Could I blow my face off?

[tmel]

Hi,

I've been vaping for 5ish years now and have been using a Reo Grand and many BF RDA's for the past 3 years. I know about battery safety, I think I know just about everything there is to know.

I recently purchased a SMPL Clone which is a hybrid and makes direct positive contact with my Sony VTC5 batteries and I stay well within my batteries amp limit. Every time I vape it, I think it could blow on me for some reason, I know my build is solid, I don't do anything fancy, just dual 3mm 6 wrap coils ranging from twisted 28 to 24G, sometimes RxW and sometimes cotton and I use deoxit gold on my batteries/intellicharger.

All of that being said, what is my risk.....Reo vs SMPL? The Reo has a gold plated beryllium copper spring that will collapse the second a short occurs and its a good as gold to me. (easy fix, love my Reo) The SMPL has bottom vent holes and the C type clip for the button, I am sure it is a spring and I would assume it collapses the same. Perhaps the direct battery contact adds additional risk?

 

[ElectriSean]

I don't know if the SMPL has a 'hot spring' but the main danger of the hybrid style top is if the positive pin on your atty doesn't protrude enough, causing a dead short. As long as you are aware of this and don't try to use something like a kanger subtank with it, you should be fine using the same safety measures you use with the Reo.

 

[Skunk!]

Make sure that the center pin sticks out well past the outside of the RDA. If both were to make contact it will cause a dead short.

 

[LimJaheyyy]

Maybe look into a regulated mod instead to calm your nerves

 

[Bunnykiller]

trust your gut feelings.... ditch the Smpl...

 

[Froth]

Because of all of the reports of careless people using the SMPL and having problems I feel that is causing you to be paranoid, so long as you understand how a direct to battery mod works and you make sure the positive pole protrudes at very least 1mm from the end of the threading you shouldn't have any issue whatsoever. Currently I own four SMPL's and I've had my two authentics for over a year now and I use them both every day. Not one incident to speak of in any way has befallen me with the SMPL which I contribute to entirely understanding the device. So long as you follow a few key steps you'll never run in to an issue either, make sure the atomizer positive protrudes, the battery wrap is in factory condition and just snug the battery down lightly.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Just don't ever try to stick a tank on top of that... Make sure the negative is nowhere near the top of the battery, and pay attention to your batteries to make sure they don't ever dent in from over-tightening...

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I'm watching the cartoon channel and Elmer Fudd just blew his head off.

It is good to stay safe.

 

[KentA]

Just don't ever try to stick a tank on top of that...

Why would a tank be exceptionally dangerous?

 

[Boden]

I have a general rule for doing dangerous things. If you know all the rules but still hesitate don't do it.

 

[Boden]

Why would a tank be exceptionally dangerous?

Bad factory coil's, 510 positive generally doesn't stick out far enough.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Why would a tank be exceptionally dangerous?

not enough clearance between the center pin and the negative on 90% of tanks, most of the venting we've seen recently are because of tanks on hybrids.

Like someone mentioned above you should have at least 1mm clearance to keep it safe.

 

[tj99959]

Why would a tank be exceptionally dangerous?

Because the center pin can be pushed in on most clearo/sub tanks. This would allow the negative side of the connector to touch the top of the battery. = BOOM

Here's the thing with hybrid top cap mods like the SMPL; when I see you using one, I have no idea if you know how to use one ... or not. So PLEASE stay a good distance away from me!

personal opinion of course:
I would not allow a SMPL to be brought into my house!

 

[93gc40]

If you have a good battery, a correctly functioning mod, and a non leaking atty with a build within the limits of your battery. You will be safe.

Bad things happen when people use a badly maintained mod, regulated or NOT, with a badly maintained atty, at power levels beyond that of the battery or device.

Quit listening to the FEAR Mongers. They DO NOT know what is good for you.

 

[KentA]

Ok, so it's back to the pin, not the tank above it, that's the problem, like many rdas.
It makes sense now.

 

[tj99959]

If you have a good battery, a correctly functioning mod, and a non leaking atty with a build within the limits of your battery. You will be safe.

Bad things happen when people use a badly maintained mod, regulated or NOT, with a badly maintained atty, at power levels beyond that of the battery or device.

Quit listening to the FEAR Mongers. They DO NOT know what is good for you.

Thanks for making my point.
You made no mention of what causes that type of mod to fail.
The SMPL does not have a positive pin to keep the negative side of the atty connector away from the battery.
There are far to many toppers out there that have RECESSED center pins to make a hybrid top cap mechanical mod a good choice for most people.

 

[haleysdadda]

Because of all of the reports of careless people using the SMPL and having problems I feel that is causing you to be paranoid, so long as you understand how a direct to battery mod works and you make sure the positive pole protrudes at very least 1mm from the end of the threading you shouldn't have any issue whatsoever. Currently I own four SMPL's and I've had my two authentics for over a year now and I use them both every day. Not one incident to speak of in any way has befallen me with the SMPL which I contribute to entirely understanding the device. So long as you follow a few key steps you'll never run in to an issue either, make sure the atomizer positive protrudes, the battery wrap is in factory condition and just snug the battery down lightly.

Could you please tell me what the advantage is to a mod like the Smpl?

 

[Boden]

If you have a good battery, a correctly functioning mod, and a non leaking atty with a build within the limits of your battery. You will be safe.

Bad things happen when people use a badly maintained mod, regulated or NOT, with a badly maintained atty, at power levels beyond that of the battery or device.

Quit listening to the FEAR Mongers. They DO NOT know what is good for you.

I agree that fear mongering is pointless. Understanding that some designs are more dangerious when they fail than others is just being responsible.

A box mech with a standard 510 connection and magnetic door is safer than a design like the Simple.

 

[tj99959]

Could you please tell me what the advantage is to a mod like the Smpl?

They're designed for cloud competition where every last thousandth of a volt makes a difference. With an atty designed for use on a hybrid top cap they do actually perform well.
The problem is that most folks out there have no idea that there are atties out there that were specifically designed for use on hybrid top cap mods.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Why would a tank be exceptionally dangerous?

If the threaded part (outer) of the 510 comes into contact with the top of the battery it is a dead short. then after you fire the mod and are wondering why you are getting no vapor the battery is rapidly going into meltdown. The case of the battery swells up from heat and seals off the bottom vent holes so the next thing it the top blows off violently in your mouth/face.
The center pin on the atty MUST stick down farther than the threaded outer portion. Also dropping or over tightening can cause the center pin to push up in the threaded portion a bit allowing the threaded portion to come into contact with the top post on the battery. Again dead short and bad things happen.
These issues are why all mods that use the bottom of the atty to contact directly with the top of the battery ARE dangerous and can go into meltdown even if you use an atty with a protruding center pin. And it gets damaged in some way.