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Your mom said not to say...
Sounds like these are pretty isolated incidents to me and hard to say if they weren't pre-existing conditions that were made worse or triggered with by vaping causing the dryness for you. I would try not to vape as much if it's causing problems. I have not had any issues like that since I stopped smoking and went to vaping full time but everyone is different, it could even be allergic reactions to PG.

The only thing I have seen different for me is if I touch my face while filling carts or with juice on my hands it can make it itch but as a rule I try not to do that or wear gloves when doing my cart fills.
 

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Hmmm ...an interesting point is that he worked in Pest control for eleven years. I would be wondering about all the contact with deadly chemicals.


lol, lol lol ............... I keep coming back here just for the laughs. If you read thread, and retain what you read you might see that the blood was caused from sinus drying out due to vaping. The blood ran down into my lungs overnight and low and behold I coughed it out when i woke up. As I stated earlier having the heat on in the house during the winter does the same thing. I am not only still vaping, but using a laser mod that puts out 2x the vaper as my npro or 901. But you may be right LOL working in pest control 7 years ago may have dried my sinuses out , ( only when I vaped, 3x in a row with several days of smoking analogs in between with no blood) , anything but vaping since it doesnt bother you it must not bother anyone. or Or maybe it was that time 25 years ago when, my muffler leaked into my ford pinto...... hmmmm, so many years so many things that could have caused this besides what actually did.

I love vaping I have 2 complete npros, 4 complete 901s, and a laser mod that uses my 901 attys. I did not shut the heater off and die of exposure , in the winter, becasue it dried out my sinuses, and I am not going to quit vaping, and go back to analogs because vaping dried me out a little either.

I did post the post about going to the dr. , When I was mad. I said that earlier. My feelings were not hurt I was mad.
 

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Hi I am new to this forum and vaping I have been vaping for a week now I have a sore throat I am in excellent health and never coughed due to smoking for twenty years I want to quit smoking only for the cost of cigarettes!! never felt bad at all smoking cigarettes never coughed in the morning or anything!! I bought my e cig at best ecigs.com I got marlboro super high 36mg and cut it 50/50 with wiltons glycerine felt great for four days now I have a sore throat and just coughed up a huge ball of flem with blood in it??? Iread about the other guy with sinus problems but I have had no existing conditions do you think it is from quitting cold turkey? I do not drink a lot of fluids. I am just looking for answers from the experts in this forum and will not bite your heads off like schadoe is anybody else experiencing the same problems?? can't afford to go to the doctor!! just want to know if anybody else has this problem and have fixed it by drinking fluids. thank you harvest38 want to make this work!!!
 

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lol, lol lol ............... I keep coming back here just for the laughs. If you read thread, and retain what you read you might see that the blood was caused from sinus drying out due to vaping. The blood ran down into my lungs overnight and low and behold I coughed it out when i woke up. As I stated earlier having the heat on in the house during the winter does the same thing. I am not only still vaping, but using a laser mod that puts out 2x the vaper as my npro or 901. But you may be right LOL working in pest control 7 years ago may have dried my sinuses out , ( only when I vaped, 3x in a row with several days of smoking analogs in between with no blood) , anything but vaping since it doesnt bother you it must not bother anyone. or Or maybe it was that time 25 years ago when, my muffler leaked into my ford pinto...... hmmmm, so many years so many things that could have caused this besides what actually did.

I love vaping I have 2 complete npros, 4 complete 901s, and a laser mod that uses my 901 attys. I did not shut the heater off and die of exposure , in the winter, becasue it dried out my sinuses, and I am not going to quit vaping, and go back to analogs because vaping dried me out a little either.

I did post the post about going to the dr. , When I was mad. I said that earlier. My feelings were not hurt I was mad.

You know when I joined this forum, this thread was one of the first that I read. It concerned me, since I hadn't even tried vaping yet. A lot of people like me are looking for a healthier alternative. Posts like these tend to worry people about any possible side effects. Especially those of us who have serious lung diseases. Sorry schadoe, I always try to say positive things, but don't you think this topic is getting a bit old. I have read about your sinuses countless times. Yet you insist on vaping. Can we please change the subject? Have you seen your doctor yet? Please do if you haven't. And Please get a humidifier. I use Inhalers and the vaping doesn't dry my throat any where near as much as those. Since I started vaping my breathing has improved significantly. Even after only one day.
 

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Hi I am new to this forum and vaping I have been vaping for a week now I have a sore throat I am in excellent health and never coughed due to smoking for twenty years I want to quit smoking only for the cost of cigarettes!! never felt bad at all smoking cigarettes never coughed in the morning or anything!! I bought my e cig at best ecigs.com I got marlboro super high 36mg and cut it 50/50 with wiltons glycerine felt great for four days now I have a sore throat and just coughed up a huge ball of flem with blood in it??? Iread about the other guy with sinus problems but I have had no existing conditions do you think it is from quitting cold turkey? I do not drink a lot of fluids. I am just looking for answers from the experts in this forum and will not bite your heads off like schadoe is anybody else experiencing the same problems?? can't afford to go to the doctor!! just want to know if anybody else has this problem and have fixed it by drinking fluids. thank you harvest38 want to make this work!!!

Hi Harvest. I've read most of the posts that have to do with health issues. I don't remember reading any that have the same problem as yours. We are not doctors, so please don't expect us to know all about the health issues. We just post what we experience. Some do have dry throats and some are sensitive to the PG. It is possible you might be one of those who is sensitive. Pg can be an irritant. Too bad you can't afford to see your doctor, as that would be the best thing. I would suggest you get some VG and see how that works for you. Some people can't use the PG and have successfully switched to VG. In case you don't know, VG is Vegetable Glycerin. Best wishes.
 

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I SUGGEST ANY NEW VAPORERS DRINK PLENTY OF WATER AND EXPECT TO COUGH UP GIANT BALLS OF PHLEM AND HACK A LIL DURING THE FIRST MONTH. THIS IS NORMAL SMOKING CESSATION SYMPTOMS. ALL THE GUNK BUILD UP FINALLY HAS A CHANCE TO FILTER OUT, CAUSING MOST SYMPTOMS. THE SORE THROAT IS BC UR THROAT IS USED TO SMOKE, NOT A WARM MIST. ANY CHANGES WILL RESULT IN A SORE THROAT BUT WILL NOT LAST LONG. YOUR BODY WILL START THANKING YOU FOR NOT SMOKING ABOUT A WEEK AFTER YOU QUIT AND THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO UR BODY WILL RID ITSELF OF ALL THE GUNK. THEN, ITS ALL SMOOTH SAILING...ERR..VAPING FROM THERE...(((DEEP BREATH IN---AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!))) FRESH AIR REALLY IS NICE, HUH?

Im proud of every single one of us for taking the plunge and doing "the undoable"...This is a journey we'll live to tell about...! ;)
 

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I am going to respond once again to this thread regarding my experiences.
I am well over 100 days into vaping. I suffered from a serious cough my first two weeks that led to a drying of my throat and slight hints of blood. I have no health insurance but am convinced these things can't be bad for you. The fears of bleeding have subsided as i no longer experience the symptoms noted in my earlier post. i attribute the issue to the drying of my throat due to a lack of liquid and a post nasal type drip combination that was further aggravated by the horrendous coughing (except for the tase and slight signs of blood, all are common symptoms of quitting cigarettes without the use of a e-cig).

I occasionally get a bit of dry throat from lack of drinking fluids and keeping my throat moisturized and also experience a build up of phlegm from time to time as well. I chalk that up to my body trying to moisturize itself and it goes away after a few days once i get back into the routine of religously drinking fluids.

I use a PG based liquid cut 30% with Vegetable Glycerin and have also use a pure VG based liquid. Neither made much of a difference in the dry throat issues. i guess it is just because i vape like a mad fiend.

Hope this info. helps. I had similar concerns at first and after some revisions to my vaping practices most of them have subsided.
 

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...i guess it is just because i vape like a mad fiend.

Hope this info. helps. I had similar concerns at first and after some revisions to my vaping practices most of them have subsided.

I vaped like a fiend as well at first. Partly because it was a new toy and partly because it takes many more puffs to absorb the same amount of nicotine as a cigarette. So my mild sore throat kept getting worse. Similar to TheUltimateG, I reviewed my vaping practices as well and drank water more frequently... I increased the nicotine amount and restricted use of vaping as if it were a cigarette, thus vaping only every 2 hours for about 15 minutes. The sore throat went away shortly after.

While I never had any bloody phlem, I can say that you will go through a coughing bout after you quite. I never smoked more than a pack a day (usually less) so I suspect a heavier smoker will experience a greater amount of coughing as the lungs regenerate the cilia (tiny hairs): Why do we cough so much after we quit smoking?

Good luck!
 

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Hi Harvest. I've read most of the posts that have to do with health issues. I don't remember reading any that have the same problem as yours. We are not doctors, so please don't expect us to know all about the health issues. We just post what we experience. Some do have dry throats and some are sensitive to the PG. It is possible you might be one of those who is sensitive. Pg can be an irritant. Too bad you can't afford to see your doctor, as that would be the best thing. I would suggest you get some VG and see how that works for you. Some people can't use the PG and have successfully switched to VG. In case you don't know, VG is Vegetable Glycerin. Best wishes.
I know your not doctors I was just wondering if any of you long term forum people have read more posts than me. and wanted to know if you guys know of any other posts that have the same effects as me. I do not need to go to a doctor because it started four days after vaping!! just wondering if there was a fix that you guys know of. doctors don't know nothing about vaping!! so I want to take your advice!! is wiltons glycerine the same as vg? can I buy eliquid made out of vg? where can I get vg? I need the nicotine!!! if I made my own mix where would I get the nicotine. is all eliquid made with pg? I'm a newbie but I will take you advice!!
 

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I know your not doctors I was just wondering if any of you long term forum people have read more posts than me. and wanted to know if you guys know of any other posts that have the same effects as me. I do not need to go to a doctor because it started four days after vaping!! just wondering if there was a fix that you guys know of. doctors don't know nothing about vaping!! so I want to take your advice!! is wiltons glycerine the same as vg? can I buy eliquid made out of vg? where can I get vg? I need the nicotine!!! if I made my own mix where would I get the nicotine. is all eliquid made with pg? I'm a newbie but I will take you advice!!



Hi harvest. Since no one else has responded to your post, I'm assuming that no one has the same symptoms as you do. You're so right about doctors, not knowing anything about vaping. I'm pretty new at this too, but I have done a lot of research. I've heard about Wiltons glycerin, but don't know anything about it. I have found that most liquids are PG based. Some have a mixture of about 80% PG and 20% VG or 90% PG and 10% VG. Most of the ones I've seen on websites are PG only.

I want to make my own liquids, but I haven't been able to find any liquid nicotine yet. So it looks like I'm going to have to go with either the PG or VG with the nicotine in it or with premixed juices. Most juices are PG based. So far I have only found one place that sells the liquid VG with nicotine. It's available at East Mall in China. They have both PG and VG with nicotine. If you want some, it's a good time to buy it as they are on sale right now. Keep in mind however, that if you buy from East Mall, you have to spend a minimum of $50. Shipping and handling is $15. I would like to get some myself, but since I'm in Canada, I worry about it getting confiscated by customs. I know someone on the Canadian forum who ordered from them and I'm waiting to see if they get the order or not. If he gets the order, I will order some. Here is the link for East Mall.

30ml (1x30ml) - 36/60mg No Flavor PG/VG Mixing e-Liquid - East Mall e-Liquids - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd
 
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My problem only seemed a one time thing!!! I have no sore throat no more blood. seamed to be a quitting smoking thing. breathing better after a week no dirty cigarettes around no ashtrays. no more running to the store for smokes my e cigg paid itself off after a week going to buy another one for my wife and my friends want one now. all positive!!!!!
 

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@Katin

You should really do research before you start making medical claims (PG coats your lungs etc..). Your issues MAY be associated with PG. They MAY be associated with the fact you have stopped smoking. Chest pains are a symptom of this last statement. Your lungs hurt when they heal. Only a medical doctor can diagnose this and state with a level of certainty if it is in fact PG or VG. NOT YOU.

In any case I leave you with this. This is the abstract from a peer reviewed medial journal. This is not from wiki_wrong_sometimes. The authors of the paper conducted this study in the forties. They were looking for a substance that could disinfect the air. PG was found to cause the least issues. A small number of people are still irritated by it. They were thinking about pumping this stuff into the air within theaters and large business for reasons stated below

Part of their reson for this study was the flu outbreak in 1940.

All of this information is widely available in new sources and peer reviewed journals.

In any case if ANYONE has issues, consult a doctor. Don't listen to people on these boards. We are all wrong, and even a doctor can not diagnose you over the internet. He/She can only speculate.
 

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So quit posting and go join the class action suit!

You sound like an ex smoker Nazi who has joined the moral class of anti smoking advocates.

What do I know? I am not a supplier, I have been vaping for about four weeks now. I can now breathe, I don't have a smoker's cough, and I have noticed a remarkable difference in my ability to speak. In my profession I speak for long periods of time. So.. Vaping or Smoking! I'll take vaping any day. Oh, and I am also an asthmatic! No asthma attacks since switching to vaping. Good Lord! If I was coughing up blood, I would be in a Dr's office ASAP, and not spending time posting inflammatory remarks on an e-cig forum! You sure seem like an anti e-cig advocate to me.

Again, truly sick people don't spend time asking for help on the internet. They get their butts to a Dr!
 

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This troll is hijacking more than one thread-I say if we igore them, they may go away bc its not fun arguing with urself,lol..............This exerpt is copy and pasted verbatim in a few threads....

The funniest part is they self treat vaping symptoms with a...vaporizer. LOL! Healing the problem with the ingrediants that "caused" the problem? Nice try troll-ette! ;)
 
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