work outside I swear people think I am smoking something.....
Freakin 6 cops stopped me thinking I was sniffing a marker. Lol, i was like ... is a marker thinking they meant some new type of drug, they literally meant a damn marker. I was astonished. I reached for my PV, and all of a sudden their hands were on their guns. I showed it to them and explained it and they were like okay your free to go.
For all of you that are claiming fake, etc. understand the herbal markets are growing just as ours is. Don't think for one second that they aren't using the same design technologies we use.
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First nicotine is a drug, Second we came out with PV's first, they were just not as small and could only do dry herb. We no longer mod any ecigs... as there are plenty of products out there that do it already. Thermovape Cera, Atmos, Gpen, Vaped, Cloud pen, Solo, Pax...etc. And why would I want to SMOKE anything... vaping is much healthier and does not smell. I live in cali so its legal. Not my fault your generation let all this crap happen to the world! Have you heard of F..Kcombustion.com
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I know you came out with PV's first, i never disputed that. You however did not have tons of spotlight on you, and werent fighting a war against Big Tobacco, Religious wing activists, Mothers against Everything, The FDA, and i dont even know who else.
If we lose this "war" we are condemning millions of people to the alternative, which for most is not quitting, it is going back to smoking.
We have a responsibility to change the ways we use things and grow with the times.
All I am asking is that you no longer stealth vape herb in the middle of a mall.
As a matter of fact why is this thread not deleted yet, i can swear this is against the rules of the forum as it gives ammunition to our opponents.
That is true but your telling us to not ruin it for you like we hoped on your band waggon, when we've been vaping. But they will have to pry my PV from my cold dead hands lmao. But I feel we have the right to vape what ever we want. We need to grow with the times... Were all fighting the corporate government together. Themovape is trying to get the CERA FDA approved. But there also talking about vaping different essential oils as well for health benefits. I dont know the rules. Can you explain?
Well said! I just dont get how for a minute the government could get away with this. Im only 26 so I havent seen the government regulate to many things. How will they be able to stop the sale of these devices? The herbal market I think just relabels there products for something else. Wont ecigs just do the same?
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